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[AuroraKet]

I read some of the complaints, shrugged, and took a peek at multiplayer. I forgot the SP campaign for two days, cause i was having too much fun in multi. lol.

Galactic Readiness: 99-100%. And pew-pew to be had in open teaming co-op. Instead of complaining, y'all should try it. A little repetitive, but lots of fun. Only real issue is that those playing it on casual or 'do all the combat for me on one click' and the like are gonna have some minor issues with some enemies. Banshees are NASTY in Multi. hehe. So are Brutes. But, if you use proper tactics for anti-armor/anti-barrier, they're not unbeatable either.

And you don't really have to spend a single cent doing it, for PC at least. You earn credits for missions, and can buy the 'packs' for better weapons and toys with the MP credits earned.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

Beeno4Life wrote...

Heaven forbid we play other (very fun) parts of the game!

/sarcasm

That's not the point.

I will also play the Multiplayer and I'll enjoy the hell out of it.

The point is that we were told that it wasn't necessary and everything could be achieved solely in the Single Player and this is obviously not true.

Yes it is.  IF yo don't do multiplayer you must then complete every quest in the game and find every single war asset and make all the "right"  decisions to max out your EMS because that 50% is your total.  So, say you get 5000 war assets. Well, now you take that times 50% and you now have 2500.  However, if you did multiplayer and got your GR up to 100%, then you get that full 5000 war assets.  So, you don't HAVE to do multiplayer... but if you do then your SP actions count for more.  Hope that makes sense.

[Tietj]

It doesn't. Why is everyone being so obtuse about this? Many people have done every quest they could possibly do and there does not seem to be a way to get your EMS above 4000, which is supposedly the minimum to get the extra scene.

[SSJ5]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

Beeno4Life wrote...

Heaven forbid we play other (very fun) parts of the game!

/sarcasm

That's not the point.

I will also play the Multiplayer and I'll enjoy the hell out of it.

The point is that we were told that it wasn't necessary and everything could be achieved solely in the Single Player and this is obviously not true.

Yes it is.  IF yo don't do multiplayer you must then complete every quest in the game and find every single war asset and make all the "right"  decisions to max out your EMS because that 50% is your total.  So, say you get 5000 war assets. Well, now you take that times 50% and you now have 2500.  However, if you did multiplayer and got your GR up to 100%, then you get that full 5000 war assets.  So, you don't HAVE to do multiplayer... but if you do then your SP actions count for more.  Hope that makes sense.

The thing is, you can't get more than 7000 in single player. No one I know got more than little over 7000. Divide that by two and you get 3500.

AuroraKet wrote...

I read some of the complaints,
shrugged, and took a peek at multiplayer. I forgot the SP campaign for
two days, cause i was having too much fun in multi. lol.

Galactic
Readiness: 99-100%. And pew-pew to be had in open teaming co-op.
Instead of complaining, y'all should try it. A little repetitive, but
lots of fun. Only real issue is that those playing it on casual or 'do
all the combat for me on one click' and the like are gonna have some
minor issues with some enemies. Banshees are NASTY in Multi. hehe. So
are Brutes. But, if you use proper tactics for
anti-armor/anti-barrier, they're not unbeatable either.

And
you don't really have to spend a single cent doing it, for PC at least.
You earn credits for missions, and can buy the 'packs' for better
weapons and toys with the MP credits earned.

Why should I be forced to play something I don't like? You assume that everyone who doesn't like multy hasn't tried it.

Modifié par SSJ5, 10 mars 2012 - 09:25 .

[Tietj]

Plus, not all of us CAN play it, if we don't have a connection. And XBOX players have to pay.

[Sienedar]

god, there is no point getting GR 100% if you are not lazy in SP...3500 EMS is more than enough, 5000 EMS changes NOTHING (you still get the same ending options, i don't count a 4 seconds additional video, that appears only in 1 ending and that makes you feel even more screwed than if you never seen this video).

[SSJ5]

Sienedar wrote...

god, there is no point getting GR 100% if you are not lazy in SP...3500 EMS is more than enough, 5000 EMS changes NOTHING (you still get the same ending options, i don't count a 4 seconds additional video, that appears only in 1 ending and that makes you feel even more screwed than if you never seen this video).

It changed nothing. EXCEPT the one major thing.

[BP20125810]

You find out how unneccessary it is when you beat the game. in fact youll find out how EVERY GOD DAMN THING YOU DID was unneccessary.

[Sienedar]

SSJ5 wrote...

Sienedar wrote...

god, there is no point getting GR 100% if you are not lazy in SP...3500 EMS is more than enough, 5000 EMS changes NOTHING (you still get the same ending options, i don't count a 4 seconds additional video, that appears only in 1 ending and that makes you feel even more screwed than if you never seen this video).

It changed nothing. EXCEPT the one major thing.

Please, pm me, what major thing that was? for me it changed nothing, i had 6200 EMS before i tried the last mission (the attack on illusive man base and so on) second time. If major thing is that 4 seconds video ( and i tried it only because i read spoilers after 1st playthrough) - then its still nothing.

[Adugan]

So where are those quotes that say you dont need MP to get the best ending and all that good stuff from Chris?

Modifié par Adugan, 11 mars 2012 - 10:27 .

[Foolsfolly]

Multiplayer should have always been divorced from the singleplayer.

And it's not even good multiplayer, PvP. It's a damned co-op Horde mode. Ugh. Just ugh.

[Sherana]

Foolsfolly wrote...


Multiplayer should have always been divorced from the singleplayer.

And it's not even good multiplayer, PvP. It's a damned co-op Horde mode. Ugh. Just ugh.

I'm trying to think of some method of good multiplayer for a game like this that would be PvP, and so far I'm concluding that the two are just mutually exclusive.

[Michel1986]

DarthShadow13 wrote...

It was also confirmed that you can get the "best" ending without playing multiplayer therefore 100% is not needed

Actually it does, if you have a Total of (lets say) 100 TMS and have played multiplayer so you get 100% Readiness Rating you will gain 100 EMS. If you don't play multiplayer your TMS will cut in half and get 50 EMS (which is quit stupid if you ask me)

Now from what i know and wat i have read is that you need 5000 EMS for the perfect ending, this means if you play multiplayer it is easy to achieve since you get a reward x2 (you actually need 5000 TMS to get this which is easy). People who play singleplayer only needs 10000TMS which is not possible to get.

Bioware said you don't need to play multiplayer to get the best ending, they lied to you.

[Chaos Gate]

I don't have the game yet, but I sincerely hope that I won't have to get my hands dirty with MP to get the ending that I want. For one reason, I think MP should be strictly divorced from SP at all times, and secondly, my gaming rig currently doesn't have an internet connection!

[sweeper2]

Played the MP for about 2 hours last night - have my "War Readiness" rating to about 70% . The MP wasn't real enjoyable as with any other MP game you have to be quick and those with the best guns and experience ( they know the maps and where the enemy comes from ) get most of the points. But, it was not bad either- enjoyed it more than the repetitive scanning of planet after planet in prior ME's. I just finished with the Geth war mission ( reaper base) and my War Asset points are about 5800 - so 5800 x .70 = 4060 EMS currently - is that right? My Paragon is nearly completely full. I still have more missions to get additional points and Paragon - but I think I am nearly done - I agree the people who literally cant play on the internet have a reason to gripe- but for those you can play MP, but just don't like it - then deal with it. From what I have read/heard none of the endings are good no matter what EMS you get to - so enjoy "playing the game" and try to not get worked up about it. So, if I don't want to play anymore MP- leaving my readiness at 70% I would need to get my in game points to about 7200 to get to 5000 EMS correct?

[Skorpijon]

Ppl are forgeting that first of all, its Bioware game, it has a dark theme and the story ends how it ends. Defining best ending by the developer doesnt mean its best for what you think it would be.
Multiplayer is decent for this kind of game.
And we are too spoiled by every crap out there today. Ending is dark and disapointing. It should be. Its more or less realistic in the universe the game is about. There isi no happy endings, you are not a super hero, and life is hard and unfair. Deal with it.

Enjoy the game, its really awesome, if you dont like multiplayer, dont play it, you can watch the video on youtube or something if you think those extra 4 sec will matter :S

Imagine, ****ing and moaning about an extra 4 sec. Ppl are really spoiled... i want everything now and i want it now and since i paid i want everything now. Yeah. Wake up kids.

[Tazzmission]

Skorpijon wrote...

Ppl are forgeting that first of all, its Bioware game, it has a dark theme and the story ends how it ends. Defining best ending by the developer doesnt mean its best for what you think it would be.
Multiplayer is decent for this kind of game.
And we are too spoiled by every crap out there today. Ending is dark and disapointing. It should be. Its more or less realistic in the universe the game is about. There isi no happy endings, you are not a super hero, and life is hard and unfair. Deal with it.

Enjoy the game, its really awesome, if you dont like multiplayer, dont play it, you can watch the video on youtube or something if you think those extra 4 sec will matter :S

Imagine, ****ing and moaning about an extra 4 sec. Ppl are really spoiled... i want everything now and i want it now and since i paid i want everything now. Yeah. Wake up kids.

quoted for truth

[TX-Toast]

So still no word on this from the mods? I hate multiplayer and the “best" ending isn't worth forcing myself to play it. But still, don't tell me its possible when it really isn't.

[OdanUrr]

Skorpijon wrote...

Ppl are forgeting that first of all, its Bioware game, it has a dark theme and the story ends how it ends. Defining best ending by the developer doesnt mean its best for what you think it would be.
Multiplayer is decent for this kind of game.
And we are too spoiled by every crap out there today. Ending is dark and disapointing. It should be. Its more or less realistic in the universe the game is about. There isi no happy endings, you are not a super hero, and life is hard and unfair. Deal with it.

Enjoy the game, its really awesome, if you dont like multiplayer, dont play it, you can watch the video on youtube or something if you think those extra 4 sec will matter :S

Imagine, ****ing and moaning about an extra 4 sec. Ppl are really spoiled... i want everything now and i want it now and since i paid i want everything now. Yeah. Wake up kids.

You seem to be in the group that thinks those of us who didn't like the endings are simply over-indulged whiners who want a happy ending to every story. It is sad that your view on things is so limited that you won't admit, to yourself at least, that there are serious issues with the endings from a strictly logical point of view.

I, personally, have no problem with "dark endings" but have never deluded myself into believing that a "dark ending" makes a good game. And whatever "realism" a "dark ending" can lend to a game, in this case it was utterly destroyed when it was reduced to an eleventh-hour solution requiring Shepard to choose between three proposed scenarios that are poorly explained.

[Skorpijon]

Sure logic and plausibility are one of the things one would expect from mass effect universe. Of course if you played 11 hours of gathering an army and stuff, you expect more. But seriously. You get to choose 3 things. In the end in most of them (depends on the score readiness or whatever) Shepard dies. If you die, you dont possibly expect you will get the background explained while in... ghost form do you?
Oh you mean while you are up there, the infinitely old thing, whatever it is, will take his time to explain to someone as primitive as you what this is all about, his family tree, what exactly was the original plan, are there more galaxies with cycles, did he watch starwars/star trek/stargate as well?

Yes the endings might contradict logic, but i can come up with any number of reasons that support a particular ending. You say banana, i say tree. Its so open no matter what you do, you can come up with some strange bizarre thing that will support the ending. And the thing ppl advocate so much in here as in if they planned to prevent yadayadayada... how can you possibly imprint your thinking to the incredibly old thing that shaped the galaxy for million of years? Not to mention the whole thing is a fantasy so basic rules might not apply?

Anyway all i am judging is that ppl cry out for every little crap there is. Yes you paid 50€ or whatever. Did you or did you not have fun? Do you ask for refund for movies after you watched them? No. Why not? Cause the theater would say shove this up your... Its simple. You bought a product. You had or didnt had fun. Done deal. Stop whining. If you were somehow prevented from playing because of bugs or something sure go ahead, get a refund. If you played it and didnt like the ending? Come on. There are things out there that dont make sense. Even in the real world. And here there are hundreds of players that think they can whine and **** for every little crap that doesnt fit into their little universe/perfect picture.

Besides, my remark was to the players that mostly whined about the ending and demanded to get it changed or get refunded or something. For me that is the illogical part. The world doesnt turn that way. Otherwise noone would write books or make movies. But in game business, players (mostly kids, that get everything for what they cry for for years) think they have the right to get whatever doesnt suit them. Again... wake up kids.
Thing is i didnt like the ending as much as i wanted to also. It was the anticlimax for me. But i on the other hand dont whine. I take my time and play for second time, ill go through all 3 games for 5th time and ill play some multiplayer and enjoy my money that i spent on the franchise. You on the other hand go ahead, complain your hearth out. Because we all know. It will help. Not.

[kofelover]

Tietj wrote...

But what are you considering the "perfect ending?" I don't want to spoil so I'll call them blue, red, and green. I know the green ending is sometimes thought of as the good one, but what a lot of us mean is a short scene added on to the red ending. And we're definitely not talking about the weird post credits scene with two silhouettes talking to each other, which has nothing to do with EMS. I've heard that to get the extra scene in the red ending, your EMS needs to be at 4000 or 5000 depending on a few things, and that just seems impossible without multiplayer. Which I can't do as my PS3 is not connected to the internet.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to get the required 4000 needed for the "optional" red ending without multiplayer even with a perfect imported ME2 character and doing EVERY side quest, mission, scan every planet etc.  The most you will get is between 7000 - 7400 or 3500 to 3700.

[RyuujinZERO]

kofelover wrote...

It is IMPOSSIBLE to get the required 4000 needed for the "optional" red ending without multiplayer even with a perfect imported ME2 character and doing EVERY side quest, mission, scan every planet etc.  The most you will get is between 7000 - 7400 or 3500 to 3700.

This.

The confusion stems from the fact the "canon" best ending according to  the developer notes is the in fact the green ending. Which to most players is in fact the pants-on-head-retarded ending (SPACE MAGIC CIRCUIT LEAVES AND VEINY ROBOTS FOR ALL!) which unlocks at like 3.5k EWA and thus is doable.

By adding a 4th ending at an even higher EWA, in which you survive it changes the perception.

[SeanThen1]

All they had to do to fix this problem is to have the Mass Effect Datapad method of raising your readiness available via an IG terminal, or on the internet as opposed to IOS. Problem F-ing solved.

[CatManDoo44]

The most annoying part is for those of us who can't get high speed. I'm a rural Canadian like 50% of the residents of this country and many of us can't get high speed internet where we live. So it is literally impossible for me to play the multiplayer to get my EMS up without moving and that is unforgivable in the final chapter of a single player game series. I expected better from a developer based in Edmonton.  They better fix the endings or else, I will never buy a Bioware game again.

Modifié par CatManDoo44, 20 mars 2012 - 10:48 .

[Skorpijon]

CatManDoo44 wrote...

The most annoying part is for those of us who can't get high speed. I'm a rural Canadian like 50% of the residents of this country and many of us can't get high speed internet where we live. So it is literally impossible for me to play the multiplayer to get my EMS up without moving and that is unforgivable in the final chapter of a single player game series. I expected better from a developer based in Edmonton.  They better fix the endings or else, I will never buy a Bioware game again.

I know how you feel. You feel cheated. Being forced to do something you cant physically do from your location to see all the possible endings. You cant play 10% of the game you bought cause you have bad internet. I know, i was in same position at some point.

But if you think for a minute. Why is your hardware, your internet connection a thing for Bioware to consider at making games. They say ok, we will make a game, it will have singleplayer that you need this and this hardware and mutliplayer that you need this and this hardware. If you are meeting the minimum requierment stated on the game minimum requierment specification you cant complain. Game runs on those settings. Its not optimal. I know from experience its sub optimal. But it runs.
If you didnt meet the minimum requierd specification, then the blame is on you. Why buying a game you know your hardware cant support?

But no, ppl go on that developers should change everything because its not optimal for ME. Well guess what buddy, world doesnt revolve around you.

And this threatning of not buying a product. That is the exact thing that is bothering me. You bought their product. you dont have the hardware to experience full 100% of the product you bought. And now They should accomodate you. What the hell is going on in the world??? I dont like the cover on that book i bough. I read it but since i cant see very well i cant see the remarks at the end that is in fine print. So... Are they supposed to make a new revision with new bigger print, refund me? Should i threaten that i wont buy any more books from that writer just cause I had a problem with the book/ending/content?

Seriously. World has gone mad. 
Instead of players suggesting things to improve or how they would do it or something you all go on about how unhappy/unfair it is and threaten to not buy anymore from them or demanding a refund. I dont know...


You get to see 3 endings if you play single player. If you play multiplayer, you might get so see the forth which is a version of the first one with one twist. That is all. That is the reward for players that play multiplayer and keeping the community alive after all the single player gamers leave the game. And dont bring me the issue " but i cant play multiplayer even if i want it to". That is your problem not biowares. Deal with it.