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[CatManDoo44]

Skorpijon wrote...

CatManDoo44 wrote...

The most annoying part is for those of us who can't get high speed. I'm a rural Canadian like 50% of the residents of this country and many of us can't get high speed internet where we live. So it is literally impossible for me to play the multiplayer to get my EMS up without moving and that is unforgivable in the final chapter of a single player game series. I expected better from a developer based in Edmonton.  They better fix the endings or else, I will never buy a Bioware game again.

I know how you feel. You feel cheated. Being forced to do something you cant physically do from your location to see all the possible endings. You cant play 10% of the game you bought cause you have bad internet. I know, i was in same position at some point.

But if you think for a minute. Why is your hardware, your internet connection a thing for Bioware to consider at making games. They say ok, we will make a game, it will have singleplayer that you need this and this hardware and mutliplayer that you need this and this hardware. If you are meeting the minimum requierment stated on the game minimum requierment specification you cant complain. Game runs on those settings. Its not optimal. I know from experience its sub optimal. But it runs.
If you didnt meet the minimum requierd specification, then the blame is on you. Why buying a game you know your hardware cant support?

But no, ppl go on that developers should change everything because its not optimal for ME. Well guess what buddy, world doesnt revolve around you.

And this threatning of not buying a product. That is the exact thing that is bothering me. You bought their product. you dont have the hardware to experience full 100% of the product you bought. And now They should accomodate you. What the hell is going on in the world??? I dont like the cover on that book i bough. I read it but since i cant see very well i cant see the remarks at the end that is in fine print. So... Are they supposed to make a new revision with new bigger print, refund me? Should i threaten that i wont buy any more books from that writer just cause I had a problem with the book/ending/content?

Seriously. World has gone mad. 
Instead of players suggesting things to improve or how they would do it or something you all go on about how unhappy/unfair it is and threaten to not buy anymore from them or demanding a refund. I dont know...


You get to see 3 endings if you play single player. If you play multiplayer, you might get so see the forth which is a version of the first one with one twist. That is all. That is the reward for players that play multiplayer and keeping the community alive after all the single player gamers leave the game. And dont bring me the issue " but i cant play multiplayer even if i want it to". That is your problem not biowares. Deal with it.

The difference is that they put the hardware specs on the box.  You know what you are getting into.  They PROMISED that you can do everything, get every ending in the single player game without playing the multiplayer.  BIG DIFFERENCE.  That is Bioware's problem, not mine.  It's called breach of contract.  They made warranties, representations about the game, what you could do without playing the multiplayer, and they lied.  I could sue them if I wanted.  This isn't a subjective thing like the quality of the endings.  Bioware employees objectively, even posted in this forum, that you can get all endings without multiplayer.  That is their problem.

Modifié par CatManDoo44, 21 mars 2012 - 03:00 .

[TjM78]

Beeno4Life wrote...

Heaven forbid we play other (very fun) parts of the game!

/sarcasm

I hate Multiplayer. I also feel that requiring it for a SINGLE PLAYER story is asinine

[Overule]

Honestly guys, this was a bad idea. Having a multiplayer option like horde mode was a good one. Giving people a way to play a game they already love with their friends is always a good idea. But this ham handed attempt to tie it into the single player? It was a mistake... especially to tie them together to the extent that you did. No one who bought the game for the campaign (which is likely the majority of us) wants to have their arm twisted to play multiplayer when they're eager to dig into the single player content. And nobody who's actually in the mood to play multiplayer is thinking about their single player campaign at the time. They're thinking about that Brute to their left, that Banshee to their right and the 4 Husks behind them. Get my meaning?

Modifié par Overule, 21 mars 2012 - 03:06 .

[Skorpijon]

CatManDoo44 wrote...

bunch of text...

The difference is that they put the hardware specs on the box.  You know what you are getting into.  They PROMISED that you can do everything, get every ending in the single player game without playing the multiplayer.  BIG DIFFERENCE.  That is Bioware's problem, not mine.  It's called breach of contract.  They made warranties, representations about the game, what you could do without playing the multiplayer, and they lied.  I could sue them if I wanted.  This isn't a subjective thing like the quality of the endings.  Bioware employees objectively, even posted in this forum, that you can get all endings without multiplayer.  That is their problem.

But but, you can get all endings without multiplayer. Single player means you play alone without other players. Correct? So play Mass effect: Datapad. That is single player is it not? Or Mass effect: Infiltrator if its out already. you play that alone aswell. Its singleplayer, not multiplayer.
So if we go really into the detail. Is there any quote that specifically says you can get all possible endings as single player in mass effect 3 game only? 

And even if you find that quote, the difference between the red ending at 50% readiness and the red ending at 100% readiness is only in the execution of the solution. You do what you do with all those things, but you can be included or not (ppl that experienced all the endings know what im talking about). 

So to explain as simple as i can:
There are only three endings and you see them all if you complete the single player in mass effect 3 game only. I had 7340 or so and with 50% i scored 3670. I saw all three endings. Red, blue and green. Green was supposed to be the optimal ending according to the devs. You dont get any other ending if you play multiplayer and push readiness to 100%. Oh the little details change but there are still only three choices. Red, green and blue.

Now if you think that you should see all the little things also then i am lost for words and ill return to my previous walls of text. Wake up and stop nitpicking.

[CatManDoo44]

Skorpijon wrote...

CatManDoo44 wrote...

bunch of text...

The difference is that they put the hardware specs on the box.  You know what you are getting into.  They PROMISED that you can do everything, get every ending in the single player game without playing the multiplayer.  BIG DIFFERENCE.  That is Bioware's problem, not mine.  It's called breach of contract.  They made warranties, representations about the game, what you could do without playing the multiplayer, and they lied.  I could sue them if I wanted.  This isn't a subjective thing like the quality of the endings.  Bioware employees objectively, even posted in this forum, that you can get all endings without multiplayer.  That is their problem.

But but, you can get all endings without multiplayer. Single player means you play alone without other players. Correct? So play Mass effect: Datapad. That is single player is it not? Or Mass effect: Infiltrator if its out already. you play that alone aswell. Its singleplayer, not multiplayer.
So if we go really into the detail. Is there any quote that specifically says you can get all possible endings as single player in mass effect 3 game only? 

And even if you find that quote, the difference between the red ending at 50% readiness and the red ending at 100% readiness is only in the execution of the solution. You do what you do with all those things, but you can be included or not (ppl that experienced all the endings know what im talking about). 

So to explain as simple as i can:
There are only three endings and you see them all if you complete the single player in mass effect 3 game only. I had 7340 or so and with 50% i scored 3670. I saw all three endings. Red, blue and green. Green was supposed to be the optimal ending according to the devs. You dont get any other ending if you play multiplayer and push readiness to 100%. Oh the little details change but there are still only three choices. Red, green and blue.

Now if you think that you should see all the little things also then i am lost for words and ill return to my previous walls of text. Wake up and stop nitpicking.

I can find like 5 quotes from them saying you can get all endings without multiplayer and don't bring up the Datapad or Infiltrator.  The quotes all say that there are enough War Assets in single-player ME3 to get every ending.

http://social.biowar.../index/9665384  There you go, no Datapad, no Infiltrator, no multiplayer - enough war assets for every ending.

That is called fraudulent misrepresentation and is, legally, a basis for recission of contract. ie. full refund

Modifié par CatManDoo44, 21 mars 2012 - 03:47 .

[AlanC9]

CatManDoo44 wrote...
I can find like 5 quotes from them saying you can get all endings without multiplayer and don't bring up the Datapad or Infiltrator.  The quotes all say that there are enough War Assets in single-player ME3 to get every ending.

http://social.biowar.../index/9665384  There you go, no Datapad, no Infiltrator, no multiplayer - enough war assets for every ending.

That quote isn't the one you'd want to use in court. He talks about the "best" endings. You need a quote where he talks about all endings, since the 4000 EMS ending is a variant on the "red" ending, which is hardly optimal -- although a seriously Renegade Shepard might prefer it, it's much worse for a lot of people in the galaxy than the green ending is.

Edit: unless you buy the "indoctrination" theory, in which case the red ending really is optimal.

Modifié par AlanC9, 21 mars 2012 - 04:39 .

[pie815]

Sorry I don't have a screencap guys, but I just wanted to say that if you count saving

Spoiler

Anderson

at the end and he really does count as 1000 war assets, then I ended up with 8307 at the end of new game plus which imported a save from the previous two games, that would mean 50 percent would be enough, right?



I don't even know if that 1000 assets thing at the end is true, I just am throwing this out there.

[Skorpijon]

If that is true (think its the renegade option if im not mistaken). You would get more then 4k at 50%. And that invalidates the whole topic we have here. I'll try it.

On the other hand, ppl still make distinctions among the flavoured endings against the types of endings. There are three types (that is all only three ways the game ends) and if you play single player you see all. No matter if you have 50% or 100%, you get to see red, green and blue. Period. There are three key words in those colour endings designation which for the sake of spoilers I cannot say. But those key words dont change and they define the ending. Not what happens to sheppard, but the way it ends.

So you basically see all endings. Dont nitpick into those survive or not things. A red ending is a red ending. Period. You dont get fourth dialogue option or fifth or ninth. You get three no matter what.