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[Cody2Hottie]

 ok i need help from picking who i should have in my party so i got

Myself - Rogue
Alistair- Shield Tank
Leliana- Range Archer
Morrigan- Range attacker &  Buff Mage

should i switch out Leliana for the war dog or sten , and also should i switch out Morrigan for Wynne

im playing on Hard and were doing fine so far Alistair and I go out attacking the enemies while Leliana and Morrigan attack from a far just Morrigan isn't liking me that much cause i like to help people and i always have to give her a gift to keep her at normal bar

Modifié par Cody2Hottie, 05 mars 2012 - 05:33 .

[caradoc2000]

Sten won't like you either if you help people. Wynne, however, does.

[Cody2Hottie]

caradoc2000 wrote...

Sten won't like you either if you help people. Wynne, however, does.

switch 
Morrigan with Wynne? or do i even need a mage through out the playthough? would it be better too have the war dog and have one range attacker?

[caradoc2000]

Nobody is mandatory so it is up to your personal preferences. Myself, I like to have at most two melee party members, as they tend to get in each others way (especially in the narrow dungeons).

If you don't mind metagaming, you can avoid most approval losses by switching party members in and out as needed.

Having both Wynne and Morrigan in the party for a while is worth it for their banter.

[Cody2Hottie]

caradoc2000 wrote...

Nobody is mandatory so it is up to your personal preferences. Myself, I like to have at most two melee party members, as they tend to get in each others way (especially in the narrow dungeons).

If you don't mind metagaming, you can avoid most approval losses by switching party members in and out as needed.

Having both Wynne and Morrigan in the party for a while is worth it for their banter.

ok so since no body is mandatory thats very helpful with RPG's like this i go crazy sometimes on what i should do but another question i was also thinking about that other Rogue guy Zevran how is he was a rogue and would it be a good idea or a bad idea to have one shield guy and the others rogues?

[caradoc2000]

Zevran deals good damage, but to fully utilize his stealth/backstabbing abilities you'd have to take control of him (as the AI can't really do that). Also he is bad at lockpicking (not an issue if you are a rogue yourself).

I'd suggest you try out various party member combinations and see which one best suits your playstyle.

[dainbramage]

From a purely min-maxing standpoint, switching in Wynne for Leliana would be a good idea. Mages are kind of unarguably the best class (most fun, of course, is up for discussion. I personally prefer warriors), and you already have a lockpicker and tank. Wynne also can reach the highest spellpower of any mage (including a mage PC) if you get her early on, making her the best nuker as well as the support skills that she already comes with.

Usually it's not worth using any companions other than Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, Sten, Shale and Wynne (so long as you get the last 2 shortly after Lothering). The others just come too late, and have screwed up skills and stats when you finally get them.

Modifié par dainbramage, 05 mars 2012 - 10:06 .

[S3R10USG4M3R]

keeping people happy on ps3 is easy as, that dwarvan merchant in your camp continually sells those +50 happy pills lol gifts... as well as the pranks. I could be wrong, but ever since I got wardens keep it seems to be the case

God I wish I had this on pc, all those wonderful mods, ahhhhhh I think if you buy DLC for a game and register the game you bought on ps3, you should be able to download it all for PC its not rocket science, I know if thats not currently the case then its all about the greenbacks but, that sucks.

Modifié par S3R10USG4M3R, 05 mars 2012 - 10:39 .

[caradoc2000]

S3R10USG4M3R wrote...

keeping people happy on ps3 is easy as, that dwarvan merchant in your camp continually sells those +50 happy pills lol gifts... as well as the pranks. I could be wrong, but ever since I got wardens keep it seems to be the case

These require the DLC.

[S3R10USG4M3R]

An epic team, 3 rangers, you as one obviously, a mage, a skeleton, haste, and a wolf a spider and a bear, o yeah!!!! now dats what im talkin aboot harhar

[LightSabres]

dainbramage wrote...

From a purely min-maxing standpoint, switching in Wynne for Leliana would be a good idea. Mages are kind of unarguably the best class (most fun, of course, is up for discussion. I personally prefer warriors), and you already have a lockpicker and tank. Wynne also can reach the highest spellpower of any mage (including a mage PC) if you get her early on, making her the best nuker as well as the support skills that she already comes with.

Usually it's not worth using any companions other than Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, Sten, Shale and Wynne (so long as you get the last 2 shortly after Lothering). The others just come too late, and have screwed up skills and stats when you finally get them.

There is a mod to let you re-choose your class skills...  helps make the characters you get later much more playable

[Cody2Hottie]

LightSabres wrote...

dainbramage wrote...

From a purely min-maxing standpoint, switching in Wynne for Leliana would be a good idea. Mages are kind of unarguably the best class (most fun, of course, is up for discussion. I personally prefer warriors), and you already have a lockpicker and tank. Wynne also can reach the highest spellpower of any mage (including a mage PC) if you get her early on, making her the best nuker as well as the support skills that she already comes with.

Usually it's not worth using any companions other than Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, Sten, Shale and Wynne (so long as you get the last 2 shortly after Lothering). The others just come too late, and have screwed up skills and stats when you finally get them.

There is a mod to let you re-choose your class skills...  helps make the characters you get later much more playable

that would be very cool to have but i don't have this on the PC i know this kind of RPG should be played on the PC but my PC sucks

[Cody2Hottie]

caradoc2000 wrote...

Zevran deals good damage, but to fully utilize his stealth/backstabbing abilities you'd have to take control of him (as the AI can't really do that). Also he is bad at lockpicking (not an issue if you are a rogue yourself).

I'd suggest you try out various party member combinations and see which one best suits your playstyle.

wouldn't this work though? have Alistair use Taunt and get all the enemies to come towards would surely the AI would be smart enough to know when to back stab right?

[Ferretinabun]

Cody2Hottie wrote...

caradoc2000 wrote...

Zevran deals good damage, but to fully utilize his stealth/backstabbing abilities you'd have to take control of him (as the AI can't really do that). Also he is bad at lockpicking (not an issue if you are a rogue yourself).

I'd suggest you try out various party member combinations and see which one best suits your playstyle.

wouldn't this work though? have Alistair use Taunt and get all the enemies to come towards would surely the AI would be smart enough to know when to back stab right?

You'd think so, but no. There's no instruction to get AI companions to backstab. The best you could do I suppose is Enemy - attacking Alistair - attack  and just hope for the best. But it's hardly foolproof. I rarely take Zevran anywhere purely for this reason - it's hard to get him to be terribly useful in battle.

[Cody2Hottie]

Ferretinabun wrote...

Cody2Hottie wrote...

caradoc2000 wrote...

Zevran deals good damage, but to fully utilize his stealth/backstabbing abilities you'd have to take control of him (as the AI can't really do that). Also he is bad at lockpicking (not an issue if you are a rogue yourself).

I'd suggest you try out various party member combinations and see which one best suits your playstyle.

wouldn't this work though? have Alistair use Taunt and get all the enemies to come towards would surely the AI would be smart enough to know when to back stab right?

You'd think so, but no. There's no instruction to get AI companions to backstab. The best you could do I suppose is Enemy - attacking Alistair - attack  and just hope for the best. But it's hardly foolproof. I rarely take Zevran anywhere purely for this reason - it's hard to get him to be terribly useful in battle.

aw that sucks Zevran looks so cool too alright i suppose ill just use Wynne as my mage or do you really need a mage in the game? its just im playing on hard and all the good spells are Area Attack kind of spells and they always hurt one another :/

[S3R10USG4M3R]

One things for sure, and I forgot what it is, lol, your playing on hard huh damn... O I remember the more your not sure about your team and continue playing, the less xp the people back at camp get, so, yeah try to decide as quick as you can... that way you'll be leveling up the right people quicker and get those talents & spells all that much faster..

I'd hate to have a mage killing my guys, its happened before on normal heh, so no I dont think you absolutly need to have one, but they may do well in an almost non damager role, for like haste, and sleep and all that stuff ya know. group heal and yeah... death hex, w/e & w/e good luck,

since you play on console., theres always the money & dupe cheat, if your that way inclined, I am.. sometimes.. just if you dupe all the tomes, be careful not to max your skills because when you level up it WILL make the game unplayable.

the level cap is 25 so if you dupe the tomes make sure you leave enough skiills free to learn that would see you reach level 25 so if your like level 10, make sure to leave at least 15 skills that you can learn while leveling, same with talents tho if you were level 10 and a rogue you'd need to at least leave 7 free. you can get alot of stats for you and your group with tome of the mortal vessle, I may have mixed up the skills and talents but you get it right?

not sure if you have awakeinings, but I'd recommend getting it & continuing your game after, with a new level cap of 35 with cool new specializations ect. also wardens keeps a agreat DLC, love my storage/treasure chest. and also 2 more special skills. not to mention the self replenishing "feast day gifts"

Modifié par S3R10USG4M3R, 05 mars 2012 - 10:56 .

[Cody2Hottie]

S3R10USG4M3R wrote...

One things for sure, and I forgot what it is, lol, your playing on hard huh damn... O I remember the more your not sure about your team and continue playing, the less xp the people back at camp get, so, yeah try to decide as quick as you can... that way you'll be leveling up the right people quicker and get those talents & spells all that much faster..

I'd hate to have a mage killing my guys, its happened before on normal heh, so no I dont think you absolutly need to have one, but they may do well in an almost non damager role, for like haste, and sleep and all that stuff ya know. group heal and yeah... death hex, w/e & w/e good luck,

since you play on console., theres always the money & dupe cheat, if your that way inclined, I am.. sometimes.. just if you dupe all the tomes, be careful not to max your skills because when you level up it WILL make the game unplayable.

the level cap is 25 so if you dupe the tomes make sure you leave enough skiills free to learn that would see you reach level 25 so if your like level 10, make sure to leave at least 15 skills that you can learn while leveling, same with talents tho if you were level 10 and a rogue you'd need to at least leave 7 free. you can get alot of stats for you and your group with tome of the mortal vessle, I may have mixed up the skills and talents but you get it right?

not sure if you have awakeinings, but I'd recommend getting it & continuing your game after, with a new level cap of 35 with cool new specializations ect. also wardens keeps a agreat DLC, love my storage/treasure chest. and also 2 more special skills. not to mention the self replenishing "feast day gifts"

i got all the DLC ok thank you but i don't wish to cheat but thank you again since i know having a mage isn't needed i think i might end up using someone like the WarDog Sten or that Warrior Dwarf guy on my team having a mage would be helpful but i don't want to get hurt by there Area Attack spells

[dainbramage]

LightSabres wrote...

dainbramage wrote...

From a purely min-maxing standpoint, switching in Wynne for Leliana would be a good idea. Mages are kind of unarguably the best class (most fun, of course, is up for discussion. I personally prefer warriors), and you already have a lockpicker and tank. Wynne also can reach the highest spellpower of any mage (including a mage PC) if you get her early on, making her the best nuker as well as the support skills that she already comes with.

Usually it's not worth using any companions other than Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, Sten, Shale and Wynne (so long as you get the last 2 shortly after Lothering). The others just come too late, and have screwed up skills and stats when you finally get them.

There is a mod to let you re-choose your class skills...  helps make the characters you get later much more playable

I know, but I give advice based on vanilla dao, since not everyone uses mods/plays on pc/etc

[S3R10USG4M3R]

thats fine but cant you see having 1 memeber of your "tribe" lol team, being nothing but a supporter? especially on hard, tho I have never ventured, YOU set the mages tactics, I would assign self any - haste, blah blah, rock armor maybe, sleep, horror, nightmoare w/e and w/e you know the game wasnt ment to be done one way or with a certain team on hard, so you have 3 hitters, ones (mage) making them faster to strike and possibly to hit, as well as healing and so on and so forth...

I mostly see the tactic for heal being as an ally at 25% but if you raise it to 75% the mage will recover the heal spell sooner...

there is alot to think about besides your team, tactices play a great part, unless you use them all (everytime) personally..

again ser rah lol (ending 4 da2 sucked lol) GL

I will spell it out for you since I truely wish to help, a mage with an area attack spell, you can remove this from his/her's tactics menu, they will only do what you programmed them to.

Modifié par S3R10USG4M3R, 06 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[S3R10USG4M3R]

I speak the truth but fuc im drunk, I almost dropped mah keyboad lol, a big no no, it cost me enuff..

anyways, heed my call champion, your allies do what you tell them to, or what they want if you dont choose their tactics for them.

if you didnt know that, or w/e then you were doomed from the start, just as the hardest level says, its for tactical geniuses, or however you spell.. 

I can believe that, and on hard, almost as much, tho even me playing on normal I found myself wanting more tactics, there just wasnt what I wanted... well there was, but it was missing other tactics... makes me feel smart tho lol.. 

no I forget what they were, maybe I'll remember next time I start a game and am midway through. 

Modifié par S3R10USG4M3R, 06 mars 2012 - 09:57 .