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[Warlord_Thuran]

Right, first of all it should be noted that this is pure speculation. I don't have specific numbers, but that isn't the purpose of this thread, rather it is more of a thought experiment if you will.

From what we have seen so far, there are a LOT of concerns regarding the quality of ME3 even prior to release, from the 3 game modes, to the ending being bad, to the RPG elements having been mostly removed, even in RPG mode through the use of auto-dialogue.

Now, we can all agree that ME3 is one of the most anticipated RPG's ever made, we all have our Shepards and we are all waiting with baited breath to see the storyline reach it's epic armaggedon-like climax where we finally get to throw down against the reapers and end it.

However, with great hype comes usually great disappointment, especailly when it is related to characters that players have grown to actually give a damn about and in the case of Shepard have come to regard as "their Shepard" rather than just "the guy you play in that game.". There is a lot of emotional investment for a lot of players with this.

So, for many it will probably be crushing to see all of this come to naught and have the final, arguably most important, chapter ruined in favour of cooporate greed and "catering to the casual CoD mass".

However, Bioware simply making a bad game wouldn't be all that alarming, hell, most people i've talked to agree that ME2 was not all that good a game, but forgave it's flaws, especially in the story department, due to it being mostly and interlude and buildup to the finale. But, Bioware is also a company whose current reputation is one of making the best RPGs out there and one of the few companies that truly get how to tell great stories and keep improving the RPG genre which has lately been invaded by the MMO wave.

More importantly, ME2 can be considered to have been the last "good" game that bioware have made, with DA2 being largely recognised as a steaming pile of junk that had forsaken the classic RPG elements of the original, and Swtor apparently losing players fairly fast. That means that if ME3 fails to be a good game, it owuld be 3 games in a row that have not lived up to expectations.

Already I have heard people say that they are not planning to buy DA3 simply because they don't feel the series is worth bothering with anymore after DA2, and if the same happens with mass effect, that would lead to the 2 main franchises of the company comitting brutal suicide for the sake of trying to appeal to casuals. This in turn could in the worst case create general distrust in the company and it's future games and lead to the RPG playerbase abandoning it, since the company cannot be trusted to make proper games anymore.

So, the question to speculate is the following: Could ME3 sucking effectively kill off any goodwill amongst it's customers and leads to the idea that the company has compromised it's qualities and it's franchices crashed and burned? Could ME3 be the game that kills off Bioware's credibility as a game company and deter it's core customers from buying Bioware games in the future?

[Stanley Woo]

There are a couple of things at play here, and it is common to many other games besides Mass Effect 3:

1. Many people have difficulty dealing with disappointment, so they tend to trash things in order to manage their own eventual sadness, anger and frustration. They will blame something for being so bad that the only way they can be surprised is pleasantly, when the product doesn't absolutely suck. They win because the product was better than they feared, but they will never admit that they'd been badmouthing it all along. If the product does indeed suck as badly as they think it does, then they win because they were right all along and they can lord it over all the people who were "wrong."

Essentially, they continue to complain in this fashion in order to create a no-lose situation for themselves when they finally play the game. That is why you see such an increase in the amount of negativity in discussion forums these days. It is difficult to engage such people in discussion.

2. Predicting that this upcoming game will be the end of BioWare or RPGs or the gaming industry has been thrown around in our community since Neverwinter Nights. The following things were predicted to be the end of BioWare: multiplayer, developing for Xbox, KotOR, Jade Empire, actiony combat, developing for PS3, PC ports, console ports, DLC, same-sex romances, being a part of EA, lack of same-sex romances, day 1 DLC, in-game advertising, "the new [bleep]," marketing messages, courting a new audience, NOT courting a new audience, Mass Effect 2 being different from ME1, DA2 being different from DAO, all those bugs!, changes in release date, listening to fans, not listening to fans, listening only to whiners, listening only to the "drones," product tie-ins, milking fans, scaring away all our customers, etc. The list goes on and more than a little of it is contradictory.

People will complain about anything and everything and be the first to cry "see? I was right" when something happens to match what they're complaining about. Very few will admit they were wrong, or that they ever complained at all.

There you have it, a quick summary of why people complain here. There are certainly valid criticisms, and more than a few people who can argue and debate and disagree with maturity and articulation. We like those people. We don't so much care for those who like to scream and accuse at every turn.

End of line.