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[Hennex]

I'm at Stage-0, I guess, for I liked every minute of the ending and was very some-what satisfied. I admit, I was expecting more...closure? But I really liked the ending, even though I haven't seen two of the three.

Modifié par Avian005, 08 mars 2012 - 11:44 .

[N7 Banshee Bait]

My ending either doesn't make any sense or just flat out sucks. I chose to take control of the Reapers, I saved life across the galaxy, but the mass relays had to be destroyed.

Why did the mass relays have to be destroyed?

How the hell are the non-humans supposed to get back to their home planets now? They're all stuck on Earth?

I had EDI & Liara on my team in the final battle. How the hell did they end up on the Normandy with Joker? 

And where the hell was Joker going with the Normandy? Wasn't he supposed to be in Earth's orbit with the rest of the fleet?

What the hell happened to all the other characters??? 

Modifié par Steelgrave, 08 mars 2012 - 12:03 .

[RaduM]

Stage 3 - Bargaining for myself

[Zered]

Stage 2: Anger

Bioware this is the last time you got any money out of me! I do hope the gods of vengeance will feast on bioware writers little kitties.

[Bereman08]

Anger. More anger than I've felt toward a video game before, honestly. I just don't get mad at how stories are told, and can typically go along with the story and see where it goes. Critical, perhaps, particularly of loopholes (which is another matter entirely here), but not mad.

I am well and truly mad at the ending, which is made worse by the fact that I so thoroughly enjoyed the game up until those last twenty minutes or so. Didn't Shepard go through enough pain, enough hurt, even dying once, fighting for the galaxy for so long, putting everything on the line...and in my Shep's case loosing touch then finally rekindling a relationship with the love of his life (Ash) only to have it ripped from him by some Deus Ex ending that was not satisfying in any way, shape, or form and provided no closue? Yeah, I wanted Shep to save the galaxy and settle down, I'd been assuming that was at least one kind of ending available (ultimately death as the darkest ending) since I first played the game back in 2009. I think the worst thing was seeing my Shep's LI on whatever god forsaken planet that was...I was seriously hoping for a happy ending there, or at least room for one by having her still be on Earth. They both deserved that much.

Nope. Nice sucker punch there, Bioware.

This is the series where I played ME2 for 28 straight hours, no sleep, to finish it...slept that off...then started up a second save file shortly after waking up. Now? I might come back to this, to experience conversations/relationships with other characters, and at least multiplayer is fun, but I am sure as hell not finishing again.

So yeah...definitely Stage Anger right now.

[mopotter]

Well, anger that I spent so much money on a game I'm not going to be playing more than once or twice, and acceptance that I can no longer trust a company I had always enjoyed so no longer have that pre-order need. On the other hand, I'll save some money.

It's not feelings that will go away in a few weeks. I've had authors I enjoyed who changed their style and I no longer read their books, even though I've heard they have gone back to their original style of writing. It's too late. Trust is hard to earn and easy to lose. Mine has been lost.

[Militarized]

Rage.. rage and some more rage, mixed with despair.

[RPGmom28]

I don't see how hard it would have been for the love interest at least to be stranded with Shepard.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

I guess bargaining counts as a stage, but I'm not in grief, nor was I when the endings leaked. I just bargain all the time, for everything.

[Evil_medved]

I just needed ~10 hours to hit 5. Now i actually enthusiastic about green ending which probably is less utopic of them all. Reapers made that mess, and they gonna fix everything. Absence of mass-relays is not as bad if you have friendly fleet of super-fast ships who actually can build those mass-relays and have space station that can be hub for them.

[SomeBug]

Which stage is the one where you feel some sympathy and pity for the writers.

I mean, to have half a decade of work undone by one error. To have the entire experience soured for so many people by a misjudged ending.

And I can't imagine it was a group decision. There's one guy who wrote that ending and a writing team of half a dozen. They must be sitting around feeling sick that the lasting impression of five years of their hard work is, for a lot of people but not all people, one of annoyance, confusion and disbelief.

I mean, if they wanted a bleak ending. That's fine by me. But commit to it please, don't leave it so ambiguous. There's no closure in ME3. None at all. It just leaves you feeling like the rug has been pulled from under all of your emotional investment in the series.

I just feel sad for them. The legacy of such a near perfect game series, one that has defined and rejuvenated an entire genre of gaming, their legacy will be the last two minutes of a hundred-hour experience. What a shame.

[Blindspy]

Spent a few hours in stage 2 (anger), skipped phase 3 (bargaining), and am now stuck in stage 4 (depression).  The game itself was just so incredibly good... it was everything I dreamed it would be, up until the very end.  Ugh, I feel so defeated.

In capitalist America, game beats you!

[Merengues 1945]

You can tell anything you want, but I actually liked the ending, I didn't get the perfect ending (Just the green one)... but I like the choice of synthesis.

Yes, the game have a lot of bad things, yes it could be better, yes the money interest mess with the game, Yes I'm frackin angry that I just got 2944 EMS and I lost Anderson... but hey, if you see this story as wath it is, then you realize that it's a great story.

I just jumped from 0 to 10, yeah, I kinda hate bioware, but I liked ME3.

[SomeBug]

That's precisely why people are so annoyed by the end.

If the rest of the game was crap, we'd be over it sooner. It could just be a footnote in their catalog of games.

I don't really care anymore that I didn't enjoy DA2 at all. It was annoying at the time but hey, you win some you lose some.

But for Mass Effect to come so close to perfection it is soul crushing to know that the lasting emotion for a lot of people is confusion and anger.

Literally everything in the entire series, from ME1 through 2 and all the way through 3 is just amazing. The story builds flawlessly to the grand ending that everyone wanted. And it delivers superbly.

Everything up to the Illusive Man conversation, Anderson and the Catalyst. It's all great and awe inspiring and visually incredible.

Then it just goes wrong. And it goes wrong in the worst possible fashion by invalidating everything up until that point. There's no reason to replay the game now, all your emotional investment is undone because no choices matter at all, everyone dies/is lost forever. And I don't even mind Shepard dying. That's a fitting end I think and really powerful way to end things. But having the Normandy crash on Caprica was so misjudged and confusing.

If it all makes sense in a future DLC, even a planned one, I'll get over it. But until then, what an error in judgment.

END YOUR GAMES people. Jesus. Did we learn nothing from Halo 2?

[DS_Abe]

Adakutay wrote...

ME and ME2 had plot holes as well but ME3... If you can be content with such ending then it's good for you... I guess.

But the ME and ME2 plot holes were supposed to be resolved in ME3. To me it looks like Bioware had two teams - one made 90% of the game really awesome, the other made the final mission pretty good (although we lacked something like the Human Reaper or Saren from ME1), but ran out of funding/willpower/strength to even bother with the ending.

Because frankly, it's hard to say "The cake was delicious" when the last bite had a piece of turd in it. Yes, I enjoyed the cake, mostly. But the turd will be remembered probably forever.

[Vajraja]

I'm depressed as well - like many people have said I loved the game all the way until the end. Not what I was hoping for after 2 straight days of awesomeness

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

I'm in stages 2-4 simultaneously. It's not a pleasant experience.

[SavageLycan]

When I first saw the spoilers a week ago, I was bummed out. But I thought I'd gotten over it by the time I got the game. I was super excited about it, and hell, I still love 99% of the game. I thought I could handle the endings when I saw them again.

Boy was I ever wrong.

I'm as depressed as I've ever been in a long time. I mean, I don't want all disney endings or even one. I just want one ending that doesn't make me feel like I've been totally destroyed.

Above all though, I just want my Garrus back...

[Qutayba]

I think a lot of science fiction epics kind of get caught with the problem of a proper ending. You set up all kinds of themes and threads, so how do you tie them all up. Battlestar Galactica (the newer one) had the same problem (and I passionately loved and still love that show). Do you just have a big boss battle and a happy ending, and that's it? That would be kind of shallow and unsatisfying.

So you have to do two things: first, try to bring the individual character arcs to a good place: I thought this game did this magnificently. The Krogan and Quarian stories had to be told, since that's been building since the first game. Most of the companions got somewhere that made sense to me.

Second, try to come up with some ending that makes you think about the deeper ideas behind the story. But which ones? You can't include them all. So you get a somewhat disjointed and almost self-contradictory enigmatic ending. Something about power and choice? Or do we fall back to the relationship of organic and machine? What about imposing your choice upon the relationship of organic and machine? Yeah! We'll go with that! It's not an easy job to wrap up such a complex story, so I can forgive the strange ending because the story up to that point was top-notch.

Part of me wonders if the game offers a meta-commentary on RPG's. The galactic cycles/playthroughs may have different people and choices in it, but ultimately it all ends up in the same place. Breaking the cycle may itself be part of a larger cycle.

Another part of me wonders if the reason we have trouble finishing these human-machine conflict stories like the Matrix and Battlestar Galactica is that we're still unsure about what the real-world human-machine relationship should be like. So we wrap the story up to be finished with it but leave the question out there in all its awkwardness.

[vengerturtle]

I think I'm at acceptance, but this is the first of Bioware's games that I don't plan to replay. (Seriously, I replayed DA2 many times, even). If I do replay, I'm going to be stopping at a certain spot because what's even the point? My sister, though, saw the endings and wasn't done with her first game yet and I think she's perma-stuck in the "anger" stage since she says she's not planning on finishing now and just watched her Garrus romance scenes on youtube so she didn't miss out on that.

Modifié par missnicolec, 08 mars 2012 - 03:42 .

[mopotter]

SomeBug wrote...

Which stage is the one where you feel some sympathy and pity for the writers.

I mean, to have half a decade of work undone by one error. To have the entire experience soured for so many people by a misjudged ending.

And I can't imagine it was a group decision. There's one guy who wrote that ending and a writing team of half a dozen. They must be sitting around feeling sick that the lasting impression of five years of their hard work is, for a lot of people but not all people, one of annoyance, confusion and disbelief.

I mean, if they wanted a bleak ending. That's fine by me. But commit to it please, don't leave it so ambiguous. There's no closure in ME3. None at all. It just leaves you feeling like the rug has been pulled from under all of your emotional investment in the series.

I just feel sad for them. The legacy of such a near perfect game series, one that has defined and rejuvenated an entire genre of gaming, their legacy will be the last two minutes of a hundred-hour experience. What a shame.

I do sort of feel sorry for them, i wonder if there is someone going around saying "I told you so".  But I'm sure there will be players who don't see any problem with the endings.  

[TSSR666]

I'm in stage 5 over the endings, but then again I have a feelings I'm the old man of the group, and hardened against the wtf endings due to my experiances with Evangelion in college.  This was 3 minutes of stupid, not an hour of it, and I enjoyed the game it'self and will play it again. I'll just stop after killing that last reaper on the way up.  That simple.

[gamestress]

Utter disbelief.

Bioware has chucked us the ultimate LOSE/LOSE scenario with a big ole bow on top. I think what bugs me most is no real end game outcome options. I'm used to options from them. I played their other games over and over, and I just don't see that happening with one, although I did enjoyed most of the game, the new characters and reuniting with the LI. At least HE is still alive.