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[D.Shepard]

Elegana wrote...

To prepare you for ME3 and two of the major conflicts, I can tell you what paths to take in order to achieve peace between the geth and to get both Krogan and Salarian support.

Geth vs. Quarians
In order to achieve peace between the two races, you need to get 5 to 7 points. These points are based on your ME2 and ME3 decisions. If you have 4 points or below, you cannot achieve peace.

-Rewrote the Heretics (0 points)
-Destroyed the Heretics (+2 points)
-Tali is NOT exiled (+2 points)
-Tali has been exiled/You did not do the Loyalty Mission (0 points)
-Resolved Legion/Tali conflict either using the Paragon or Renegade options (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Save the Admiral on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Destroy Geth Squadron on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-Completed Legion's Mission in ME3 (or no peace)

You will need a HIGH reputation for the peace talks. If you rewrote the heretics in ME2 BUT achieve peace, you will gain more war assets, but there'll be less quarians. Also, if you rewrote them, you will face more geth than people who destroyed them, in which they'll face less geth. 

I rewrote the Heretics (+0), Tali is not exiled (+2), Resolved Legion/Tali conflict (+1) for a total of 3. completing the two N7 missions should allow me to achieve peace. It's not a problem to have more Geth assets since I'm in very good terms with Legions, while I mistrust some individuals among Migrant Fleet  (for example Admiral Daro'Xen)

Krogans vs. Salarians
Unforunately, you can't save both Mordin and Wrex. One must die.

To Save Mordin: Convince Mordin to fake the cure. Wrex will know that you lied and will try to kill you, meaning you must kill him. Eve must die. You gain Salarian support, but lose Krogan support. In order to REGAIN Krogan support, talk to the new leader and he will not know the difference and give you support.

To Save Wrex: Mordin will want your help to cure the Genophage (yes, he wants to undo it). Mordin will sacrifice himself to cure the genophage. You will gain Krogan support, but lose Salarian support. In order to REGAIN Salarian support, save the Salarian councilor during the Udina Coup.

EDIT: I apologize. For the Krogan vs. Salarian conflict, IF you want to cure the genophage, you will need Maelon's data from ME2.

Since I retrived Maelon's data from ME2 I should be able to cure the genophage. I like both Wrex and Mordin but if one of them has to die I prefer a heroic death over a fight against an old friend.

[Ace Attorney]

Damn...I don't remember if I kept Maelon's data....craaap...

[Da_Lion_Man]

Legion is dead (or better: broken) in my canon playthrough.

Damnit...

Modifié par Da_Lion_Man, 05 mars 2012 - 12:41 .

[dw99027]

xtorma wrote...

could you imagine a vorcha squadmate lol

Me shisask , me help, reapers all choke and die!

Reapers...you leave!

Pan to engineering, engineer adams looks down.......god damn vorcha crapped on the floor again.

Liara enters her office...looks down....well he seems to be getting closer to the bathroom with each attempt.

Ashley enters the female latrine...shisask this isn't the galley.

garrus enters the forward battery....turns around and leaves

garrus enters war room , opens com link to omega

Shepard walks into the galley...gavorn? what are you doing here?

shepard calls a crew meeting....where is shisask?

Garrus whistles.

I actually teared up... That was awesome, sir. Volus, Elcor and Hanar next?

[Roflmonger]

MORDIN SINGS HIS SONG BEFORE HE DIES.

They should have ended the game there. 10/10. Much more emotional engagement than '9 year old kid on earth with ship died in shuttle by reaper'.

Modifié par Roflmonger, 05 mars 2012 - 12:50 .

[GBGriffin]

I've been looking, but I haven't had much success in finding an answer (or, if one was presented earlier and I missed it, my apologies):

Doesn't the Krogan/Salarian thing ultimately impact the opportunity to save either Thessia or Palaven? How does that work, and can both be saved?

[Elegana]

GBGriffin wrote...

I've been looking, but I haven't had much success in finding an answer (or, if one was presented earlier and I missed it, my apologies):

Doesn't the Krogan/Salarian thing ultimately impact the opportunity to save either Thessia or Palaven? How does that work, and can both be saved?

Unforunately, I haven't spoiled myself that much concerning Thessia and Palaven. I apologize. But, the massive spoilers group should help you there. Xoisite, the guy with the space edition, frequents that group. 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I actually do not mind the Mordin or Wrex choice. It adds a degree of tension and conflict to the story. My issue is in choosing Mordin, you essentially screw over Wrex. Now this is without context, therefore the story may justify the rationality. In the event it does not, then the entire saving Mordin arc looks like a convoluted mess. Lets run down the basics

- You fake a cure, dooming Krogan
- Openly contradict the promise you made Wrex
- Are forced to kill him the Krogan leading
- New leader has no idea and says "Meh, why not help the humans?"

Seriously, BioWare? I beseech you, with context the story does not devolve into the aforementioned, otherwise any claim of writer's quality you once held is lost. Me2 has many plot holes but nothing so egregious as what is listed above.

[GBGriffin]

Elegana wrote...


Unforunately, I haven't spoiled myself that much concerning Thessia and Palaven. I apologize. But, the massive spoilers group should help you there. Xoisite, the guy with the space edition, frequents that group. 

Yeah, I've been checking it fairly regularly since "the beginning", but I wasn't having much luck. Looks like I'll have to comb through the multi-page threads to find it if it's mentioned

[D.Shepard]

T3hAnubis wrote...

Damn...I don't remember if I kept Maelon's data....craaap...

Usually the first "paragon" choice mention the "immorality" of Maelon research, then Mordin say the subjects will remain dead anyway and in the right hands the data could help the creation of a cure.
Shepard mentions how Mordin sees the Krogans's potential and suggests to keep the data. Mordin copy them and erease local files.

That's how I acquired the data, I hope it will allow you to recall the decision you made.

[Aesieru]

Cowards Mercy wrote...

I didn't save the "Ah yes" trio out of loyalty to them or some galactic need for the greater good. I want the ****ing Destiny Ascension in my arsenal. Of course seeing how one reaper was able to take down a Alliance dreadnought in about 5 exchanges of fire...

According to the BioWare writers that was a mistake, it was just a cruiser attacking a dreadnought not a dread vs dread.

In any case, aside from the Ascension we've never seen any Dreadnoughts or Carriers in the entire game and worse, the AD sucked against Sovereign.

[Yakko77]

KMYash wrote...

I can only have one? Mordin or Wrex. D:

B-but.....

I'll probably choose Wrex since I rather give Mordin a chance to heroic sacrifice himself to 'cleanse him of past sins' than flat out kill Wrex

Plus, Mordin is "old" by Salarian standards and is going to die soon anyways.  Might as well let him go out in a blaze of glory.

[Capeo]

Wait, you can't cure the genophage unless you kept the data? I thought the possibility was there no matter what. That's all Mordin does in ME3, no?

[D.Shepard]

Capeo wrote...

Wait, you can't cure the genophage unless you kept the data? I thought the possibility was there no matter what. That's all Mordin does in ME3, no?

That's was what I believed....

ME3 "surprises" are neverending, or so it seems...

[ncknck]

hehehe i get 5 points just from ME2 already. Cannot fail. Although i would want it for some playthroughs. Being a renegade. Strange.

[ratsneck00]

If it wasn't for all the other disapointing spoilers I would consider the choice between Wrex and Mordin a ballsy move and actually respect it. As it stands though its just something else that adds to the annoyances of this game.

[ncknck]

Wrex should die in ME1 anyways, for the exact same reasons. No way he could be talked out of not curing Krogans. Who is in his place then in ME3?

[Gexora]

ok, really stupid question.
I can't remember whether I saved or destroyed the data. Roleplay-wise I should have saved it, but I want to make sure
Is there any way to check it? Via the save editor or something?

[D.Shepard]

ncknck wrote...

Wrex should die in ME1 anyways, for the exact same reasons. No way he could be talked out of not curing Krogans. Who is in his place then in ME3?

I suppose the same Krogan who helds the position of leader of the Urdnot clan in ME2 if Wrex died on Virmire: Wreav.

[Yuri11]

Well, it seems that this game is perfect for 'Shepard is a jerk' video.

[Sarah_SR2]

This is good info but it's so unfair that some of you guys have played it and know this stuff already. The game isn't even released yet and already I'm 5 miles behind (

[crazyrabbits]

D.Shepard wrote...

ncknck wrote...

Wrex should die in ME1 anyways, for the exact same reasons. No way he could be talked out of not curing Krogans. Who is in his place then in ME3?

I suppose the same Krogan who helds the position of leader of the Urdnot clan in ME2 if Wrex died on Virmire: Wreav.

Yeah, from what I saw in the stream yesterday, Wreav appears even if you saved Wrex. If this is the case, Wreav dies during the Reaper attack when you're stopped at the broken road. Wrex doesn't seem too broken up about his death.

[JaHawk]

I thought rewriting them Geth would make it easier to broker a peace treaty between them an the Quarians in ME3. Bollocks.

[zr0iq]

I actually rewrote them for having a larger fleet when the reapers arrived.

Having less Quarians is bad :-(.

[JaHawk]

zr0iq wrote...

I actually rewrote them for having a larger fleet when the reapers arrived.

Having less Quarians is bad :-(.

This.