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[curly haired boy]

you like the endings if your win conditions are saving the galaxy from the reapers.

you hate the endings if your win conditions are raising a family with your LI and having a nice quiet retirement.

i have a feeling that if ME3 let you choose between the two, the majority of BSN posters would let the galaxy burn.

[Clippersfan]

Interesting but true. Goes to show that the focus of most the gamers on ME is in the wrong place. The whole game emphasis save the galaxy and earth from the Reapers... yet more people DO indeed focus on the LI.

[Taleroth]

I hate any ending that has fighters go down to anything but fighting or retirement.

[curly haired boy]

this is still relevant.

[RayDX]

Taleroth wrote...

I hate any ending that has fighters go down to anything but fighting or retirement.

This. One damn happy ending would be nice. And every other can be for the sadistic bastards that like reality too much. :Đ

[nocbl2]

BIOWARE Y U NO GIVE US BOTH?

[evil-pineapples]

I dislike the ending because it doesn't take player choice into account. Your ship crashes no matter what, the relays blow up no matter what. That's not choice. That's a forced ending.

[xsdob]

In war, where causalities are guaranteed to be great, those who sacrifice are the ones who help to win the wars, those who live are usually the ones who were lucky enough to escape with their lives. Achieving the goal of protecting the galaxy should be more important than whether you live or die in battle.

If the endings were that the reapers win regardless of what you do, and the only change was whether your crew, your race, or just you manage to survive, than I would be pissed. That would make it an invalid ending in my eyes, that would be the game-breaker that makes me question what the point is, that is when I would start to post a s***storm up in these forums.

But as long as the galaxy is saved, than I can let shepard die knowing I made the right calls and got as many people alive as possible, and that I can kick the reapers asses along the way.

[Chuvvy]

Once again someone fails to understand why people are upset about the endings. It's not because you don't get to have babies with Tali, or Liara, or whoever, and it's not because Shepard dies, it's because the endings are terrible.

They make all of your choices irrelevant because they're all basically the same. Add to that the fact that best ending you can get in ME is Shepard being severely injured and barely alive, the entire crew and all of your squadmates being stranded in the middle of no where on an alien planet, with no real hope of rescue, the relays being destroyed, millions, if not billions of colonist will die because they're cut off, the galactic community is shattered, the citadel is gone, and earth is a pile of rubble.

Throw all that in a pot and you have the perfect recipe for fan rage, which bioware will get allot of.

Modifié par Slidell505, 05 mars 2012 - 07:30 .

[KMYash]

Clippersfan wrote...

Interesting but true. Goes to show that the focus of most the gamers on ME is in the wrong place. The whole game emphasis save the galaxy and earth from the Reapers... yet more people DO indeed focus on the LI.

For me its not just the LI. Heck, even if everyone survived and went on to live a safer life its not like its guaranteed to last forever. Like thinking a high school romance will. For me the main focus is on ALL of the squaddies/Normandy crew. BW spent two games making them important to Shep and the player and the spoilers from the third game make it seem like BW realized this and was like "Oh crap they were supposed to be more focused on the reapers not this. Maybe if we limit them in this game they'll change focus". Except 2 games of us coming to care for these characters is not easily changed.

[Golden RAAM]

curly haired boy wrote...

this is still relevant.

*Exiting Zero-Gravity*
Couldn't help 

OT: Everything nowadays sucks <_< guess that worked out for the haters.

[WizenSlinky0]

*sigh* Why does the side against the endings always have to be painted as disney ending freaks who want blue babies, or some such nonsense? Some want that, yes, and that's fair. Some don't care either way. They just want satisfying endings.

If there was an ending where the galaxy was in rougher shape but the normandy came through it cleanly I'd go with it. But I don't need it. I just want the send-off on the normandy to matter. It's arbitrary right now. I'd prefer if they went down in a glory-filled and heart wrenching moment in comparison to what we get.

To a lesser extent I'd prefer if we had more choice in how it plays out if only for replay value, like, if only 2-3 of the characters close to you can come out alive. It's be painful but amazing watching them make heroic sacrifices...and the choice in who lives helps me make multiple throughways and not have it be cringe worthy watching the same people die over and over and over. But that's a lesser complaint.

My main problem is the unsatisfying ending of the normandy.

[Sargerus]

evil-pineapples wrote...

I dislike the ending because it doesn't take player choice into account. Your ship crashes no matter what, the relays blow up no matter what. That's not choice. That's a forced ending.

ME1: Saren and Sovereign dies no matter what, the Citadel is saved no matter what

ME2: The Collectors are killed no matter what, the Alpha Relay is destroyed no matter what

[WizenSlinky0]

Sargerus wrote...

evil-pineapples wrote...

I dislike the ending because it doesn't take player choice into account. Your ship crashes no matter what, the relays blow up no matter what. That's not choice. That's a forced ending.

ME1: Saren and Sovereign dies no matter what, the Citadel is saved no matter what

ME2: The Collectors are killed no matter what, the Alpha Relay is destroyed no matter what

Your...idea of evidence is...that the enemy is defeated? I don't even...

The actual ending isn't the boss fight, it's the consequences of what comes before/after it.

ME1: Council Save/Destroy, Counciler (though technically you decide in ME2)
ME2: Collector Base Save/Destroy, Suicide Mission Squad Choices, Save/Leave normandy crew.

Yes, you are shoehorned into the general plot but you have a certain influence over who lives and dies.

In ME3 you pick your favorite color. Shame mine is purple.

[MythicLegands]

Sargerus wrote...

evil-pineapples wrote...

I dislike the ending because it doesn't take player choice into account. Your ship crashes no matter what, the relays blow up no matter what. That's not choice. That's a forced ending.

ME1: Saren and Sovereign dies no matter what, the Citadel is saved no matter what

ME2: The Collectors are killed no matter what, the Alpha Relay is destroyed no matter what

ME3: makes those irrlevent

[Golden RAAM]

MythicLegands wrote...

Sargerus wrote...

evil-pineapples wrote...

I dislike the ending because it doesn't take player choice into account. Your ship crashes no matter what, the relays blow up no matter what. That's not choice. That's a forced ending.

ME1: Saren and Sovereign dies no matter what, the Citadel is saved no matter what

ME2: The Collectors are killed no matter what, the Alpha Relay is destroyed no matter what

ME3: makes those irrlevent

Major plots that contributes to the ME3 setting? Wow.... that would have been like if we ignored Anakin skywalker loosing he's arm against Dooku and just going with... ''Oh it grew back''

[Lunatic LK47]

Slidell505 wrote...

Once again someone fails to understand why people are upset about the endings. It's not because you don't get to have babies with Tali, or Liara, or whoever, and it's not because Shepard dies, it's because the endings are terrible.

They make all of your choices irrelevant because they're all basically the same. Add to that the fact that best ending you can get in ME is Shepard being severely injured and barely alive, the entire crew and all of your squadmates being stranded in the middle of no where on an alien planet, with no real hope of rescue, the relays being destroyed, millions, if not billions of colonist will die because they're cut off, the galactic community is shattered, the citadel is gone, and earth is a pile of rubble.

Throw all that in a pot and you have the perfect recipe for fan rage, which bioware will get allot of.

Ding ding ding. Imagine the user review bombings ranging from 0-1 out of 10s in numerous sites.

[Nayt Navare]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Once again someone fails to understand why people are upset about the endings. It's not because you don't get to have babies with Tali, or Liara, or whoever, and it's not because Shepard dies, it's because the endings are terrible.

They make all of your choices irrelevant because they're all basically the same. Add to that the fact that best ending you can get in ME is Shepard being severely injured and barely alive, the entire crew and all of your squadmates being stranded in the middle of no where on an alien planet, with no real hope of rescue, the relays being destroyed, millions, if not billions of colonist will die because they're cut off, the galactic community is shattered, the citadel is gone, and earth is a pile of rubble.

Throw all that in a pot and you have the perfect recipe for fan rage, which bioware will get allot of.

Ding ding ding. Imagine the user review bombings ranging from 0-1 out of 10s in numerous sites.

\\\\

meh... qft

[OdanUrr]

curly haired boy wrote...

you like the endings if your win conditions are saving the galaxy from the reapers.

you hate the endings if your win conditions are raising a family with your LI and having a nice quiet retirement.

i have a feeling that if ME3 let you choose between the two, the majority of BSN posters would let the galaxy burn.

Close, but not quite. In my particular case, I'd want a reasonable explanation as to why the relays must blow up every time and regardless of the ending you choose.

[Baronesa]

Perhaps, people should start talking about what they were expecting.

I wanted or was expecting at least 1 ending (the perfect and damn hard to get) where:
Galaxy wide:
All fleets are destroyed below 1/3 to 1/2 of their original size.
Home planets and colonies on various stages of destruction
Citadel and Mass Relays still in place (keeping galactic civilization still going)
- How many are saved or how severe the destruction is, depending on the way you played (collect the points!)

Squad/Normandy/Past Crew
I was expecting deaths, no matter what. We got Wrex and Mordin... and I would have expected a few more Virmire scenarios.
Treat this as the suicide mission, your actions greatly increase the chances of most of them surviving.
LI and Shepard get to be together in the end

Uncertainty: With the weakened stage of the galaxy, I could see someone raising the alarms that now the Terminus system couldtry something against Citadel Space.

Rainbows and ponies right? -.- The only "Happy" thing is that in the midst of all the destruction, you were able to pull your team through and keep them alive (if some SHOULD be injured, mind you) and you end up with LI.

Now... that was what I was expecting for the most perfect possible ending, the one you should work hard to get.

Other endings? In all the others I was expecting for Shepard/most of the crew to die... simply you didn't prepared enough, you made sacrifices... maybe even some planets fully wiped out? yes. I could see the current endings on this category, a Pyrrhic victory. You destroy/control/merge and stop the current threat (and in destroy(merge the future, at least FROM the Reapers) but at the cost of Galactic Civilization.

And finally... even if you did all the critical plot missions but you didn't cared to raise your war assets, I was expecting for an ending with the Reapers wiping out EVERYTHING. Simply put, you were not prepared and the Galaxy payed the price. In fact I would really love to see an ending like this as one of the possible ones.

[Dark Specie]

Baronesa wrote...
Rainbows and ponies right? -.- The only "Happy" thing is that in the midst of all the destruction, you were able to pull your team through and keep them alive (if some SHOULD be injured, mind you) and you end up with LI.

Now... that was what I was expecting for the most perfect possible ending, the one you should work hard to get.

This, exactly!

[Dreogan]

I pick option C: I hate the endings because the current provided choices are lazy copy-paste. They didn't even have the initiative to provide a text-based outro as seen in Dragon Age Origins.

Player choice my ass. I don't want a happy ending: I want effort.

[Wolf]

The happy ending should be there. Not because the story can't end like this, but because we should have player choice.

Baronesa explained this fairly well, those are the kinds of ending we should have gotten.

The Guardian should have conformed to let us "newer" species to try our own hand at the future instead of playing by what they said was inevitable.

[crimzontearz]

100% true starting with the batarian homeworld