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Seriously, why does my renegede Shepard that kills people for fun care about a kid?


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Comrade Goby

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My Shepard let innocent people burn alive (Zaeed loyalty mission) , got most of his sqaud killed, murdered countless defenseless people and yet this one kid makes him so emotionally distraught that he CRYS EVERY TIEM and has bad dreams about the kid?

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MythicLegands

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Shepard belongs to Bioware now.

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G3rman

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MythicLegands wrote...

Shepard belongs to Bioware now.


He always did, you are just realizing this now.

Oh and OP,

Its because BioWare doesn't write renegades as killing people for fun, you just think its fun.  You in fact are the messed up one, not Shepard.

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Your Shepard doesn't kill people for fun. Nobodies Shepard does. Your Shepard is a person, even at max renegade, who believes he has to do what it takes to destroy the Reapers and to ensure humanities survival.

Nothing about that prohibits him from feeling emotion, or having a breaking point.

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Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.

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I actually been thinking about that for a bit myself OP. I mean, someone who will do anything to complete the mission even killing innocents would care about one child's death... And even then, why just the one? The Reapers are attacking earth so they would be more then one child that has died during the Reaper's invasion of earth.

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G3rman wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

Shepard belongs to Bioware now.


He always did, you are just realizing this now.

Oh and OP,

Its because BioWare doesn't write renegades as killing people for fun, you just think its fun.  You in fact are the messed up one, not Shepard.


you haven't played pure renegade, shep does kill for fun, and two bioware said that Shepard was mine.

Modifié par MythicLegands, 05 mars 2012 - 09:05 .


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dw99027 wrote...

Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.


That's right OP. You've been playing your RPG incorrectly.

You sick bastard.

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Kyzo wrote...

I actually been thinking about that for a bit myself OP. I mean, someone who will do anything to complete the mission even killing innocents would care about one child's death... And even then, why just the one? The Reapers are attacking earth so they would be more then one child that has died during the Reaper's invasion of earth.


The artbook clearly specifies why "that one." 

He embodies all of humanity. He's not upset about the the loss of that one child, but the guilt over being unable to stop the invasion in the first place, and feeling the pressures of the entire galaxy on his shoulders.

He's crumbling, and falling prey to his emotions.

Believe it or not, even the most hardened soldiers are still people, still feel, still care.

Unless your one of those types that believe things like PTSD aren't real. :?

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MythicLegands wrote...

you haven't played pure renegade, shep does kill for fun, and two bioware said that Shepard was mine.


Please cite one example in any game where Shepard either:
1) Kills an innocent person.
2) Says after killing a person that he did it for fun.


You can't. He doesn't kill for fun. Even in his most hardcore ruthless guy-through-window moments, he never becomes a sociopath. 

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.


That's right OP. You've been playing your RPG incorrectly.

You sick bastard.

:lol: This is great.

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.


That's right OP. You've been playing your RPG incorrectly.

You sick bastard.

Agreed. Shep is a soldier, and he wants to prevent the Reapers from destroying the Galaxy. He's portrayed and emoted by a specific actor. If anyone thought he's a blank slate that the player shapes in his/her image, he's misinterpreting the level of control he gets. 

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Allworkandlowpay wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

you haven't played pure renegade, shep does kill for fun, and two bioware said that Shepard was mine.


Please cite one example in any game where Shepard either:
1) Kills an innocent person.
2) Says after killing a person that he did it for fun.


You can't. He doesn't kill for fun. Even in his most hardcore ruthless guy-through-window moments, he never becomes a sociopath. 



On Noveria you can get the investigator killed  then lie about it then walk out like nothing happened.

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dw99027 wrote...

Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.

Nop. He is doing this thing called role-playing.
Crazy, rait? I mean, who does that in a rpg?

Modifié par Xayoz, 05 mars 2012 - 09:15 .


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dw99027 wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.


That's right OP. You've been playing your RPG incorrectly.

You sick bastard.

Agreed. Shep is a soldier, and he wants to prevent the Reapers from destroying the Galaxy. He's portrayed and emoted by a specific actor. If anyone thought he's a blank slate that the player shapes in his/her image, he's misinterpreting the level of control he gets. 


I remember Bioware marketing Shepard as mine(cleary they only meant if I play pargon)

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Comrade Goby wrote...

My Shepard let innocent people burn alive (Zaeed loyalty mission) , got most of his sqaud killed, murdered countless defenseless people and yet this one kid makes him so emotionally distraught that he CRYS EVERY TIEM and has bad dreams about the kid?



Renegade does not mean psychopathic murderer.

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Xayoz wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.

Nop. He is doing this thing called role-playing.
Crazy, rait? :?

You want absolute freedom in creating a character? Play PnP. You want an engrossing story and deep character interactions delivered through gigs of recorded and voice-directed dialogue? Deal with limitations. I swear, people think devs just pull games out of a wishing well..

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dw99027 wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.


That's right OP. You've been playing your RPG incorrectly.

You sick bastard.

Agreed. Shep is a soldier, and he wants to prevent the Reapers from destroying the Galaxy. He's portrayed and emoted by a specific actor. If anyone thought he's a blank slate that the player shapes in his/her image, he's misinterpreting the level of control he gets. 


Clearly sarcasm escapes you.

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dw99027 wrote...

You want an engrossing story and deep character interactions delivered through gigs of recorded and voice-directed dialogue? Deal with limitations.


Limitations != completely predefined character.

Modifié par Xayoz, 05 mars 2012 - 09:26 .


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MythicLegands wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.


That's right OP. You've been playing your RPG incorrectly.

You sick bastard.

Agreed. Shep is a soldier, and he wants to prevent the Reapers from destroying the Galaxy. He's portrayed and emoted by a specific actor. If anyone thought he's a blank slate that the player shapes in his/her image, he's misinterpreting the level of control he gets. 


I remember Bioware marketing Shepard as mine(cleary they only meant if I play pargon)

They lied. The same way every add on TV is a lie, to some extent. I still buy my favorite yogurt , even if it's not gonna make me shed 20 pounds. You choose whether you buy the product or not. Do your research and decide.

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dw99027 wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.


That's right OP. You've been playing your RPG incorrectly.

You sick bastard.

Agreed. Shep is a soldier, and he wants to prevent the Reapers from destroying the Galaxy. He's portrayed and emoted by a specific actor. If anyone thought he's a blank slate that the player shapes in his/her image, he's misinterpreting the level of control he gets. 


I remember Bioware marketing Shepard as mine(cleary they only meant if I play pargon)

They lied. The same way every add on TV is a lie, to some extent. I still buy my favorite yogurt , even if it's not gonna make me shed 20 pounds. You choose whether you buy the product or not. Do your research and decide.


But all my research comes from the marketing team.( how I'm I supossed to know about their product) :<

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.


That's right OP. You've been playing your RPG incorrectly.

You sick bastard.

Agreed. Shep is a soldier, and he wants to prevent the Reapers from destroying the Galaxy. He's portrayed and emoted by a specific actor. If anyone thought he's a blank slate that the player shapes in his/her image, he's misinterpreting the level of control he gets. 


Clearly sarcasm escapes you.

My using 'agreed' was the very definition of sarcasm. It's always fun when people fall for it.

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MythicLegands wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.


That's right OP. You've been playing your RPG incorrectly.

You sick bastard.

Agreed. Shep is a soldier, and he wants to prevent the Reapers from destroying the Galaxy. He's portrayed and emoted by a specific actor. If anyone thought he's a blank slate that the player shapes in his/her image, he's misinterpreting the level of control he gets. 


I remember Bioware marketing Shepard as mine(cleary they only meant if I play pargon)

They lied. The same way every add on TV is a lie, to some extent. I still buy my favorite yogurt , even if it's not gonna make me shed 20 pounds. You choose whether you buy the product or not. Do your research and decide.


But all my research comes from the marketing team.( how I'm I supossed to know about their product) :<


go take a tour of the yogurt factory and cound the ratio of fat people to slim ones.

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

dw99027 wrote...

Yup. OP, you're really misinterpreting your own character.


That's right OP. You've been playing your RPG incorrectly.

You sick bastard.


That's pretty good. :lol:

To answer the OP's question: hypocrisy.

Modifié par SaY4cT, 05 mars 2012 - 09:34 .


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Modifié par SaY4cT, 05 mars 2012 - 09:33 .