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[CYRAX470]

I was able to achieve peace on my first run through the game. Though at first, when I was given the option to kill legion or have him upload the Reaper code, I freaked out. Then I saw I got a dialog option while the upload was taking place. Total profit. One of the defining moments in the game, well done BW.

Also, I deleted Maeolon's data from ME2, yet I was still able to achieve peace betwen the Turians and the Krogan. Wrex, and Mordin were both alive, Mordin loyal, maybe that plays a role if the data is gone?

Modifié par CYRAX470, 10 mars 2012 - 03:07 .

[Kekhadgar]

What happens if Tali dies in ME2? as she wont be in ME3?

[GarrusVFan]

It was a hard call, I didn't know you could even have Wrex die until I read this, but I guess that's the result of never planning on cheating the Krogan to begin with.
Bioware are kings of creating "double-edged swords". Seems like you stand to lose too much regardless of the decision, just a matter of "which evil can you live with"?
Perhaps a bit naive of me, "Eve" being the first female Krogan to appear (that wasn't dead under a sheet) seemed more intelligent than the males, more open to diplomatic resolutions, and like the Rachni queen, she realized that their ancestors were wrong (even if it wasn't the Krogan's fault) so she intends to do better. Wrex ended up sharing command with her as well, so here's to hoping they don't over-run the galaxy again.

[Hunter_Wolf]

Of course, it would appear Wrex dies anyways until we get a DLC (Broken Steel 2.0) that follows up after the conclusion. The Destroyer basically looks to the building from where he's firing from, after killing the Asari Commando, and fires. Wrex seems to jump out of the way but at the same time you get attacked by Harbinger as you're running with your squad and they vanish for the final walk which assumes they're dead.

[Reiku67]

I'm really upset my paragon bar is full and I coudnt do the paragon or renagade option on the mission with tali and legion. Now I need to redo me 2 and restart my me 3...

[stu_]

Reiku67 wrote...

I'm really upset my paragon bar is full and I coudnt do the paragon or renagade option on the mission with tali and legion. Now I need to redo me 2 and restart my me 3...

See i thought i was going to have to go back and do another ME2 run.

Thankfully i found this thread and i made the right choice in 2.

[Zehtuka]

RedPhoenix381 wrote...

I rewrote the the Heretics (0 points), kept Tali from being exiled (+2 points), resolved Legion/Tali conflict either using the Paragon or Renegade options (+1 point), N7 Mission: Save the Admiral on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point), N7 Mission: Destroy Geth Squadron on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point), and completed Legion's Mission in ME3 (or no peace) - (total of 5 points) and paragon levels were extremely high but I still didn't get peace. That's some bull ****.

If you have any thoughts please help.

Same here, does anybody know if we can use the save editor to change the rewrite/destroy part?

I assume Legion's mission is the one where you enter the virtual reality, or is there another mission?

Modifié par Zehtuka, 10 mars 2012 - 02:47 .

[Voidster]

havnt found a save editor yet for ME2 (well for the ending anyhow) im sure its being worked on.

You should be able to grab a savegame from a Me2 site and be able to get all the options you need. Plus you can customize your char in the beginning (well short of the male/female option)

One thing about all this, before you do the mission to end the first part, talk to the doc. You will find out hes getting "old" and wants to help. Remember his species doesn't live very long, even compared to humans.

I was upset with his death, but his life saved an entire species from extinction. Just like Legion does.

just bugs me that the endings make their sacrifices feel ...diminished. If we didnt rally support, earth would be killed off...and all the other species would have been able to keep their people and ships in their systems, instead of stranded in the sol system. *shrugs*

[Elen]

Does anyone know what to edit to change "deleted genophage cure" to "saved genophage cure" in a ME2 save (or imported ME3 save)? I would like to save Eve but apparently I deleted the cure in my all ME2 games.

Edit: ok, that was easy enough after finding gibbed and the plot ids on pastebin

Modifié par Elen, 12 mars 2012 - 06:54 .

[adam_nox]

Is quarian geth peace possible without importing ANY ME2 save game?  Please someone tell me. I can't seem to swing it.  Don't want to waste a lot of time scouring for a rep point or 2 if it's impossible.

Thanks.

[Sepratard]

NubXL wrote...

Achieved peace in my save.

- Tali wasn't exiled in ME2
- Paragon'd the argument between Tali and Legion in ME2
- Rewrote the Heretics in ME2
- Saved the Admiral
- Did Legion's mission
- Rep bar maxed, 90% Paragon

Havent quite gotten this far yet. but i have a question.

Some people tell me that in talis trial you have to pick the "dont go to war" option for this to work. i chose the other paragon option labled "shes with me".

Think i can still achieve peace? did everything as stated above (except for the me 3 missions ofc will do those obviously)
 

[Rip The Reaper]

I tried telling people not detroying those geth in ME2 was a mistake...

[Giskler]

Renegades can only achieve peace if they have the full 7 points. You can fix this plot point by using Gibbed's save editor.

Edit: You can find it and a FAQ here: http://code.google.com/p/me3tools/

Modifié par Giskler, 15 mars 2012 - 09:05 .

[Zen_Mojo]

Giskler wrote...

Renegades can only achieve peace if they have the full 7 points. You can fix this plot point by using Gibbed's save editor.

Edit: You can find it and a FAQ here: http://code.google.com/p/me3tools/

WOW! Thank you so much!  That explains exactly why that dialogue hasn't come up for me.

Kind of sucks that my renegade saved everyone's lives, kept his crew together, and still can't negotiate a truce without also having killed the Geth. Just goes to show, you do one good thing and everything falls apart.

Modifié par Zen_Mojo, 15 mars 2012 - 10:35 .

[Sepratard]

Giskler wrote...

Renegades can only achieve peace if they have the full 7 points. You can fix this plot point by using Gibbed's save editor.

Edit: You can find it and a FAQ here: http://code.google.com/p/me3tools/

Why is that by the way? Because of the "good luck in the war comment on talis trial? or just a bug of some kind that sets the minimum requirement for points to 7?

Modifié par Sepratard, 15 mars 2012 - 10:14 .

[Giskler]

Paragons can get peace with 5 points, but renegades need the full 7. I guess they wanted it to be harder to achieve for renegades.

I think its funny though that to achieve peace you have to go with the renegade decision in ME2. Nice touch.

[Sepratard]

Giskler wrote...

Paragons can get peace with 5 points, but renegades need the full 7. I guess they wanted it to be harder to achieve for renegades.

I think its funny though that to achieve peace you have to go with the renegade decision in ME2. Nice touch.

Bit evil that they screw renegades over like that though :<

glad i play paragon ^^

annyway, thank you for this information. i was getting a little worried by all the topics with people not being able to achieve peace. this kinda set my mind at ease

[Zen_Mojo]

Giskler wrote...

Paragons can get peace with 5 points, but renegades need the full 7. I guess they wanted it to be harder to achieve for renegades.

I think its funny though that to achieve peace you have to go with the renegade decision in ME2. Nice touch.

Or a totally weak move.

My Shepard was renegade because the Council wouldn't listen to him and the only resources he could rely on were those of a group of human supremacists.  Also, he died, so he realized his mortality and how much time was wasted playing by the rules, saying "please," and letting people treat him like crap.

Sure, he punched the occasional snitch, kicked the occasional terrorist through a window, and said the occasional snarky comment but it's nothing John McClane wouldn't have done.  And isn't indoctrinating an army of geth on the off chance they'll join your side the renegade option?

Why they thought you had to be either a white knight or a psycho killer to achieve peace is beyond me.

P.S. I'm glad someone posted this by the way.  I got the editor, switched heretics rewritten to heretics killed and, surprise surprise, I magically get the dialogue option.  This was killing me, so thanks again.

Modifié par Zen_Mojo, 15 mars 2012 - 11:20 .

[Rip The Reaper]

Giskler wrote...

Paragons can get peace with 5 points, but renegades need the full 7. I guess they wanted it to be harder to achieve for renegades.

I think its funny though that to achieve peace you have to go with the renegade decision in ME2. Nice touch.

The decisions are not always cut and dry.

[Rip The Reaper]

As far as the heritics go. I've always seen that as a toss up. Neither option is Renagade or Paragon.

[Sepratard]

Rip The Reaper wrote...

As far as the heritics go. I've always seen that as a toss up. Neither option is Renagade or Paragon.

Im inclined to agree

i DO understand why they made rewriting the paragon choice, its obviously the less hostile choice.

The whole thing would have been far more interesting if the decision was  indeed "neutral" though.
Honestly i think alot of people blindly go for the choice that goes with their allignment (i know i did my first playtrough).

If the choices werent so obviously tied in with paragon or renegade i would have likely given it alot more thought.

Modifié par Sepratard, 16 mars 2012 - 07:54 .

[All-a-Mort]

ok so is the deal that because the Quarians are hell bent for the war, only when you back the Geth and the Quarians face extinction can you force the peace outcome because the quarians have something to lose and become more reasonable, whilst the geth don't much care either way?

Can't see it making sense that you can get peace if you killed the heretics and weakened the Geth, when it is the Quarians that are the problem.

[Joker616]

About the geth/quarian conflict. You get +2 point for destroying, but if you rewrite them, then the geth fleet will be bigger. (810 assets in my play through) .

[Zen_Mojo]

Joker616 wrote...

About the geth/quarian conflict. You get +2 point for destroying, but if you rewrite them, then the geth fleet will be bigger. (810 assets in my play through) .

If the geth are bigger, the quarians are smaller and vice-versa.  So the irony is that killing the geth and making peace gives you the same overall war assets as rewriting the geth and making peace.

So either way you play it, you get ~1300 assets between the geth and quarians.

[Gold Dragon]

Oddly, Re-Writing the Geth seemed to have upgraded the QUARIAN Fleet War Assets.  I though it a bug until Tali'Zorah vas Rannoch actually explained it.