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[Kaiser Arian XVII]

You just need Korris, Wrex and Mordin on your side.

[Alikain]

Just great this get better and better. what was the points in giving as the Eve only to loss a friends. this whole ME3 story feels like a bad writing story

[curelightwounds]

KMYash wrote...

I can only have one? Mordin or Wrex. D:

B-but.....

I'll probably choose Wrex since I rather give Mordin a chance to heroic sacrifice himself to 'cleanse him of past sins' than flat out kill Wrex

All things considered Mordin should go. He said in ME2 that he's in his last decade; he's already on borrowed time. He wanted to make a difference in the universe before he died and given your convo choices, what he wants is to restore the Krogan.

This gives everyone everything they want.

[jellobell]

Well this sucks. I'll probably end up curing the genophage, but all of my favourite characters are dropping like flies; Mordin, Legion, Thane, Anderson...

Modifié par jellobell, 05 mars 2012 - 06:11 .

[spnccarman]

does anyone know how to save miranda yet?

[Virginian]

The_Other_M wrote...

If this is true....even though I get 0pts for rewriting the heretics, I have just enough potential points to achieve peace. BUT.....WTF I have to choose between Mordin or Wrex??!!!

There's no 3rd or 4th option, no negotiations, no alternate paths/actions; just one lives, one dies....Goddammit BioWare, that's a pretty ****ty choice.

Kaiden/Ashley all over again.

[Zyrious]

What if you have a human council? Infact, why is there a coup at all if you have a human council? Udina just pissy that day or something?

[WarGriffin]

Zyrious wrote...

What if you have a human council? Infact, why is there a coup at all if you have a human council? Udina just pissy that day or something?

BW has written around that so much... You don't evne see the human council

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

While I won't defend Bioware over my views on the endings, I will say that I have no issues with them killing off characters, especially non-LI characters that had their voice actors replaced. I think this is fair in this case. Mordin is old Salarians don't live much past 40 and I believe he's 50.

Same goes for Thane, he's dieing of an incurable desease.

To have these characters go out as heroes doing what they believe in makes them well worth saving in ME2.

You should respect Bioware's vision in this scenario. Bioware has given you choice, you can choose to save one or the other, regarding Mordin and Wrex. Even if that means in some scenarios going back to a previous game.

Other characters that die unavoidably you either knew they were going to die in ME2, or they had limited screen time with the player. They all go out for heroic and worthy reasons. It wouldn't be war without some loss.

Modifié par Pr3ying M4nt15 360, 05 mars 2012 - 06:28 .

[DeinonSlayer]

spnccarman wrote...

does anyone know how to save miranda yet?

It sounds like if you play your cards right, Miranda ends up on Earth in the end, remaining a loyal LI. BW must like her - she had unique advantages in the ME2 suicide mission, too. I think Jack ends up on Earth too, along with Jacob, but he cheated on femshep anyway so I don't know who cares about him anymore.

Thane dies no matter what. And unless there's some solution I'm unaware of that doesn't involve dismissing them as "war assets" and breaking the relationship (I think it breaks them off?), Tali, Garrus, Liara, Kaidan, and Ash are all screwed. They either die or get marooned in the end.

Not happy right now...

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 05 mars 2012 - 06:28 .

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

spnccarman wrote...

does anyone know how to save miranda yet?

It sounds like if you play your cards right, Miranda ends up on Earth in the end, remaining a loyal LI. BW must like her - she had unique advantages in the ME2 suicide mission, too. I think Jack ends up on Earth too, along with Jacob, but he cheated on femshep anyway so I don't know who cares about him anymore.

Thane dies no matter what. And unless there's some solution I'm unaware of that doesn't involve dismissing them as "war assets" and breaking the relationship (I think it breaks them off?), Tali, Garrus, Liara, Kaidan, and Ash are all screwed. They either die or get marooned in the end.

Not happy right now...

I agree with you on all points, except Thane. Thane makes it abundantly clear that he is going to die and that there will be no cure. Romancing him you are doing so on the understanding that they are his final days. Him dieing as an assassin, as what he does best, that's what he wanted. It's what he wanted in his ME2 recruitment mission as well.

Modifié par Pr3ying M4nt15 360, 05 mars 2012 - 06:35 .

[I TV Casualty I]

Thanks; this was really informative. One of my main goals going into this game is going to be peace between the Geth and Quarians.

Seeing as how I destroyed the Heretics and "won" Tali's trial, I'll have to make sure to finish those N7 missions before attempting anything peace talk-y.

[Zyrious]

WarGriffin wrote...

Zyrious wrote...

What if you have a human council? Infact, why is there a coup at all if you have a human council? Udina just pissy that day or something?

BW has written around that so much... You don't evne see the human council

Seriously? What the hell, why? They worked with it pretty well in ME2. What happens with the whole "coup" thing then if you import a human-council shepard? Udina decides he wants to be emperor or something? Extremely pissy anderson got chosen by me as councilor? Oh let me guess, ME3 forgets if you picked Anderson as councilor...

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

I TV Casualty I wrote...

Thanks; this was really informative. One of my main goals going into this game is going to be peace between the Geth and Quarians.

Seeing as how I destroyed the Heretics and "won" Tali's trial, I'll have to make sure to finish those N7 missions before attempting anything peace talk-y.

Hope you're willing to die for that goal at the end.

[iExothermic]

spnccarman wrote...

does anyone know how to save miranda yet?

you warn her about Kai lang or whatever his name is and she lives.

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

Zyrious wrote...

WarGriffin wrote...

Zyrious wrote...

What if you have a human council? Infact, why is there a coup at all if you have a human council? Udina just pissy that day or something?

BW has written around that so much... You don't evne see the human council

Seriously? What the hell, why? They worked with it pretty well in ME2. What happens with the whole "coup" thing then if you import a human-council shepard? Udina decides he wants to be emperor or something? Extremely pissy anderson got chosen by me as councilor? Oh let me guess, ME3 forgets if you picked Anderson as councilor...

Actually I'm really confused by this. Was there something in the books?

I saw a cutscene and the council is clearly a different council with apparently Udina on it.

[Roflmonger]

Question, for my ME2 playthrough I decided to side with Tali for funsies just to see what Legion would say afterwards. Of course, I sided with Tali knowing that it was possible to regain loyalty with Legion afterwards. I regained Legion's loyalty in a following conversation.

I wanna know, does what I did still count as a +1 peaceful resolution to the Tali/Legion conflict?

[curelightwounds]

Roflmonger wrote...

Question, for my ME2 playthrough I decided to side with Tali for funsies just to see what Legion would say afterwards. Of course, I sided with Tali knowing that it was possible to regain loyalty with Legion afterwards. I regained Legion's loyalty in a following conversation.

I wanna know, does what I did still count as a +1 peaceful resolution to the Tali/Legion conflict?

No.

[iExothermic]

Roflmonger wrote...

Question, for my ME2 playthrough I decided to side with Tali for funsies just to see what Legion would say afterwards. Of course, I sided with Tali knowing that it was possible to regain loyalty with Legion afterwards. I regained Legion's loyalty in a following conversation.

I wanna know, does what I did still count as a +1 peaceful resolution to the Tali/Legion conflict?

I think no.

[DeinonSlayer]

Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

spnccarman wrote...

does anyone know how to save miranda yet?

It sounds like if you play your cards right, Miranda ends up on Earth in the end, remaining a loyal LI. BW must like her - she had unique advantages in the ME2 suicide mission, too. I think Jack ends up on Earth too, along with Jacob, but he cheated on femshep anyway so I don't know who cares about him anymore.

Thane dies no matter what. And unless there's some solution I'm unaware of that doesn't involve dismissing them as "war assets" and breaking the relationship (I think it breaks them off?), Tali, Garrus, Liara, Kaidan, and Ash are all screwed. They either die or get marooned in the end.

Not happy right now...

I agree with you on all points, except Thane. Thane makes it abundantly clear that he is going to die and that there will be no cure. Romancing him you are doing so on the understanding that they are his final days. Him dieing as an assassin, as what he does best, that's what he wanted. It's what he wanted in his ME2 recruitment mission as well.

People who romanced Thane were warned from the very beginning, I agree. It's the rest of them that come across as completely contrived.

[Kyzo]

About the Geth/Quarian thing, what about people who romanced Tali and reprogrammed the heretics in Legion's loyalty mission. Do we still need to do all that stuff to get some sort of peace between the two races?

[AlphaDormante]

Crap. I'd sabotage the dumb cure and lose Wrex if he never found out that I betrayed him. But I just watched a video where Shepard snitched on the plan and Wrex was just like "I told you Shepard was trustworthy :D". DAMMIT WREX HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BETRAY YOU NOW.

Modifié par AlphaDormante, 05 mars 2012 - 06:45 .

[spnccarman]

I'm going back and fourth in my head about saving Tali because I don't hate her but I don't really like her, the only time I ever used her was the loyalty mission, and I think it would be really funny to see her throw herself off a clif

[curelightwounds]

spnccarman wrote...

I'm going back and fourth in my head about saving Tali because I don't hate her but I don't really like her, the only time I ever used her was the loyalty mission, and I think it would be really funny to see her throw herself off a clif

Wait a minute, you mean you didn't do Engineer Shep/Legion/Tali party with drone spam? Drone spam was the best thing ever!

[Pr3ying M4nt15 360]

Kyzo wrote...

About the Geth/Quarian thing, what about people who romanced Tali and reprogrammed the heretics in Legion's loyalty mission. Do we still need to do all that stuff to get some sort of peace between the two races?

It's irrelivent, because for the geth to live, shepard has to die. But yeah there are a couple of sidequests you can do in ME3 that should sort you out so long as you got a high reputation and other things right like (Tali didn't get exiled and you resolved the conflct with legion and tali peacefully in ME2)

Reprogramming the Geth backfires and makes it harder on you but yields more overall war assets if you still resolve peacefully. You will have some but less Quarian fleets but more Geth fleets and more overall.

Modifié par Pr3ying M4nt15 360, 05 mars 2012 - 06:59 .