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[AkiKishi]

Tazzmission wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

Until you realize that Garrus and tali die of starvation, and the colony is made from inbreeding.

um dude quit making stuff up because that hasent been proven

That is the likely outcome if you go by the lore. Unless someone stumbles across them they are boned. It's not like anyone is going to be looking because if you watch the cinematic the conclusion is they go boom!

They are going to get filed as KIA and starvation inbreeding will comence.

like i said no evidence what so ever

me2 should make you realize this since they killed shepard and ressurected him

whos to say it couldnt happen for normandy and crew 

There is no evidence for anything else either. If you add nothing to the endgame events, there is your "solution" evidence or not because it's the only outcome that can happen that fits those events.

It's distasteful, but that is what the ending leaves us with. Although the Merge ending might be different.

[Svest]

BobSmith101 wrote...

That is the likely outcome if you go by the lore. Unless someone stumbles across them they are boned. It's not like anyone is going to be looking because if you watch the cinematic the conclusion is they go boom!

They are going to get filed as KIA and starvation inbreeding will comence.

Even if people aren't looking for the Normandy specifically they will still be scouring the galaxy for habitable planets.  Even if Earth survives it really wasn't in great shape before the Reapers arrived.  There certainly won't be any shortage of ships around Earth to use for exploring.  It might take a few years, possibly even decades, but eventually someone could easily stumble across them.

[curelightwounds]

Svest wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

That is the likely outcome if you go by the lore. Unless someone stumbles across them they are boned. It's not like anyone is going to be looking because if you watch the cinematic the conclusion is they go boom!

They are going to get filed as KIA and starvation inbreeding will comence.

Even if people aren't looking for the Normandy specifically they will still be scouring the galaxy for habitable planets.  Even if Earth survives it really wasn't in great shape before the Reapers arrived.  There certainly won't be any shortage of ships around Earth to use for exploring.  It might take a few years, possibly even decades, but eventually someone could easily stumble across them.

I guess, but we're essentially writing fanfiction at this point.

[Svest]

curelightwounds wrote...

I guess, but we're essentially writing fanfiction at this point.

No more so than assuming the inbreeding scenario.  I'm not saying either one is correct.  Just that one is not the only possible outcome (or most likely at least IMO).

[AkiKishi]

Svest wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

That is the likely outcome if you go by the lore. Unless someone stumbles across them they are boned. It's not like anyone is going to be looking because if you watch the cinematic the conclusion is they go boom!

They are going to get filed as KIA and starvation inbreeding will comence.

Even if people aren't looking for the Normandy specifically they will still be scouring the galaxy for habitable planets.  Even if Earth survives it really wasn't in great shape before the Reapers arrived.  There certainly won't be any shortage of ships around Earth to use for exploring.  It might take a few years, possibly even decades, but eventually someone could easily stumble across them.

Not for a while, they will be too busy cleaning up the mess and trying to restore order. That will take decades,plus all ships are configured for gate travel, they don't carry fuel (see ME2) or food stores for normal FTL travel.

You can make up any sort of plausible scenerio but the one left based soley on what is seen in the end game is not pleasant.

Although our LIFE CONTINUES THROUGH INBREEDING thread was funny (until it got locked).

[Luke eckel]

I personally like the endings as well. I just wish there was an ending where the normany crew didn't get stranded.

[Svest]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Not for a while, they will be too busy cleaning up the mess and trying to restore order. That will take decades,plus all ships are configured for gate travel, they don't carry fuel (see ME2) or food stores for normal FTL travel.

You can make up any sort of plausible scenerio but the one left based soley on what is seen in the end game is not pleasant.

Although our LIFE CONTINUES THROUGH INBREEDING thread was funny (until it got locked).

Actually, I would expect the Quarian and Turian ships stuck around Earth to immediately begin exploring.  They can't find food on Earth.  They need to find somewhere they can get food.  Likely many of them will starve before they do, unless the Quarians brought their food-growing ships to the battle for some reason.

Based on what is in the game though, all we see is a) the Normandy crashed on some planet, and then there was a colony on it years later.  Any scenario about how things progressed from a to b are just as made up as any other.  The inbreeding scenario is one possible outcome.  There are a number of other equally plausible scenarios as well.

[KillSlash45]

curelightwounds wrote...

"I expected that ending"

"It's a fitting end"

"We all knew it had to be this way"

You know what? That's fine for you. If that's how you expected this game to end then congratulation a winner is you!

The fact is, clearly not everyone expected that ending and a lot of people expected, at the very least least, two distinct conclusions and not three vaguely dissimilar ones.

I like how I took the time to make a comment that I understand the frustrations of those who didn't like it, yet i still get snapped at. ....... 

Modifié par KillSlash45, 05 mars 2012 - 07:49 .

[Warhawk137]

I think it's generally unclear, and that's causing a lot of theories to spring up. Once I play the game I'll make up my mind for myself.

[KillSlash45]

Marta Rio wrote...

I'm just curious, OP (and other people who liked the endings) - do you feel more like:
(a) "The endings are super great and very close to what I wanted to see!"
or
( "Meh, I like them well enough to be satisfied, but they could have been done better."

Honestly I'm satisfied with them. In any game I can usually think of ways I would have preferred the story to end.

In this case I'm happy enough with the endings.

I fully understand why everyone's upset. I'm not going to pidgeon hole them into wanting rainbows and puppies like some others have.

Modifié par KillSlash45, 05 mars 2012 - 07:30 .

[marstor05]

i just wanna play the game. the endings meh, then it'll get put away with all the other disappointing PS3 games i've got like Haze.

just trying to find a copy will be tough. neither game nor gamestation are doin it so it'll have to be supermarket or blockbuster.

[AkiKishi]

Svest wrote...
Actually, I would expect the Quarian and Turian ships stuck around Earth to immediately begin exploring.  They can't find food on Earth.  They need to find somewhere they can get food.  Likely many of them will starve before they do, unless the Quarians brought their food-growing ships to the battle for some reason.

Based on what is in the game though, all we see is a) the Normandy crashed on some planet, and then there was a colony on it years later.  Any scenario about how things progressed from a to b are just as made up as any other.  The inbreeding scenario is one possible outcome.  There are a number of other equally plausible scenarios as well.

They would have to bring food ships with them or they all starve too. The gates exploding cuts them off from thier planets.

I agree there are many plausible scenerios but only one if you add nothing to the events as presented in the game.

[Urazz]

I certainly don't mind the Normandy crashing and the crew survive somewhere stranded. The entire ending is open ended enough that we have no idea how things truly are.

Hell, how fast is traditional FTL in the Mass Effect series? They may be able to get from system to system in months to a few years at the shortest for all we could know.

That would make things more similar to how things were on Earth back when the American Continents were first discovered. It took months to get to them from Europe.

Space Travel would be feasible this way and while things would be hampered greatly, they wouldn't be a complete disaster.

Modifié par Urazz, 05 mars 2012 - 07:32 .

[AkiKishi]

Urazz wrote...

I certainly don't mind the Normandy crashing and the crew survive somewhere stranded. The entire ending is open ended enough that we have no idea how things truly are.

Hell, how fast is traditional FTL in the Mass Effect series? They may be able to get from system to system in months to a few years at the shortest for all we could know.

That would make things more similar to how things were on Earth back when the American Continents were first discovered. It took months to get to them from Europe.

Space Travel would be feasible this way and while things would be hampered greatly, they wouldn't be a complete disaster.

Remember playing ME2 and burning fuel while traveling within a system?

[Warhawk137]

Urazz wrote...

Hell, how fast is traditional FTL in the Mass Effect series? They may be able to get from system to system in months to a few years at the shortest for all we could know.

That would make things more similar to how things were on Earth back when the American Continents were first discovered. It took months to get to them from Europe.

Space Travel would be feasible this way and while things would be hampered greatly, they wouldn't be a complete disaster.

12 light years per day.  That's about 8 hours to the nearest system from earth (Alpha Centauri), with about 2 dozen systems within 1 day of travel, 2 months or so to Bekenstein, 4 months or so to Noveria.

[Warhawk137]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Remember playing ME2 and burning fuel while traveling within a system?

Gameplay/story segregation.  Game mechanics are pretty low on the totem pole as far as reliable sources for canon go.

[WizenSlinky0]

KillSlash45 wrote...

curelightwounds wrote...

"I expected that ending"

"It's a fitting end"

"We all knew it had to be this way"

You know what? That's fine for you. If that's how you expected this game to end then congratulation a winner is you!

The fact is, clearly not everyone expected that ending and a lot of people expected, at the very least least, two distinct conclusions and not three vaguely dissimilar ones.

I like how I took the time to make a comment that I understand the frustrations of those who like it, yet i still get snapped at. ....... 

Welcome to the internet.

For what it's worth thank you for being one of the few on the "rational discussion" side of things and disagreeing in a civil manner.

[AkiKishi]

Warhawk137 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Remember playing ME2 and burning fuel while traveling within a system?

Gameplay/story segregation.  Game mechanics are pretty low on the totem pole as far as reliable sources for canon go.

Ships don't carry enough fuel. Is that better ?

[Svest]

BobSmith101 wrote...

They would have to bring food ships with them or they all starve too. The gates exploding cuts them off from thier planets.

I agree there are many plausible scenerios but only one if you add nothing to the events as presented in the game.

Another plausible scenario if you add nothing to the events of the game is simply that the Normandy survivers chose not to turn to inbreeding in the hopes of being rescued.  We have no idea how many years after the crash the grandfather and child scene took place.  For all we know the grandfather could have been on the Normandy.  There is no way to tell.  

Maybe the colony will die out soon if not rescued.  Maybe it has already been rescued.  Maybe they turned to inbreeding to keep the colony going in case it doesn't get rescued.  Any assumption of any one of these outcomes is just that, nothing more than an assumption.

About the Turians and Quarians, of course the gates exploding cuts them off from their home planets.  But who is to say there is not a planet somewhere within a few weeks or months of Earth where they could find some food?  I have no idea if there is one to be found, but I'm fairly certain they would start looking.

[Foxhound2020]

That's the problem. An ending that is unclear is not an ending, and that is why I don't like it.

I thought we were told that we would know how everything would wrap up from the developers. The fact that no one has a clue is not really an ending.

[SJK93]

I've come to accept most of it, but the "teleporting" as people are calling it is still bugging me. The way I look at it is it never actually happened, and whoever you brought on the final mission never ended up on the Normandy, regardless of what appears in the cutscene.

Modifié par SJK93, 05 mars 2012 - 11:55 .

[Hexxys]

I really have to question Bioware's judgement on a great deal of issues regarding the ending. They claimed there would be no loose ends, but all they managed to do with these endings is open up a new can of worms. It's not surprising, considering how far they deviated from any established ME lore.

[XGrlGamerX]

I'm not sure how I feel about the ending. I just beat it. I think the decision was pretty intense, but I only have seen the one ending. It appears that no matter what the Normandy crash lands.

My biggest beef is why did I spend my last minutes with Anderson, a man who I spent so little time with in the entire franchise? Should have chose someone to go up there with you.

Modifié par XGrlGamerX, 06 mars 2012 - 05:03 .

[silverspirit2001]

Their is only one problem with the ending. Actually two. 

First, the ending is too mature for the average fanboi. I loved the ending, because it presented a moral quandry - even though the chioces was limited, in life it is like that. And Shepard dying! Wonderful, bold, but way too signposted. Here was role playing to the extreme - you got to choose how your character reacts. It does not matter if the results are simular, it is your motivation which determines your choices. 

The only problem was the normandy crashlanding. I think that was added at the last moment because bioware were afraid of not giving people some resolution to other characters. A big mistake. Without that ending, half the complaints would be gone, and the original ending (post credits) generic ending would have sufficed. 


And PS, for those who hated the ending, read between the lines in the conversation with the AI, to understand its significance. 

[MrChowderClam]

I didn't expect the endings to be like that, but I liked them (picked merge first. Paragade to the end...). Just wish we could ask more questions to the stupid kid at the end. Maybe you can and my score wasn't high enough?

I wonder if there is a hidden NG+ ending hehe.