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[wjbrown3]

GlassRain wrote...

, if she hadn't enthralled most of the clan with her 18 year old "charms" I'd have loved to have removed her. Come to think of it.. she wasn't even that great a healer due to her computer being built with sticks and stones.

right.. back to the topic: Alistair rulez!

Hmm 18 year old charms...wut up guild of creepy old guys

I really dig Allistar too, he has great dialogue with Ohgren as well, the conversation about polishing weapons comes to mind

[Korva]

sevenslashfour wrote...

Most of the comments complaining about Alistair have been more whiny than Alistair himself.

Go figure.

Word.

I really like the guy, in a "little brother" kind of way, and wish there was more dialog with him. I'm a lesbian and don't go for men even in games, so no" romance" here. Despite the promise of platonic friendship paths, the companions strike me as terribly uncommunicative for the most part. Sadly. Especially if they're not on your away team.

Alistair has a sense of humor, which extends to himself and isn't crude or otherwise offensive but tends to genuienly amuse me. He has a good heart and knows his limits instead of being full of himself (or full of "it"), despite his relative youth. And if you play as a "good" character which is my default, he has no problems with you at all. All in all, he's a find friend and companion, and certainly a lot more trustworthy than the many of the others.

[catofnine]

GlassRain wrote...

right.. back to the topic: Alistair rulez!

Oh whatevas.

Alistair can go die in a fire for constantly stealing all my uber killing blows on bosses.  It happens without fail.

/angry fase.

[Zibon]

ModForFun wrote...

Alister is one reason why we need permanent deaths, no knocked out revived after combat. Just cooly cut his throat and be done with him.

Or explode him into giblets

[GlassRain]

catofnine wrote...

GlassRain wrote...

right.. back to the topic: Alistair rulez!

Oh whatevas.

Alistair can go die in a fire for constantly stealing all my uber killing blows on bosses.  It happens without fail.

/angry fase.

Lol my first play through he jacked the first ogre kill.. I actually reloaded because I wanted it!

[Deviija]

I hear lots of jealousy.

[Tomark]

mmh, alistair is annoying because he always wants you to cater to his sad story.



Sten like when you go head to head with him, and shayle like you whatever you do.



Alistair, however, can't wait but say how bad his life is, and then if you don't answer that he is right but oh so strong, he gets moody.

[the1npc]

yes you are sir,

Alistair is one of my favorite characters! His funny diolouge and such

he may whine and disagree with 90% of the things I do but he is better than the lifeless boring Sten, I kicked Sten out right after Lothring such a bad character imo he also died alot for me

[Inakhia]

I never had a problem with Alistair. Keeping in mind that he is sterotypical white knight and base your decisions on that isn't too hard to figure out his responses. Then again I play with a fairly good/merciful viewpiont. Tho the few times I did just kill someone outright he didn't have an issue with, which considering the two in question, he might have said something if I *had* let them live.



Consider Alistair the "angel*" on one shoulder, Morrigan the "devil**" on the other. With the others ranged on a greyscale to some degree between them.



*"angel" stereotyping for merciful, self sacrificing, honourable and pursuit of justice.

*"devil" stereotyping as brutally practical, pursuit of personal power over welfare of others, ends justify the means mentality ect...

[kesayo2]

I hated him until I found out he was gonna be king. Then I schmoozed his ass, got into his pants, talked him into making me queen and usurped the thrown from the sissy boy.

[MasamuneSSX]

Acidsamuraix wrote...

I see a lot of Morrigan or Lelianna threads, and about keeping them happy.

I use Alistair because he's a great tank, but his attitude and self-righteousness really make me angry (in a good way). I think he is currently at like +16 for me, and I'm about halfway through the game.  Morrigan gets mad when i help pathetic people and such, but overall she's easy to entertain (+100 currently). 

But it seems like every choice I make, Alistair seems to have a problem with. I won't list any specifically, due to spoilers, but theyre sensible or the least problematic, and he still spouts his righteously blind garbage.  Heck, Lelianna is a darn Chantry priest and is still more sensible than him. At first I was worried about her, but she's forgiving.

Even in my talking with Alistair, it seems like everything I say he is either indifferent to, or it insults him.

I just want to smack that guy.

Btw, i'm not actually complaining about the game, it's like the bad guys in movies that you love to hate.  I am more complimenting Bioware on creating a character that pisses me off so much, haha.

Prepare to be violently clawed to death by a dozen screaming fangirls with long nails and flaming torches. You had it coming and its no good trying to defend your criticism of this whiny, self-righteous moron.

OHGODOHGODTHEY'REGOUGING MYEYESOUT!

[LunSei Sleidee]

Inakhia wrote...

I never had a problem with Alistair. Keeping in mind that he is sterotypical white knight and base your decisions on that isn't too hard to figure out his responses. Then again I play with a fairly good/merciful viewpiont. Tho the few times I did just kill someone outright he didn't have an issue with, which considering the two in question, he might have said something if I *had* let them live.

Consider Alistair the "angel*" on one shoulder, Morrigan the "devil**" on the other. With the others ranged on a greyscale to some degree between them.

*"angel" stereotyping for merciful, self sacrificing, honourable and pursuit of justice.
*"devil" stereotyping as brutally practical, pursuit of personal power over welfare of others, ends justify the means mentality ect...

I second all this. My views are the same as Inakhia.

I think Alistair is a wellmade character; after all every rpg needs its shiny goodygoody companion just as it needs its evil treacherous counterpart. So, kudos to Bioware for actually filling up the role of the shiny goodygoody companion with someone who is actually a funny guy, who has a sense of humour and is also made fun of by pretty much all of the other companions. Also, I don't find Alistair to be that whiny; he's just childish and kind of simpleminded, but he at last aknowledges that, himself. And don't forget that there's always the option for hilarious sarcastic answers, if he really is pissing you off.

....As a romance option, however, he totally fails. Meh. :/

[JandauX]

Alistair is a bit of a douche. He's all about nobilty and virtue, but if you don't kill someone he doesn't like, he gets all pissy. Example, Zevran. He gets pissed if you don't off a major character. And then there's the big dickmove he does late in the game (would be a spoiler) that just makes him seem like a whiny baby...

[Derengard]

I think it's weird how he considers Duncan a father figure, yet (minor/early spoiler ahead) he doesn't flinch when Duncan kills the innocent Ser Jory simply because he's friggin afraid of death. If the player would make something like this, he would earn a -10 for sure.

Modifié par Derengard, 26 novembre 2009 - 06:44 .

[arpegino]

A fatherless virgin in his mid twenties. How could he NOT ****** you off with his attitude?

[vhatever]

Duncan just wanted to see what that option did, just for the fun of it. He totally meant to reload.

[Korva]

Frankly, keeping Zevran alive is a huge gamble bordering on stupidity. There's nothing "whiny" about not trusting a hired murderer who goes from "YOU DIE NOW!" to "Can I totally be your buddy and bedwarmer?" in one solid whack of a sword. And virgin? So what? Despite what our disgustingly sex-obsessed society says, whom you f*ck or how often you f*ck has less than zero impact on one's value as a human being.

[Red-Cell]

Allister is a chump through and through. I couldn't stand him either except he was my tank. He looks goofy with his hair and is always getting his balls stepped on by someone. The part with his sister was hilarious, how he just takes it like some chump.



He's a chump

[Emryc]

I don't mind Alistair, although his whining over the loss of Duncan eventually ticked me off. His comments and interactions with the other party members are, however, priceless.



So the bottomline is: As long as he shuts his mouth about Dead Done Duncan, he's a great guy to have.

[menasure]

well Alistair does not bother me anymore ... a few good talks and conversations with him in the camp are now limited to one word responses hahaha

[Derengard]

I'm glad he's whining. It's called coherent characterisation, or something like that. His world was falling apart, so I expect this guy to be whining, or else I'd come here and complain about shallow characterisation. So there.

[lokiarchetype]

I lost my patience with him after he showed that with either decision at Redcliffe and the Landsmeet he will whine about it.



He seems to enjoy saddling you with all the decisions and responsibilities so that he can remain ever the idealist and complain about what concessions you had to make whether or not they were necessary or unavoidable.



Plot: Lesser Evil or Evil?

You: I'll take the lesser evil please

Alistair: It's still evil! wahhh wahhhh wahhh

You: Yeah, okay, and what would you have me do?

Alistair: I.... uh.... I dunno! But! There must've been something different we could've done! I just... I dunno.... Maybe you're right.



Alistair disapproves -10

[Jonfon_ire]

Lolzarius wrote...

I never got the idea of him being a wuss, merely just lack of self confidence which he got by me telling him stuff wud all be alright i liked his sarcasm and his personality

Initially I thought I was going to hate him too and there was no way him and my elven mage were going to get along. My initial thought was "Oh no, not another sanctimonious Paladin-type". But his sarcasm coupled with the underlying lack of self-confidence won him over for me.

But he's pretty well defined and by treating him as a little brother, joshing each other when talking but helping each other out when we needed it I've really warmed to him. He and Morrigan are really products of their upbringings, you can really see where their character traits stem from.

Sten on the other hand bugs the crap outta me. "No!". Joyless lump of meat. 

[stevebo77]

I (as the guy behind the keyboard) enjoy him very much! He has some of the more enjoyable lines in the game dialog for me. But my character no longer benefits from those witty quips anymore

I think Ali broke up with me after I took a hard line against a certain demonchild and no amount of shiny presents bring him back from his cold tones and short answers anymore hehe.

Ah well we'll always have our shared nightmares, Alistair, and you can't take those away from me.

[Aeshyn Stormsinger]

catofnine wrote...

Alistair can go die in a fire for constantly stealing all my uber killing blows on bosses.  It happens without fail.

/angry fase.

You know you could have just clicked the button to stop party members moving, swapped to Alistair and run him back real quickly, then swap to main character and finish them off?

Onto the topic, I don't mind Alistair, personally.  Sometimes his humour is a welcome lightening to the overall mood of the situation, and at other times inappropriate and unwanted.  Either way, I tolerate his presence as a tank.