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[pmac_tk421]

The fans hate the enidng. The critics love it. I'm totally fine with the ending.

[Notanything]

Pretty bad, glad I get to save myself the trouble now though (and money). Normally spoilers usually don't bother me, but a collection of things leading up to this point have really just torn me away from the game as a whole, so Mass Effect 3 is really the exception. Dreadful.  After two games of building up hype, I really don't think I should have trusted anybody of being capable of making a good resolution.

Modifié par Notanything, 04 mars 2012 - 07:34 .

[Hunter of Legends]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

The fans hate the enidng. The critics love it. I'm totally fine with the ending.

I like the endings

[DaJe]

If the endings are not Disney happy end, into the sunset sort of things I'm fine with it. I just hope that there are sufficient shades of grey that reflect our decisions in the 3 games.

Ending a large trilogy on a too bitter note might be a bad idea though. There is a reason Pete Jackson changed the ending of the LoTR trilogy from the book to not leave the audience with an uncomfortable feeling.

[JaegerBane]

Femlob wrote...

Is it really that bad?

The spoilers group is a melting pot of people with wildly differing opinions: Paragons, Renegades, Paragades, Renegons, Neutrals, pro-Cerberus, anti-Cerberus, pro-BioWare, anti-BioWare - you name it, they're present. Regardless of their differences, all of them are united in their disgust over the endings.

That should really tell you all you need to know.

I think the basic issue I have with it all is I don't really understand why Bioware would have written only endings like the ones described over there. The way its explained appears to completely remove any chance of DLC delivery or interest in further ME media.

Ultimately, I'm going to play it for myself and decide on it there. It seems to be totally incongrous with the MO that Bioware have refined over the years.

[Reorte]

After a bit of mulling pre-order cancelled (it's not as if I had anything other than the standard edition pre-ordered anyway). The spoilers just make it sound as if it's not a goal worth playing towards, no matter how good the journey. If it turns out I'm wrong it'll be easy enough to buy anyway. It's certainly killed any desire to play the game ASAP.

[Frailstrength]

Foxhound2020 wrote...

Put it this way OP: Bioware admitted in a interview that some customers are going to be angry about the ending, so take that as you will.

My only question would be, why make your customers angry?

I think that is less a statement of their intentions and more a statement of fact. I'm relatively new to these forums, but I've played  almost every Bioware game since Neverwinter Nights. I have not seen too many misteps by them in all the time I've been playing their games. In fact, I think they are better at writing plot than any other developer in the world. Part of good writing is that you have to be honest. I don't think it's honest to have a the happy ending that so many people want but shouldn't expect.

Secondly, we also know that the main story was written and finished long before the first game came out. Based on that info, the actual ending has little to do with Mac Walters; how he gets there in the end does. It is a bit humorous that so many people are angry about something they have not experienced for themselves. It's even more ridiculous than the anger over "From Ashes." Wouldn't it be better to wait until after you've beaten it to explode?

[AkiKishi]

aLucidMind wrote...

Frailstrength wrote...

Secondly, we also know that the main story was written and finished long before the first game came out. Based on that info, the actual ending has little to do with Mac Walters; how he gets there in the end does. It is a bit humorous that so many people are angry about something they have not experienced for themselves. It's even more ridiculous than the anger over "From Ashes." Wouldn't it be better to wait until after you've beaten it to explode?

People were raging about John Marston in Red Dead Redemption dying at the end before RDR was released, to the point of even claiming to boycott the game (sound familiar). These same people posted on the forum either Day-1 or Day-2 talking about how they just bought the game and love it so far. Then they beat it and claim how much they loved the ending >_< 

In short, people are stupid. They think they know better when they don't know crap, especially when they've not experienced what they're talking s**t about in the first place.

It's a fixed ending it's not really the same thing.

[AxisEvolve]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

The fans hate the enidng. The critics love it. I'm totally fine with the ending.

To be fair, the ones who got the game early with special treatment from Bioware aren't exactly going to trash the game. It's far too early to tell the overall feel of the critics. I don't really care what they have to say. But I realize some people do.

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 04 mars 2012 - 07:53 .

[Hunter of Legends]

AxisEvolve wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

The fans hate the enidng. The critics love it. I'm totally fine with the ending.

To be fair, the ones who got the game early with special treatment from Bioware aren't exactly going to trash the game. It's far too early to tell the overall feel of the critics. I don't really care what they have to say. But I realize some people do.

So far I'm seeing

Played the game - love it

Haven't played the game - hate it. <_<

[Corvus Metus]

android654 wrote...

The writing in this game is insulting to the base that bought the first two games with anticipation. It's like the Matrix, but with less reason and explanation.

Comments like this bother me.   I know the endings.  Yet I am not bothered by them.  The Mass Effect redeemed Bioware for me, after the awful game that was Neverwinter Nights. 

I do not feel insulted.   I do not feel angry. 

[AxisEvolve]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

So far I'm seeing

Played the game - love it

Haven't played the game - hate it. <_<

Well, I can't argue with that.

But that will all be irrelevant in a couple days.. except for the ones going in with their mind's already made up.

[GracefulChicken]

I am certainly not pleased with what I've read of the leak, but I think the time from the start to the end will be fun. Personally, I think how it turns out. I dont like how it played out in the leaks, though. Still haven't played it obviously, but still looking forward to it very much.

Modifié par GracefulChicken, 04 mars 2012 - 08:10 .

[SyyRaaaN]

John Never Dies wrote...

If you want a good solid ending for the end of a trilogy. Its very good.

If you have dreams of being in relationships with the main characters and you are looking for a Disney film ending...eh.

Im hoping for this. I haven't read any spoilers, so i can't comment on the endings. But from whats hinted the ends seem to be perfect. I mean, it's a dirty war for survival... not some, like you said, Walt Disney bs where i can save even the cute little doggies and rabbits out there and get to snuggle with my princess all life long.

[Sentr0]

AxisEvolve wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

The fans hate the enidng. The critics love it. I'm totally fine with the ending.

To be fair, the ones who got the game early with special treatment from Bioware aren't exactly going to trash the game. It's far too early to tell the overall feel of the critics. I don't really care what they have to say. But I realize some people do.

gameplay is gonna be good, story not so good. Endings will be sad and depressing, all of them. My advice: play it as a nobrainshooter and not as an rpg

Modifié par Sentr0, 04 mars 2012 - 08:17 .

[JaegerBane]

Frailstrength wrote...

Foxhound2020 wrote...

Put it this way OP: Bioware admitted in a interview that some customers are going to be angry about the ending, so take that as you will.

My only question would be, why make your customers angry?

I think that is less a statement of their intentions and more a statement of fact. I'm relatively new to these forums, but I've played  almost every Bioware game since Neverwinter Nights. I have not seen too many misteps by them in all the time I've been playing their games. In fact, I think they are better at writing plot than any other developer in the world. Part of good writing is that you have to be honest. I don't think it's honest to have a the happy ending that so many people want but shouldn't expect.

Up until Dragon Age 2, I'd agree. I think where the problems are springing from are primarily about the need to make things 'bittersweet' as an ending. Its *extremely* hard to make these kind of endings work, and typically they only do work on games that have a storyline that logically leads to such a conclusion. Given that ME is so far largely a story of making the right decisions to achieve your goal, it seems a little weird to take the direction being discussed.

But then again, I don't necessarily dislike some of the endings being hinted at either... I'm just not convinced they work. But again, we don't even know if all these endings are actually the whole lot, or even if they're totally accurate. I've resisted looking too much into it to avoid too much spolierage.

Secondly, we also know that the main story was written and finished long before the first game came out. Based on that info, the actual ending has little to do with Mac Walters; how he gets there in the end does. It is a bit humorous that so many people are angry about something they have not experienced for themselves. It's even more ridiculous than the anger over "From Ashes." Wouldn't it be better to wait until after you've beaten it to explode?

I don't really think anyone is honestly interested in finding someone to blame for stuff going wrong. I think they're more bothered about whether stuff is wrong to begin with, so in that regard whether or not this ending was made in adavnce or not is irrelevant.

[AlanC9]

Sentr0 wrote...

gameplay is gonna be good, story not so good. Endings will be sad and depressing, all of them. My advice: play it as a nobrainshooter and not as an rpg

How does this follow? Are RPGs supposed to have happy endings?

[Il Divo]

AlanC9 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

gameplay is gonna be good, story not so good. Endings will be sad and depressing, all of them. My advice: play it as a nobrainshooter and not as an rpg

How does this follow? Are RPGs supposed to have happy endings?

Come to think of it, alot of RPGs I've loved have had kinda weak endings, KotOR 1 included.

Modifié par Il Divo, 04 mars 2012 - 08:25 .

[camcon2100]

Sentr0 wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

The fans hate the enidng. The critics love it. I'm totally fine with the ending.

To be fair, the ones who got the game early with special treatment from Bioware aren't exactly going to trash the game. It's far too early to tell the overall feel of the critics. I don't really care what they have to say. But I realize some people do.

gameplay is gonna be good, story not so good. Endings will be sad and depressing, all of them. My advice: play it as a nobrainshooter and not as an rpg

So sad and depressing means bad...Hardly just think if Bioware came up with and ending where it was all sunshine and butterflies, I'm sorry but people would hate on the ending no matter what it is. When your finishing off a trilogy that has many people invested, these people create their own ending in their head when its not what they want they ****...Thats the way the world works:blink:

[Legion64]

John Never Dies wrote...

If you want a good solid ending for the end of a trilogy. Its very good.

If you have dreams of being in relationships with the main characters and you are looking for a Disney film ending...eh.

Whatever happens, the REAPERS MUST DIE AT ALL COST.

[Julia343]

What is going on in the galaxy? It is being reaped! We've known what was going to happen since ME1. Happy ending? From that? How? Someone explain?

[Sentr0]

AlanC9 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

gameplay is gonna be good, story not so good. Endings will be sad and depressing, all of them. My advice: play it as a nobrainshooter and not as an rpg

How does this follow? Are RPGs supposed to have happy endings?

if you play it as an RPG you might start caring about the story and the characters... and in the end you might get disappointed   I mean i remeber people getting  mad about the choice of kaidan and ashley on ME1, well ME3 will bring that to a whole new level ^____^

[Northern Sun]

I have no idea what the ending is, but I'm not expecting even the best ending to be good in a traditional sense. No matter what happens, trillions of people will die, entire worlds will be uninhabitable, and the galaxy will enter an economic depression that will last decades, maybe even centuries. Multiple systems will probably leave the Council and their respective species governments, and species will eventually start fighting each other over resources, with slavery and anarchy rising.

Hopefully, with those low expectations, I won't find the ending as outrageous as some people think.

[JaegerBane]

AlanC9 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

gameplay is gonna be good, story not so good. Endings will be sad and depressing, all of them. My advice: play it as a nobrainshooter and not as an rpg

How does this follow? Are RPGs supposed to have happy endings?

I would submit that they're supposed to have *satisfying* endings. You don't necessarily need a happy ending to be a satisfying one, but its extremely hard to make that kind of ending work. At the end of the day, players have spent ages getting to grips with their character and their character's team... simply binning them off is not going to really work no matter how 'bittersweet' or 'realistic' such an ending is.

I'm going to withold judgement until I play it... but the kind of stuff being mentioned on the forums isn't exactly filling me with confidence. I'd hate to think my favourite franchise gets the Matrix treatment.