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[RayDX]

Let's take a slow, logical path so everyone can understand.

"What is Mass Effect?" - A friend asks you.

"It's an awesome game where you get to choose what happens, rather than getting an imposed ending. It's also a game about a man (or a woman) and his/her team beating overwhelming forces and saving the whole galaxy.

It's a game where you can feel like a hero, which makes you feel good. Or bad - if that is what you choose."

See? It's all about being the ultimate hero, saving everyone. Or choosing to do whatever it takes. But even then it's a choice.

Most of us play Mass Effect to feel good about ourselves, to experience the journey of a man whose efforts and kind heart save the galaxy.

Some say, that's not what life is about. No ****in' ****. If I had wanted to see bad things happen or friends die, I would've looked outside the window. My friend killed himself yesterday.

For one, I came to Mass Effect to see some good. Kick some ass. Save everybody and be praised as a goddamn hero and marry my LI. Dammit, BioWare, is that so hard to understand?


"Take Earth back"
"Save them."

Yeah, right.

BioWare made a lousy choice. And I sincerely hope it bites them in the ass. But I'll still play it. And enjoy it. And hate myself for it.

Modifié par RayDX, 05 mars 2012 - 04:41 .

[MythicLegands]

The endings fail to matter.

[Juniper Mucius]

You can save everyone. You can even survive. It's just the Mass Relays that get destroyed. Not FTL technology. Earth gets saved. Trillions of lives are saved. From what I can tell, the crew being on the Normandy is a damn bug. How about we all calm down, get the stick out of our arse, and play the gods damned game on Tuesday?

[RayDX]

MythicLegands wrote...

The endings fail to matter.

Truly? You don't care about everyone being stranded? Characters you've learned to love in over (min.) 100 hours of gameplay. A Universe which amazed you with its lore?

I told my buddy who didn't even play Mass Effect about the problem with the ending. His reponse: "Lolwut?  Seems like they didn't know how to end it, so they got drunk and finished it."

The Free Jaffa - You have no idea how much will that make me happy, if there's any truth to it.

Modifié par RayDX, 05 mars 2012 - 04:47 .

[MythicLegands]

RayDX wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

The endings fail to matter.

Truly? You don't care about everyone being stranded? Characters you've learned to love in over (min.) 100 hours of gameplay. A Universe which amazed you with its lore?

I told my buddy who didn't even play Mass Effect about the problem with the ending. His reponse: "Lolwut?  Seems like they didn't know how to end it, so they got drunk and finished it."

The Free Jaffa - You have no idea how much will that make me happy, if there's any truth to it.

It's biowares reset button, because ***** YOU AND YOUR CHOICES sincerely Bioware.

[shepskisaac]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

 From what I can tell, the crew being on the Normandy is a damn bug.

Huh?

[WizenSlinky0]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

You can save everyone. You can even survive. It's just the Mass Relays that get destroyed. Not FTL technology. Earth gets saved. Trillions of lives are saved. From what I can tell, the crew being on the Normandy is a damn bug. How about we all calm down, get the stick out of our arse, and play the gods damned game on Tuesday?

The bug theory sounds like more grasping at straws to me. Just like "secret ending" and "ending DLC" before it.

[Juniper Mucius]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

You can save everyone. You can even survive. It's just the Mass Relays that get destroyed. Not FTL technology. Earth gets saved. Trillions of lives are saved. From what I can tell, the crew being on the Normandy is a damn bug. How about we all calm down, get the stick out of our arse, and play the gods damned game on Tuesday?

The bug theory sounds like more grasping at straws to me. Just like "secret ending" and "ending DLC" before it.

How does it sound like it's graping at straws?  You leave your crew on Earth, but somehow they are magically on the Normandy?  They just *poof* back onto the Normandy despite leaving them elsewhere? 

Obvious bug is obviously an obviously obvious bug.

[WizenSlinky0]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

You can save everyone. You can even survive. It's just the Mass Relays that get destroyed. Not FTL technology. Earth gets saved. Trillions of lives are saved. From what I can tell, the crew being on the Normandy is a damn bug. How about we all calm down, get the stick out of our arse, and play the gods damned game on Tuesday?

The bug theory sounds like more grasping at straws to me. Just like "secret ending" and "ending DLC" before it.

How does it sound like it's graping at straws?  You leave your crew on Earth, but somehow they are magically on the Normandy?  They just *poof* back onto the Normandy despite leaving them elsewhere? 

Obvious bug is obviously an obviously obvious bug.

And before that they screamed "obviously bioware would NEVER make an ending like this" as well.

Just sayin', you're making the same mistake everyone else has made. Assuming it's "obvious" because you can't concieve bioware would do this. Honestly I'd be happy if it were a bug. But...really? You're just building yourself up to get slapped down again.

[Eterna]

You still have choice.

[iheartbob]

You tell your friend "Mass Effect 3 endings suck."

Your friend says, "Wait ... how did you get the game early?"

You tell them "... I don't have it. People on the internet were saying the endngs suck. "

Your friend says "... so you haven't actually played the game?"

"No, but there are 1:20 video segments of the endings on youtube, and they suck."

Your friend says "... so you haven't actually played the game yet?"

You say "... well ... no."

[Foxhound2020]

Bah, my biggest problem with the ending is that's not an ending. It tells you nothing of what happens to shepard, or your crew, or to civilization.

It leaves everything incredibly vague.

I could deal with a bad ending as long as I knew how history concluded and what everyone's fate was, but all they did was imply a death sentence for the entire crew, and shepard is just a story that no one knows much about.

it's epic in a way of being shocking and bold, but not epic in a way of being heroic or creative.

Modifié par Foxhound2020, 05 mars 2012 - 05:12 .

[RayDX]

iheartbob wrote...

You tell your friend "Mass Effect 3 endings suck."

Your friend says, "Wait ... how did you get the game early?"

You tell them "... I don't have it. People on the internet were saying the endngs suck. "

Your friend says "... so you haven't actually played the game?"

"No, but there are 1:20 video segments of the endings on youtube, and they suck."

Your friend says "... so you haven't actually played the game yet?"

You say "... well ... no."

Your argument is invalid.

[SonofOrion]

There are some odds even ultimate heroes can't beat without taking serious losses. Mass Effect is not one of those series where you can save everyone and get a truly perfect ending for everyone and everything ever. In ME1 and 2, you only fought a mere fraction of the force you face in ME3, and you barely defeated them. If you're going to beat a supremely powerful foe like the Reapers, you have to be prepared to give up everything.

[Juniper Mucius]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

And before that they screamed "obviously bioware would NEVER make an ending like this" as well.

Just sayin', you're making the same mistake everyone else has made. Assuming it's "obvious" because you can't concieve bioware would do this. Honestly I'd be happy if it were a bug. But...really? You're just building yourself up to get slapped down again.

It's one thing to say, "BioWare wouldn't make these the only endings" without complete and utter proof.  It's another to be told, "yeah, even if you keep your crew members on a different planet, they magically appear on the Normandy without explanation, is a total bug".  It's immensely obvious it's a bug.  They aren't there if they are dead or recruited.  So it's clear that if they are recruited, there's a bug in the system that doesn't register them not being aboard the ship.  This happens *all the time* in games. 

I have a theory that IS grasping at straws.  Someone suggest that BioWare could have hidden other video files and endings that couldn't be accessed or hacked into, because the names were changed and the files were put somewhere else.  There's a first day patch, so my idea is that this patch will rearrange and rename files and put them in their proper place on release day.  Why?  People count 7 endings, BioWare said there is six.  The 3 endings with slight variations between them.  I figure, maybe there is another three endings that they have kept "hidden" within the files, and the patch will "unlock them".  That is *obviously* grasping at straws, and I don't even believe it. 

The Normandy crew fiasco, however, stinks of bug.

[shepskisaac]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

How does it sound like it's graping at straws?  You leave your crew on Earth, but somehow they are magically on the Normandy?  They just *poof* back onto the Normandy despite leaving them elsewhere? 

Obvious bug is obviously an obviously obvious bug.

Yep, it doesn't make sense. But what if it's not a bug and simply an awful plothole? Some people already finished the game, and they saw this "bug". If it never gets fixed, then it's not a bug.

[Juniper Mucius]

IsaacShep wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

How does it sound like it's graping at straws?  You leave your crew on Earth, but somehow they are magically on the Normandy?  They just *poof* back onto the Normandy despite leaving them elsewhere? 

Obvious bug is obviously an obviously obvious bug.

Yep, it doesn't make sense. But what if it's not a bug and simply an awful plothole? Some people already finished the game, and they saw this "bug". If it never gets fixed, then it's not a bug.

Yes, and they are releasing a small patch on the first day.  So...

[WizenSlinky0]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

And before that they screamed "obviously bioware would NEVER make an ending like this" as well.

Just sayin', you're making the same mistake everyone else has made. Assuming it's "obvious" because you can't concieve bioware would do this. Honestly I'd be happy if it were a bug. But...really? You're just building yourself up to get slapped down again.

It's one thing to say, "BioWare wouldn't make these the only endings" without complete and utter proof.  It's another to be told, "yeah, even if you keep your crew members on a different planet, they magically appear on the Normandy without explanation, is a total bug".  It's immensely obvious it's a bug.  They aren't there if they are dead or recruited.  So it's clear that if they are recruited, there's a bug in the system that doesn't register them not being aboard the ship.  This happens *all the time* in games. 

I have a theory that IS grasping at straws.  Someone suggest that BioWare could have hidden other video files and endings that couldn't be accessed or hacked into, because the names were changed and the files were put somewhere else.  There's a first day patch, so my idea is that this patch will rearrange and rename files and put them in their proper place on release day.  Why?  People count 7 endings, BioWare said there is six.  The 3 endings with slight variations between them.  I figure, maybe there is another three endings that they have kept "hidden" within the files, and the patch will "unlock them".  That is *obviously* grasping at straws, and I don't even believe it. 

The Normandy crew fiasco, however, stinks of bug.

Sorry but I went past the point of being surprised by glaring plotholes in games and series a long time ago. If you want to believe steadfastly it's a bug I really hope you are right. That would be nice. But I really doubt it and I would highly suggest not letting it get your hopes up.

As for the patch idea. Really, it's illogical mostly because it would screw everybody with a retail copy that doesn't use the internet on their consoles. So I'd have to agree with you. Infeasible.

[shepskisaac]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Yes, and they are releasing a small patch on the first day.  So...

Is the patch released on PSN/XBL yet? This is the only TINY small hope. Because the patch already is on Origin Pre-Load, but people can't play the game yet on PC. But they can already play on PS360, so if the patch already is on PSN/XBL and people who got early PS360 copes already installed it, they would've reported that the "bug" got fixed. Personally, I'm fully expecting that it's not gonna get "fixed" and that it's not a bug. I'm refuse to get my hopes up.

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

As for the patch idea. Really, it's illogical mostly because it would screw everybody with a retail copy that doesn't use the internet on their consoles. So I'd have to agree with you. Infeasible.

WELLL. They already get screwed with the flashbacks thing which is one thing we all actually DO expect to get patched, since we heard that this IS actual bug and they couldn't fix it before going gold.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 05 mars 2012 - 05:23 .

[Philonius]

Foxhound2020 wrote...

Bah, my biggest problem with the ending is that's not an ending. It tells you nothing of what happens to shepard, or your crew, or to civilization.

It leaves everything incredibly vague.

I could deal with a bad ending as long as I knew how history concluded and what everyone's fate was, but all they did was imply a death sentence for the entire crew, and shepard is just a story that no one knows much about.

it's epic in a way of being shocking and bold, but not epic in a way of being heroic or creative.

Im willing to bet that the person/thing opening the Normandy door was Shep himself. In my mind, when Shep shot the conduit or whatever it is, the Guardian being all super cool and what not decided to transport Shep directly back to the ship. Sorta like Star Trek transporters but on a larger, godlike scale.

Modifié par Philonius, 05 mars 2012 - 05:22 .

[iheartbob]

RayDX wrote...

iheartbob wrote...

You tell your friend "Mass Effect 3 endings suck."

Your friend says, "Wait ... how did you get the game early?"

You tell them "... I don't have it. People on the internet were saying the endngs suck. "

Your friend says "... so you haven't actually played the game?"

"No, but there are 1:20 video segments of the endings on youtube, and they suck."

Your friend says "... so you haven't actually played the game yet?"

You say "... well ... no."

Your argument is invalid.

I'm sorry, a 7:48 second clip. 

You still missed the point.

People are complaining who have not experienced the full game.  It's one thing to say "if these are the only endings and I play the game and they prove to be as stupid as they sound, I will be incredibely dissapointed and officially done with Bioware."  It's another to call a game trash that you haven't played. 

This is the first I've seen this video since I was not on the forums at all since Friday night, btw, so I actually do appreciate th link.

[Juniper Mucius]

IsaacShep wrote...
Is the patch released on PSN/XBL yet? This is the only TINY small hope. Because the patch already is on Origin Pre-Load, but people can't play the game yet on PC. But they can already play on PS360, so if the patch already is on PSN/XBL and people who got early PS360 copes already installed it, they would've reported that the "bug" got fixed. Personally, I'm fully expecting that it's not gonna get "fixed" and that it's not a bug. I'm refuse to get my hopes up.

They say it's supposed to be a patch on the first day.  I don't believe they said it's already been released on the consoles.

[shepskisaac]

Ehh, I wish it was a bug, I really do, but something tells me it's not...

[WizenSlinky0]

IsaacShep wrote...
WELLL. They already get screwed with the flashbacks thing which is one thing we all actually DO expect to get patched, since we heard that this IS actual bug and they couldn't fix it before going gold.

Not holding my breath for that one either.

[Spikko]

SonofOrion wrote...

There are some odds even ultimate heroes can't beat without taking serious losses. Mass Effect is not one of those series where you can save everyone and get a truly perfect ending for everyone and everything ever. In ME1 and 2, you only fought a mere fraction of the force you face in ME3, and you barely defeated them. If you're going to beat a supremely powerful foe like the Reapers, you have to be prepared to give up everything.

Exactly, i agree completely.
OP, if the dark tone of the series disturbs you maybe this simply is not the game for you.
Try something merryer (no sarcasm at all here).