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[Eagle301]

Since in the end Bioware shoots the entire series to crap, what's the point of considering decisions/role playing for 3 full games if in the end it doesn't matter?

Its not that the endings bother me. I expected Shepard to die in ME2 and eventually the Mass Effect relays to go boom, but for the endings to have no impact based upon the choices you made through all 3 games? It really seems like the final "Screw You" from Bioware to fans of the series who have played all 3 games.

I'm guessing the next game will be Mass Effect: The Old Galaxy. MMO coming to you soon in 2014. Also, coming soon to a TV near you: The People vs. Bioware: Mass Effect 3.

[I_Jedi]

Hold on. It seems war assets have a hand in it. Keep yourself together. You've only seen a few endings.

[Juniper Mucius]

Obvious overreaction is obvious.

[xtorma]

They had to end it somehow. Like me , you may not agree with thier choices , but....there it is.

[_Martyr_]

Ah yes, "choices"

Just for fun, i'm with I_Jedi.

[mi55ion]

given how to story goes, the choices you make in 1 and 2 are solely for the way the story will unfold in 3 with a pretty much set ending (give or take few sweet or bitter pills to wash it down with), thus it has nothing to do with the actual ending.

[I_Jedi]

mi55ion wrote...

given how to story goes, the choices you make in 1 and 2 are solely for the way the story will unfold in 3 with a pretty much set ending (give or take few sweet or bitter pills to wash it down with), thus it has nothing to do with the actual ending.

doesn't rule out ALL decisions. you still said "give or take a few"

[Quionic]

 None of it matters, I'm definitely not playing or buying the game. Why would I if my character and everyone I like is just going to die or I won't be able to be with them anymore? This game IS NOT even worth pirating.

[Hexxys]

Yes, everything you do is pointless. The mass relays are destroyed, the citadel is destroyed. It will take hundreds of thousands of years to recreate them (or their equivalents), at which point everything you've done in Mass Effect is so far in the past that it's either pure myth or not known at all. The alliances you've forged and the friends that you've made are either killed or so isolated from eachother that they are dead for all intents and purposes. Nothing you do can mitigate or avoid this outcome.

In short, ME3's ending craps on everything you've done  and everything you've immersed yourself in up to that point. Whether or not you find this an acceptable is up to personal opinion.

Modifié par Hexxys, 04 mars 2012 - 10:45 .

[Nathan Redgrave]

I don't think whether or not it all "matters" should center on the last five minutes of the game when the rest of the game is all wrapped up in resolving all these past subplots you've been making choices about for ages.

Although, a Dragon Age: Origins style epilogue detailing the various fates of the galactic races from that point on might have made them all a little more poignant, since we'd actually get to see some of the long-term outcome of it. But then, maybe they'll make Mass Effect 4 and we'll get to see what the galaxy looks like six hundred years down the line thanks to our various Shepards. That'd be pretty cool.

[KefkaGestahl]

The choices may not change the ending, but they still matter. You have have to use your imagination. They may not mention what happens to the krogan if you leave Wrex in charge and cure the genophage, but something like that obviously matters. The krogan would be far better off and be capable of rebuilding their civilization, and with the mass relays down, they'll have time to fix their planet.

Things like that. They don't need to tell you the end result of everything, but I do agree that an epilogue would be nice.

[Shunt Mcblunt]

Well according to "GoW" these are not the Good endings. These are just the ME3 with normal stats no Multiplay. That is unless they have hacked the end with a Calculator already.

I could see an ending
Shepard: Well it looks like we don't need the Crucible. All the reapers are dying and with few Allied loses. So rather than setting this thing off I am going use it as a fail safe until the next threat comes.
Kid: Well the threat of Synthetic life is out there.
Shepard: The Geth have sided with creators this shows that Synthetics do not try to rule unless they are forced too. Besides the Geth are a race too just like all sentient life.
Kid: Eventually they will change and try to rule all life.
Shepard: Even after they seen what we did to those that were greater than them. I do not think so. All this talk of death and destruction were nothing more a child mentality with no grasp on true reality.
Kid: So you believe that.
Shepard: Life is not a math problem trying to be solved. It something that you must bungle through till the end. If we die do to our own stupidity so be it. It is not for one being to choose who should exist.
Kid: Interesting way to look at it.
Shepard: Also Harbinger why did you take on the kids form.
Harbinger: I though having a form you could relate too would influence you.
Shepard: I am sorry you can not see past the Reaper thing but that is because your creator was closed minded and only looked down one path. Just look at us now there are so many choices we can choose.
Harbinger: So which path are you gonna choose.
Shepard: I am tired of choosing. All I have done since this has started is choose. This time I am going to do nothing. Let the world figure it out on their own. I am just gonna rest over here because I am tired. Normandy ready for pick up.

Modifié par Shunt Mcblunt, 04 mars 2012 - 10:52 .

[Nathan Redgrave]

Shunt Mcblunt wrote...

Well according to "GoW" these are not the Good endings. These are just the ME3 with normal stats no Multiplay. That is unless they have hacked the end with a Calculator already.

That's not how it works. The multiplayer "Readiness" percentage only makes it easier to get the best endings. You don't actually need it; it just means you might not need as many of the single-player mode's war assets to get yourself over the "line" for the better endings.

[RogueBot]

Shunt Mcblunt wrote...

Well according to "GoW" these are not the Good endings. These are just the ME3 with normal stats no Multiplay. That is unless they have hacked the end with a Calculator already.

I could see an ending
Shepard: Well it looks like we don't need the Crucible. All the reapers are dying and with few Allied loses. So rather than setting this thing off I am going use it as a fail safe until the next threat comes.
Kid: Well the threat of Synthetic life is out there.
Shepard: The Geth have sided with creators this shows that Synthetics do not try to rule unless they are forced too. Besides the Geth are a race too just like all sentient life.
Kid: Eventually they will change and try to rule all life.
Shepard: Even after they seen what we did to those that were greater than them. I do not think so. All this talk of death and destruction were nothing more a child mentality with no grasp on true reality.
Kid: So you believe that.
Shepard: Life is not a math problem trying to be solved. It something that you must bungle through till the end. If we die do to our own stupidity so be it. It is not for one being to choose who should exist.
Kid: Interesting way to look at it.
Shepard: Also Harbinger why did you take on the kids form.
Harbinger: I though having a form you could relate too would influence you.
Shepard: I am sorry you can not see past the Reaper thing but that is because your creator was closed minded and only looked down one path. Just look at us now there are so many choices we can choose.
Harbinger: So which path are you gonna choose.
Shepard: I am tired of choosing. All I have done since this has started is choose. This time I am going to do nothing. Let the world figure it out on their own. I am just gonna rest over here because I am tired. Normandy ready for pick up.

You're getting my hopes up. Knock it off. Joker flying the Normandy to pick up Shepard who's simply resting on his laurels during the final battle (and maybe smoking a blunt) would be a perfect ending.

Modifié par RogueBot, 04 mars 2012 - 10:57 .

[HairyMadDog1010]

Choices do mater, A lot of the choices from the last 2 games show up as war assets and with enough assets Shep can live depending on the ending. Also with enough assets the light beams dont toast earth.

Modifié par HairyMadDog1010, 04 mars 2012 - 11:05 .

[Aesieru]

RogueBot wrote...

Shunt Mcblunt wrote...

Well according to "GoW" these are not the Good endings. These are just the ME3 with normal stats no Multiplay. That is unless they have hacked the end with a Calculator already.

I could see an ending
Shepard: Well it looks like we don't need the Crucible. All the reapers are dying and with few Allied loses. So rather than setting this thing off I am going use it as a fail safe until the next threat comes.
Kid: Well the threat of Synthetic life is out there.
Shepard: The Geth have sided with creators this shows that Synthetics do not try to rule unless they are forced too. Besides the Geth are a race too just like all sentient life.
Kid: Eventually they will change and try to rule all life.
Shepard: Even after they seen what we did to those that were greater than them. I do not think so. All this talk of death and destruction were nothing more a child mentality with no grasp on true reality.
Kid: So you believe that.
Shepard: Life is not a math problem trying to be solved. It something that you must bungle through till the end. If we die do to our own stupidity so be it. It is not for one being to choose who should exist.
Kid: Interesting way to look at it.
Shepard: Also Harbinger why did you take on the kids form.
Harbinger: I though having a form you could relate too would influence you.
Shepard: I am sorry you can not see past the Reaper thing but that is because your creator was closed minded and only looked down one path. Just look at us now there are so many choices we can choose.
Harbinger: So which path are you gonna choose.
Shepard: I am tired of choosing. All I have done since this has started is choose. This time I am going to do nothing. Let the world figure it out on their own. I am just gonna rest over here because I am tired. Normandy ready for pick up.

You're getting my hopes up. Knock it off. Joker flying the Normandy to pick up Shepard who's simply resting on his laurels during the final battle (and maybe smoking a blunt) would be a perfect ending.

Yes because drugs that with neural carbides or essentially that affect your brain chemicals with hallucinatory possibilities is obviously what the rational Hero should do.

[Legendaryred]

Nope, because you can increase the readiness by just playing multiplayer, so meh.

[RogueBot]

Aesieru wrote...

RogueBot wrote...

Shunt Mcblunt wrote...

Well according to "GoW" these are not the Good endings. These are just the ME3 with normal stats no Multiplay. That is unless they have hacked the end with a Calculator already.

I could see an ending
Shepard: Well it looks like we don't need the Crucible. All the reapers are dying and with few Allied loses. So rather than setting this thing off I am going use it as a fail safe until the next threat comes.
Kid: Well the threat of Synthetic life is out there.
Shepard: The Geth have sided with creators this shows that Synthetics do not try to rule unless they are forced too. Besides the Geth are a race too just like all sentient life.
Kid: Eventually they will change and try to rule all life.
Shepard: Even after they seen what we did to those that were greater than them. I do not think so. All this talk of death and destruction were nothing more a child mentality with no grasp on true reality.
Kid: So you believe that.
Shepard: Life is not a math problem trying to be solved. It something that you must bungle through till the end. If we die do to our own stupidity so be it. It is not for one being to choose who should exist.
Kid: Interesting way to look at it.
Shepard: Also Harbinger why did you take on the kids form.
Harbinger: I though having a form you could relate too would influence you.
Shepard: I am sorry you can not see past the Reaper thing but that is because your creator was closed minded and only looked down one path. Just look at us now there are so many choices we can choose.
Harbinger: So which path are you gonna choose.
Shepard: I am tired of choosing. All I have done since this has started is choose. This time I am going to do nothing. Let the world figure it out on their own. I am just gonna rest over here because I am tired. Normandy ready for pick up.

You're getting my hopes up. Knock it off. Joker flying the Normandy to pick up Shepard who's simply resting on his laurels during the final battle (and maybe smoking a blunt) would be a perfect ending.

Yes because drugs that with neural carbides or essentially that affect your brain chemicals with hallucinatory possibilities is obviously what the rational Hero should do.

Um... it was a joke. Methinks you've been posting on these forums for too long. Break time? 

[SilencedScream]

HairyMadDog1010 wrote...

Choices do mater, A lot of the choices from the last 2 games show up as war assets and with enough assets Shep can live depending on the ending. Also with enough assets the light beams dont toast earth.

Enough war assets can be obtained from ME3 alone, which means the first two games weren't necessary.
Thus, no - it doesn't really matter, unfortunately.

[HairyMadDog1010]

Legendaryred wrote...

Nope, because you can increase the readiness by just playing multiplayer, so meh.

No, how multiplayer works is you build up a modifier that increaces the ammount of points war assets give.

HUGE SPOILERS link contains a large list of assets http://pastebin.com/hRks27wB

[Quionic]

Aesieru wrote...


Yes because drugs that with neural carbides or essentially that affect your brain chemicals with hallucinatory possibilities is obviously what the rational Hero should do.

Makes more sense than the QUALITY BIOWARE WRITING we're already getting. 

[Aesieru]

Quionic wrote...

Aesieru wrote...


Yes because drugs that with neural carbides or essentially that affect your brain chemicals with hallucinatory possibilities is obviously what the rational Hero should do.

Makes more sense than the QUALITY BIOWARE WRITING we're already getting. 

http://social.biowar...ndex/9613255/14 

[blueruin]

THE END IS NIGH

REPENT

YOU ARE A BLIGHT

[Shunt Mcblunt]

Oh for you people think my name is Drug reference, it is not. Yes people refer to Some drugs that you smoke as blunts. Way before that the term was created.
Blunt
1a : slow or deficient in feeling : insensitive
b : obtuse in understanding or discernment
2: having an edge or point that is not sharp
3a : abrupt in speech or manner
b : being straight to the point

So my version of my name is Derived not from illegal means but through my attitude.

I am Irish and straight forward with no feelings and carrying a big ass stick. Now with my first name Shunt means I am shutting you off right now because I do not care anymore about you and your drug references.

Modifié par Shunt Mcblunt, 04 mars 2012 - 11:26 .

[WarGriffin]

Well let's be honest

We saw the signs in ME2 that BW was gonna write around your choices

If you save the council, they still don't believe you
If you replace them or make an all human council guess what, those SOBS don't even bother to show up