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The reapers are a threat to the entire galaxy and destroy entire species, I wouldn't be expecting this war to have a happy ending.

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JaegerBane wrote...

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gameplay is gonna be good, story not so good. Endings will be sad and depressing, all of them. My advice: play it as a nobrainshooter and not as an rpg


How does this follow? Are RPGs supposed to have happy endings?


I would submit that they're supposed to have *satisfying* endings. You don't necessarily need a happy ending to be a satisfying one, but its extremely hard to make that kind of ending work. At the end of the day, players have spent ages getting to grips with their character and their character's team... simply binning them off is not going to really work no matter how 'bittersweet' or 'realistic' such an ending is.

I'm going to withold judgement until I play it... but the kind of stuff being mentioned on the forums isn't exactly filling me with confidence. I'd hate to think my favourite franchise gets the Matrix treatment.


I feel the endings are satisfying.:wizard:

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I like the endings as I understand them without playing or looking too deep into them, but.... these forums will be uninhabitable and cut off from communication for a very long time in my world. :bandit:

Modifié par GracefulChicken, 04 mars 2012 - 08:40 .


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Il Divo wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

gameplay is gonna be good, story not so good. Endings will be sad and depressing, all of them. My advice: play it as a nobrainshooter and not as an rpg


How does this follow? Are RPGs supposed to have happy endings?


Come to think of it, alot of RPGs I've loved have had kinda weak endings, KotOR 1 included.


Revan got a medal. I wanted Shepard to get a medal too! :devil:

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Whats funny is all the complainers are going to buy it

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BuffPhantoms wrote...

Whats funny is all the complainers are going to buy it

I'm not, or at not until I've heard something to convince me that all the spoilers aren't quite as bad as they sound.

And if you find it funny that people complain about a downright depressing ending to a series that they've come to love then that's also depressing.

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Il Divo wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

gameplay is gonna be good, story not so good. Endings will be sad and depressing, all of them. My advice: play it as a nobrainshooter and not as an rpg


How does this follow? Are RPGs supposed to have happy endings?


Come to think of it, alot of RPGs I've loved have had kinda weak endings, KotOR 1 included.


Given KotOR's laughable plot twist, I hardly see ME3 will be worse than that.

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Legion64 wrote...

The reapers are a threat to the entire galaxy and destroy entire species, I wouldn't be expecting this war to have a happy ending.


Most of us are interested in ME3 because we played and liked ME1/ME2, and those games had an at least satisfying ending (i'd even say happy). So i expect(ed) this ME3 to have a satisfying and epic ending as well, to end this trilogy in the best way possible...

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DaJe wrote...

If the endings are not Disney happy end, into the sunset sort of things I'm fine with it. I just hope that there are sufficient shades of grey that reflect our decisions in the 3 games.

Uhm... i thought a lot about how to answer this without spoiler anything:

If your statement is true, according to what i have read and seen on youtube you will be disappointed.

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ME1 didn't really have a super happy ending, though. Okay, you survived an explosion and the reaper died but compared to the start of the game the future looks quite a bit more bleak. ME2 did have an oddly happy ending considering it was supposed to be the darker game (everyone is alive! huzzah!).

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Sentr0 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

gameplay is gonna be good, story not so good. Endings will be sad and depressing, all of them. My advice: play it as a nobrainshooter and not as an rpg


How does this follow? Are RPGs supposed to have happy endings?


if you play it as an RPG you might start caring about the story and the characters... and in the end you might get disappointed ;)  I mean i remeber people getting  mad about the choice of kaidan and ashley on ME1, well ME3 will bring that to a whole new level ^____^


Caring about the story and characters simply doesn't mean that characters shouldn't get killed. I remember people whining about Serenity too... but they were fools.

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Sentr0 wrote...

Legion64 wrote...

The reapers are a threat to the entire galaxy and destroy entire species, I wouldn't be expecting this war to have a happy ending.


Most of us are interested in ME3 because we played and liked ME1/ME2, and those games had an at least satisfying ending (i'd even say happy). So i expect(ed) this ME3 to have a satisfying and epic ending as well, to end this trilogy in the best way possible...


Ahh, false expectations... the root of all evil. Should've known it.

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Revan got a medal. I wanted Shepard to get a medal too! :devil:


Admittedly, medals are fun.

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Sentr0 wrote...

Legion64 wrote...

The reapers are a threat to the entire galaxy and destroy entire species, I wouldn't be expecting this war to have a happy ending.


Most of us are interested in ME3 because we played and liked ME1/ME2, and those games had an at least satisfying ending (i'd even say happy). So i expect(ed) this ME3 to have a satisfying and epic ending as well, to end this trilogy in the best way possible...


Happy doesn't necessarily mean epic. In ME2, when Shepard was the last man alive during the suicide mission and watching him fall to his death, that was epic but still sad.

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The ending I watched made me want to vomit glass... but then again, I was hoping for a fairytale ending. I'll get over it... hopefully. :(

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Sunfleur wrote...

The ending I watched made me want to vomit glass... but then again, I was hoping for a fairytale ending. I'll get over it... hopefully. :(


If you don't want to burp may you shouldn't drink your soda so fast.

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Wasnt the point of the ME series to create your own Shepard and walk through the story your way?
Then why is it wrong some people want to have Shepard walking in to sunset with their LI? And have the ending they want to THEIR story.

Ofcourse I dont know all the endings, but I hope the endings are really different from each other.
I mean you make certain choices in all 3 games, and is it so hard for Bioware to make the last ending of the Shepard story like everybody wants and all their (important) choices will reflect in those endings?

Look at The Witcher 2, it has alot of different endings depending on your choices. And if CD Project Red can do something like that, that I think Bioware can do that to


This. 

Why is it so wrong in everyone's eyes that I would want to have a happy ending? I don't mean sunshine and bunnies frolicking. I would consider a happy ending anything that ends with Shepard and their LI or their friends going about and figuring out now, "How do we rebuild from this?". But I mean ME1 or ME2 were happy to me. Obviously there will need to be rebuilding of Earth and other civilizations. And people will die.

I just think there should be some control over this by the player. Characters and relationships and things should not just be doomed from day one. I didn't go through all the effort with my Shep, weighing their choices and pondering what to do and who to save in order to have everything be doomed.

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Legion64 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

Legion64 wrote...

The reapers are a threat to the entire galaxy and destroy entire species, I wouldn't be expecting this war to have a happy ending.


Most of us are interested in ME3 because we played and liked ME1/ME2, and those games had an at least satisfying ending (i'd even say happy). So i expect(ed) this ME3 to have a satisfying and epic ending as well, to end this trilogy in the best way possible...


Happy doesn't necessarily mean epic. In ME2, when Shepard was the last man alive during the suicide mission and watching him fall to his death, that was epic but still sad.


But you could have saved him by playing differently/better! That's the whole point! In me3 no matter what you do and how you do it, in the end you're gonna fail anyway

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Il Divo wrote...

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How does this follow? Are RPGs supposed to have happy endings?


Come to think of it, alot of RPGs I've loved have had kinda weak endings, KotOR 1 included.


Hey, the DS ending wasn't bad.

My favorite KotOR ending was the cut LS/DS ending, where a DS female PC kills Malak, only to be confronted by Carth. The player can then let Carth redeem her to the light side, and the Republic fleet sends the Star Forge, Carth, and the PC crashing into the sun.

Making that the canon ending would have really helped out KotOR 2.

Modifié par AlanC9, 04 mars 2012 - 09:07 .


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Hey, the DS ending wasn't bad.

My favorite KotOR ending was the cut LS/DS ending, where a DS female PC kills Malak, only to be confronted by Carth. The player can then let Carth redeem her to the light side, and the Republic fleet sends the Star Forge, Carth, and the PC crashing into the sun.

Making that the canon ending would have really helped out KotOR 2.


Haha, I forgot about that one!

But you're right, it's really only the light side ending that feels so lacking.

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To be fair, there are rumors of a New Game + ending, the potential for an expansion pack and we haven't actually played this, just listened to audio files and repeated things from other people. I'm anxious to play the game myself.

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AlanC9 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
How does this follow? Are RPGs supposed to have happy endings?


Come to think of it, alot of RPGs I've loved have had kinda weak endings, KotOR 1 included.


Hey, the DS ending wasn't bad.

My favorite KotOR ending was the cut LS/DS ending, where a DS female PC kills Malak, only to be confronted by Carth. The player can then let Carth redeem her to the light side, and the Republic fleet sends the Star Forge, Carth, and the PC crashing into the sun.

Making that the canon ending would have really helped out KotOR 2.


It was the best ending but it was also the most specific. Requirements...

Female
Romanced Carth
Join Bastila
Don't kill Carth

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Sunfleur wrote...

The ending I watched made me want to vomit glass... but then again, I was hoping for a fairytale ending. I'll get over it... hopefully. :(


Have only vague/abstract idea of what the endings are now. I think I would be too depressed if I looked buuut..

I also wanted my fairytale/happy ending.

After all, if you work for it and are willing to put the effort in/play better then that should be reflected. You shouldn't be doomed regardless of your choices.

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I guess no matter what some will be disappointed. Everyone had their own idea of how they wanted it to end and for many i guess whatever they do they won't like it. Personally i'm glad they didn't go with some cheesy ending where the galaxy is saved and everyone cheers Shepard as a hero and he/she gets a medal or a seat on the council and then marries their L.I and has a baby Shepard/Alien thing which picks up a toy gun like it will be Shepard of the future.

That would be boring and predictable and the fact the endings have everyone talking shows they did something that nobody was expecting. And also that some people are butt hurt because they need glory to like a game where they can save the world and feel better about themselves.

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Nageth wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
Making that the canon ending would have really helped out KotOR 2.


It was the best ending but it was also the most specific. Requirements...

Female
Romanced Carth
Join Bastila
Don't kill Carth


I thought Carth always ran away?

But yeah, I never would have seen that since IIRC I didn't play any DS females.