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[Spaceguy5]

On the mission on Mars, Shepard and Co. are switching between wearing pressure suit helmets and wearing none inside the atmosphere inside the outpost quite frequently. Wouldn't they get the bends? D= On real space missions, astronauts have to go through hours of breathing in pure oxygen (to get nitrogen bubbles out of their body) before they can safely enter a pressure suit, otherwise they'd get the bends and....... yeah. But pressurizing the atmosphere inside the outpost with pure oxygen could be a safety hazard (which is why spacecraft usually use a mix of nitogren and oxygen, like on Earth). It'd make more sense for the squad to stay in their pressure suit constantly.

/accuracyNitpick

[NubXL]

*insert futuristic spacey scifi solution*

[demicraftgod]

Unfortunately, mass effect is never a *hard* sci-fi type of game. So you have to go with the so-called *space magic*

[Spaceguy5]

demicraftgod wrote...

Unfortunately, mass effect is never a *hard* sci-fi type of game. So you have to go with the so-called *space magic*

</3......

[demicraftgod]

You should've seen that coming when you see people in breathers in ME2...yeah...
I was like hmm...okay...I'll play on and imagine that they all wear proper *space suits*/*armors*

[Spaceguy5]

"What? Liara is just wearing a clear plastic thing that looks like a respirator? But if we're in near-vacuum, wouldn't the lack of pressure damage her tissue--particularly her eyes? Hay, lol, I just noticed, her name is like, Liar, with an a at the end! Oh look, more troopers!"

[ZNahum]

Spaceguy5 wrote...

"What? Liara is just wearing a clear plastic thing that looks like a respirator? But if we're in near-vacuum, wouldn't the lack of pressure damage her tissue--particularly her eyes? Hay, lol, I just noticed, her name is like, Liar, with an a at the end! Oh look, more troopers!"

This is the same for Meranda in ME2. Lets say that their biotic barriors protect them from the extreme enviromental and space conditions.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

ZNahum wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

"What? Liara is just wearing a clear plastic thing that looks like a respirator? But if we're in near-vacuum, wouldn't the lack of pressure damage her tissue--particularly her eyes? Hay, lol, I just noticed, her name is like, Liar, with an a at the end! Oh look, more troopers!"

This is the same for Meranda in ME2. Lets say that their biotic barriors protect them from the extreme enviromental and space conditions.

This.  Not to sound rude, but it's the best we got!

[Sokroc04]

Space magic... if only we knew...

[stuffingam]

I think Kinetic Barriers is what prevents the damage.

[Xarathox]

Spaceguy5 wrote...

"What? Liara is just wearing a clear plastic thing that looks like a respirator? But if we're in near-vacuum, wouldn't the lack of pressure damage her tissue--particularly her eyes? Hay, lol, I just noticed, her name is like, Liar, with an a at the end! Oh look, more troopers!"

Mars has an atmosphere composed mostly of carbon dioxide. It's thin, but still has slight pressure (about 6 bars compared to 1000 bars on earth). Technically one could survive without a pressure suit, but only for about 2 to 3 minutes since without proper pressure, oxygen will evaporate through the skin.

Space magic is what we got to go by...

[Adugan]

Space magic can be explained by nanotechnology and the application of space magic.

[Dendio1]

Spaceguy5 wrote...

"What? Liara is just wearing a clear plastic thing that looks like a respirator? But if we're in near-vacuum, wouldn't the lack of pressure damage her tissue--particularly her eyes? Hay, lol, I just noticed, her name is like, Liar, with an a at the end! Oh look, more troopers!"

Its too late for you to .....

I refuse to look at hher name as liar a......i should go to sleep

[Fat Headed Wolf]

Xarathox wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

"What? Liara is just wearing a clear plastic thing that looks like a respirator? But if we're in near-vacuum, wouldn't the lack of pressure damage her tissue--particularly her eyes? Hay, lol, I just noticed, her name is like, Liar, with an a at the end! Oh look, more troopers!"

Mars has an atmosphere composed mostly of carbon dioxide. It's thin, but still has slight pressure (about 6 bars compared to 1000 bars on earth). Technically one could survive without a pressure suit, but only for about 2 to 3 minutes since without proper pressure, oxygen will evaporate through the skin.

Space magic is what we got to go by...

I'm sorry. All I could think about during that post was that scene from "Total Recall" where Arnold's eyes bulge out all gross....

"START DA REACTOR!!!!" 

[Imp of the Perverse]

I'm not sure about the whole "wearing breathers in space" thing, but I don't see any problems with switching between pressurized space suits and pressurized Mars research facilities - it's the future, the space suits are probably able to keep you at one atmosphere of pressure, likewise with the base. You only get the bends if you transition between two drastically different pressures.

[OchreJelly]

While I get the nitpick... I don't think having a stringent waiting period before being able to go into space each time would be all that gameplay-friendly. It'd probably be a major immersion breaker and drama slower-downer. \\o/

Also on that subject, Shepards who don't use helmets in combat are asking for insta-death. All because you had to see that red-hair...

So yeah, I'm with the guy who suggested kinetic or biotic barriers somehow help. 

Modifié par OchreJelly, 02 avril 2012 - 08:49 .

[tenojitsu]

I'm guessing the pressure inside the suit and inside the complex is fairly similiar so I doubt they would get the bends.

[Xarathox]

Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

"What? Liara is just wearing a clear plastic thing that looks like a respirator? But if we're in near-vacuum, wouldn't the lack of pressure damage her tissue--particularly her eyes? Hay, lol, I just noticed, her name is like, Liar, with an a at the end! Oh look, more troopers!"

Mars has an atmosphere composed mostly of carbon dioxide. It's thin, but still has slight pressure (about 6 bars compared to 1000 bars on earth). Technically one could survive without a pressure suit, but only for about 2 to 3 minutes since without proper pressure, oxygen will evaporate through the skin.

Space magic is what we got to go by...

I'm sorry. All I could think about during that post was that scene from "Total Recall" where Arnold's eyes bulge out all gross....

"START DA REACTOR!!!!" 

Haha, yeah...hollywood tends to exagerate reality sometimes.

[KillerHappyFace]

Spaceguy5 wrote...

On the mission on Mars, Shepard and Co. are switching between wearing pressure suit helmets and wearing none inside the atmosphere inside the outpost quite frequently. Wouldn't they get the bends? D= On real space missions, astronauts have to go through hours of breathing in pure oxygen (to get nitrogen bubbles out of their body) before they can safely enter a pressure suit, otherwise they'd get the bends and....... yeah. But pressurizing the atmosphere inside the outpost with pure oxygen could be a safety hazard (which is why spacecraft usually use a mix of nitogren and oxygen, like on Earth). It'd make more sense for the squad to stay in their pressure suit constantly.

/accuracyNitpick

They're pressure suits. Pressure suits don't mean a lot of pressure, they just mean that they could maintain a different pressure than the surroundings. Presumably the suits and the station both maintain ~1 atm for comfort reasons, so continuing to be pressurized would be pointless. This is why the helmets are taken off when inside.

You don't get the bends from staying at the same pressure.

Regardless, I'd be more concerned about where the helmets come from.

[KillerHappyFace]

Xarathox wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

"What? Liara is just wearing a clear plastic thing that looks like a respirator? But if we're in near-vacuum, wouldn't the lack of pressure damage her tissue--particularly her eyes? Hay, lol, I just noticed, her name is like, Liar, with an a at the end! Oh look, more troopers!"

Mars has an atmosphere composed mostly of carbon dioxide. It's thin, but still has slight pressure (about 6 bars compared to 1000 bars on earth). Technically one could survive without a pressure suit, but only for about 2 to 3 minutes since without proper pressure, oxygen will evaporate through the skin.

Space magic is what we got to go by...

I think it's mentioned somewhere that shields and barriers can create a pressurized 'envelope', in which case only an air source is needed. Anything to prevent the cast from hiding their pretty faces.

[Xarathox]

KillerHappyFace wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

"What? Liara is just wearing a clear plastic thing that looks like a respirator? But if we're in near-vacuum, wouldn't the lack of pressure damage her tissue--particularly her eyes? Hay, lol, I just noticed, her name is like, Liar, with an a at the end! Oh look, more troopers!"

Mars has an atmosphere composed mostly of carbon dioxide. It's thin, but still has slight pressure (about 6 bars compared to 1000 bars on earth). Technically one could survive without a pressure suit, but only for about 2 to 3 minutes since without proper pressure, oxygen will evaporate through the skin.

Space magic is what we got to go by...

I think it's mentioned somewhere that shields and barriers can create a pressurized 'envelope', in which case only an air source is needed. Anything to prevent the cast from hiding their pretty faces.

[wryterra]

Spaceguy5 wrote...

On the mission on Mars, Shepard and Co. are switching between wearing pressure suit helmets and wearing none inside the atmosphere inside the outpost quite frequently. Wouldn't they get the bends? D= On real space missions, astronauts have to go through hours of breathing in pure oxygen (to get nitrogen bubbles out of their body) before they can safely enter a pressure suit, otherwise they'd get the bends and....... yeah. But pressurizing the atmosphere inside the outpost with pure oxygen could be a safety hazard (which is why spacecraft usually use a mix of nitogren and oxygen, like on Earth). It'd make more sense for the squad to stay in their pressure suit constantly.

/accuracyNitpick

In the Mass Effect universe there's been years of terraforming on Mars. It's a long way from habitable but it's not a vacuum so the comparisan with astronauts in the vacuum of space is not viable. 

That dust storm, after all, requires wind and atmosphere. 

[KaeserZen]

Some of the Space Magic comments are really getting out of hand. While I feel they are appropriate for the ending, I would like to remind that trying to tear apart every scientific aspect of the Mass Effect series is very ridiculous.

Mass Effect is "Science Fiction", which has got both Science AND Fiction in it. As such, some suspension of disbelief is needed.

My gripe is that while people complain about the fact that about every explanation nicely given by the fans to try to put everything together within the boundaries and the lore of the universe is being cast aside as "Space Magic"...

Yet, these same people are pretty comfortable with Biotics, the mass effect in general, and the existence of element zero... Come on, element zero is an atom with an atomic number of 0, aka 0 protons, aka a set of neutrons. At best, it could be a negative ion with no proton, but still, that's far from realistic.

It was very clear from the beginning that the Mass Effect series was not there to unfold within a realistic sciency theme with everything explained. It was more designed as a "beleivable" universe compared to more far fetched science fiction universes. The developpers didn't have in mind to use mass effect as a paper on potential application of technology based on current scientific advancement, so give them and the fans a little respect !

I would like to conclude by remining that advanced technology will be undistinguishable from magic by a lesser technology advanced species, so, of course we aren't getting to have explanations explainable using our current scientific framework.

[Xarathox]

wryterra wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

On the mission on Mars, Shepard and Co. are switching between wearing pressure suit helmets and wearing none inside the atmosphere inside the outpost quite frequently. Wouldn't they get the bends? D= On real space missions, astronauts have to go through hours of breathing in pure oxygen (to get nitrogen bubbles out of their body) before they can safely enter a pressure suit, otherwise they'd get the bends and....... yeah. But pressurizing the atmosphere inside the outpost with pure oxygen could be a safety hazard (which is why spacecraft usually use a mix of nitogren and oxygen, like on Earth). It'd make more sense for the squad to stay in their pressure suit constantly.

/accuracyNitpick

In the Mass Effect universe there's been years of terraforming on Mars. It's a long way from habitable but it's not a vacuum so the comparisan with astronauts in the vacuum of space is not viable. 

That dust storm, after all, requires wind and atmosphere. 

Wind and atmosphere, which already exists on mars at this time, as I've previously stated in this thread. :3

[Element Zero]

I was mildly annoyed (very mildly) when I saw the return of Liara's respirator mask. I figured everyone had ****ed enough about ME2 that we'd see the return of full helmets. Obviously, I was wrong.

Modifié par tallrickruush, 02 avril 2012 - 09:36 .