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[Elhanan]

xkg wrote...

At least those "whining" people here gave thier reasons why they think one game is better than the other. You on the other hand are b!tching about their opinions not about the game itself - that is very constructive.

And no Morrowind was never great game imo - it was even more boring than Skyrim and it goes like Oblivion>Skyrim>Morrowind. Do you have any theory about that ? Humor me please. 

EDIT: Or better don't. If you got nothing to say about the game itself just BQ please.

He did:

"Some people call Skyrim one of the most overrated games of the year. I think they're wrong. It's magnificent, and I'm proud to call it my GOTY. "

Reading is fundemental; it seems some of the whiners only get the part that is mental....

[MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES]

xkg wrote...
And no Morrowind was never great game imo - it was even more boring than Skyrim and it goes like Oblivion>Skyrim>Morrowind.

I'D BE MORE INCLINED TO REVERSE THAT ORDER. I LIKED THE FACT THAT MORROWIND LET YOU DO STUFF LIKE JUMP OVER MOUNTAINS. THE ONLY THING OBLIVION HAS GOING FOR IT OVER THE OTHER TWO IS STEALTH MECHANICS, AND THAT'S NOT SAYING MUCH.

[bandfred]

Nizaris1 wrote...

I think Morrowind can run on my computer smoothly, it is an old game right? By the way, all these Elder Scrolls series are not related with each other right?

Games 1-4 all happen within a 40 year timespan, with Skyrim taking place 200 years after 4. The good thing about The Elder Scrolls is that you don't need to play the previous games to understand what's going on (its not like playing Mass Effect 3 or Halo 3 first), though I would prefer starting with Morrowind as I personally believe it does the best job of introducing you into the world of Tamriel.

[Elhanan]

And Archery, Smithing, Restoration, 2H, hundreds of dungeons, ruins, forts, and those mountains some may wish to leap....

[bandfred]

Well, Morrowind and Oblivion GOTY editions both cost 19.99 USD on Steam. And don't forget the free mods that add hundreds of dollars worth of content.

[Yrkoon]

Nizaris1 wrote...
That is why i ask here, i don't want to ask at Skyrim forum because want to avoid biased answers, it is like asking about Dragon Age or Mass Effect to Bioware fans.

Not really.    If  I've learned  anything over the years it's that gamers are the same everywhere.    Come here to ask Bioware fans if you should buy Dragon Age 2 and you'll get  the full range  of answers, from the  ridiculously skewed, to the refreshingly fair.   Go to Bethsoft and you'll get the same thing about Skyrim.

My suggestion, wherever you decide to go,  is to read between the lines.  Its one thing to  gather a bunch of  "It sucks!" or "it's awesome!" answers, and quite another to  study what people say when they're  not actually  trying to answer your question.  For example, one thing I love in RPGs is the ability to fully customize your character.  So if I'm on a message board and come across a huge 50 page thread where people are talking about their unique character builds in a game,  Then I just found 50 pages of relevant  information.

Ditto with threads where people  are discussing quest solutions. or  "which side did you pick?" or  "what happens if I choose to go here instead of there?"   By reading those kinds of threads, you get a general sense of what  the game offers.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 08 mars 2012 - 02:52 .

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Nizaris1 wrote...

Everybody say Skyrim is good and even say the best game ever created...i have watched on You Tube Skyrim gameplay, reading FAQs and guides, reading Skyrim-wiki...i still don't know what to say, because i don't play it yet.

But what i see by far is a guy/girl walking around, meet monster then fight it, walking around again, meet one or two bandit and fight it, then walking around again, then meet a wolf, kill it, walking around again...sometimes try to catch a fish....

The game is tempting because of the graphic, but i use old computer, even if i buy it sure i will not experience like what i see on You Tube, but graphic is not the main issue, the issue is, is Skyrim is so good as everybody claim? It seems to me like the best way to waste my time...

What do you guys think?

Irony.

Posting on the BSN.

[xkg]

Elhanan wrote...

xkg wrote...

At least those "whining" people here gave thier reasons why they think one game is better than the other. You on the other hand are b!tching about their opinions not about the game itself - that is very constructive.

And no Morrowind was never great game imo - it was even more boring than Skyrim and it goes like Oblivion>Skyrim>Morrowind. Do you have any theory about that ? Humor me please. 

EDIT: Or better don't. If you got nothing to say about the game itself just BQ please.

He did:

"Some people call Skyrim one of the most overrated games of the year. I think they're wrong. It's magnificent, and I'm proud to call it my GOTY. "

Reading is fundemental; it seems some of the whiners only get the part that is mental....

Oh he did ... did he ? Now read that bolded-underlied part and let's see.

"Some people call Skyrim one of the most overrated games of the year. I think they're wrong. It's magnificent, and I'm proud to call it my GOTY. "

So many details, so many comparisons, so many reasons. Yeah you are right - his "review" is even more "magnificent" than the game itself.

Reading is fundamental you say ? Logic and reading comprehension are fundamental too, and you lack both of them.

PS. And you are calling people whiners ? LMAO. Dude there was an entire thread with poll on SW:TOR forum named "Vote to ban Elhanan" - people wanted you perma banned because of your constant whining and trolling every single PVP thread. Do you remember that ? yeah, have a nice day.

Modifié par xkg, 08 mars 2012 - 08:55 .

[Elhanan]

lol - Yep; I proudly remember my thread calling on Bioware for the perma ban on Griefers. And what do we have now? A new zero tolerance CoC in these Forums due to actions that fall under that title. I call it progress.

And I am still a part TOR, as well as here; whiners and all.

As for Skyrim, the GOTY managed to fool enough fans and critics to get the award. What a nice day!

P.S. RE: LMAO; the A is not missing....

Modifié par Elhanan, 08 mars 2012 - 09:36 .

[Monica83]

Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...

I love skyrim but yea its overhyped.
Oblivion has more of a RPG core then skyrim.to each there own

Not true... Skyrim have a lot more dialogues than oblivion..

I just hated the retarded manner of oblivion to persuade people....

Starts conversation: Persuade

Appear the well...

Yes i like it a lot
You win this one
Please don't make me laught....

Skyrim have a lot more of roleplay elements

[Mecha Tengu]

I have downloaded $100 worth of content for mods made by real dedicate players to the game. (I have also given a shot at creating custom armor and texture mods)

at least, that is $100 that scumbag devs would charge for

I lol at you silly little console gamers, whos platforms are contemplating suicide. In a few months, new models, characters, and even continents will be released

[Monica83]

Skyrim is just different than oblivion...

Oblivion was dumbed down in many things and also have a generic setting with not variety of locations at all...

Skyrim introduced:
1) Crafting skills
2) A huge and beautyfull world of game with many difference in location
3) A new crime system that add a bounty only in the city territory where you commit the crime.. In oblivion you can't slap someone in the middle of the forest or a guard appear from no where and:"stop right there criminal scum!"
4)A new in theme artstile on city and also on outfit..
5)Flyng monsters "dragons"
6)A faction system "stormcloack and imperials"
7)More care in some guilds "Companion,Thief guild,Dark brotherhood questline are cute"
8)Perks that can customize more your character instead of only skill that change only damage like oblivion.. In oblivion only magic were fun..If you make a melee fighter in oblivion you have just to learn many ability points just to learn a rotating attack -.-
9)Different not schematic dungeon to explore with nice rewards..
10) New powers: Shout
11)New combat system that allow to combine spells and dual wielding
11)More living nature:Birds.. Wolves..Sabrecat..Rabbits..Insects
12)Persuasion written line instead of a stupid wheel

And there are people that still say: Skyrim is dumbed down Oblivion is better?

On what planet?

Modifié par Monica83, 08 mars 2012 - 01:41 .

[xkg]

Monica83 wrote...
And there are people that still say: Skyrim is dumbed down

No one said that the entire game was dumbed down (apart from that one troll talking about family games - but I wouldn't pay too much attetion to his words, useless as always) only that there are elements that are less complex.

For example character system (Stats + skills) is much more complex than the new perks-only system.
Spell making system is gone in Skyrim. No character stats influencing conversation options (remember that persuasion mini-game in Oblivion ?) and many many more.

Monica83 wrote...
Oblivion is better?
On what planet?

Ah yes. There are people on this planet with different tastes and opionions than yours. Hard concept to grasp for you eh ?

Modifié par xkg, 08 mars 2012 - 03:05 .

[Yrkoon]

xkg wrote...
 There are people on this planet with different testes

:::saving this priceless typo for the lulz  before it's edited:::

Ahem, I have it on good authority that   ~50% of the human population doesn't even have testes.

That is all.  please carry on.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 08 mars 2012 - 03:03 .

[xkg]

^
hahaha )) that was indeed hilarious.
Fixed it now - I meant TASTES obviously.

[Monica83]

xkg wrote...

Monica83 wrote...
And there are people that still say: Skyrim is dumbed down

No one said that the entire game was dumbed down (apart from that one troll talking about family games - but I wouldn't pay too much attetion to his words, useless as always) only that there are elements that are less complex.

For example character system (Stats + skills) is much more complex than the new perks-only system.
Spell making system is gone in Skyrim. No character stats influencing conversation options (remember that persuasion mini-game in Oblivion ?) and many many more.

Monica83 wrote...
Oblivion is better?
On what planet?

Ah yes. There are people on this planet with different tastes and opionions than yours. Hard concept to grasp for you eh ?

Spellmaking is gone and its a nice complaint..In regard of persuasion is still present as a skill but its no more a silly minigame maybe matter of tastes of course but i prefefar they cut out the annoyng wheel in favour on full written attempt than a wheel with: oh i like it a lot.... you win this one

If thing are missing for sure modders find a way to add things skyrim is more moddable than oblivion...

I usually aganist semplification of rpg.. But i liked what they did in skyrim making a skill and perks based system but this is a matter of taste...

The fact is: Skyrim base have much more content than the oblivion base and im happy with it..

And if in your skyrim add mods that add immersion like:

Feed and thrist system
Hypotermia
Portable camp
More village animals
Skyrim at war
And the recently coltivation of the tytanis mod you add  a lot of replay value..


In that regard im really happy skyrim mods for now are not overflooded with anime things like in oblivion..

You can like more Skyrim or Oblivion but Skyrim base have a lot more content e add a lot more of variety than oblivion

[Gotholhorakh]

Monica83 wrote...
stuff

I've got to say, I'm pretty much with you on Oblivion and Skyrim - in fact Skyrim completely makes sense of Oblivion for me.

Oblivion was always a bit of a WTF game for me, it was sparse in content, ugly (I more mean stuff like player models than countryside), a resource hog, there was a paucity of enjoyable NPC interaction and actual gameplay lacked some kind of je ne sais quoi - but it had these moments, you'd be out running around the wilderness and take it into your head to shoot deer, or the first time you were riding a horse in a moonlit forest and it started raining, those moments felt kind of special. Not to mention the way the dark brotherhood quest appeared just when you were convinced you couldn't stand any more tedium. It was like a vast world of copy and pasted content that just failed to hold together some pretty cool concepts and the whole thing just, by a tiny bit failed to sit right...

Then I played Skyrim, which just gets it right on so many things that Oblivion didn't and I remember repeatedly having moments playing Skyrim where I'd think "Wow, this is the sort of thing they were trying to realise with Oblivion... it makes so much more sense now".

I really did like spell-making and I miss it, but even without it, for me base Skyrim is so much better than even fully modded-out Oblivion even despite that omission.

I'd rather see Skyrim "Morrowindify" than "Obliviate" when it comes to choosing mods, too.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 08 mars 2012 - 08:30 .

[Mercannis]

If your looking just for a way to waste your time then i suggest an MMO might be better suited. Many of them are F2P so it wont cost you anything either.

If you do have the cash and you do love RPGs then yes Skyrim is a must buy.

[Yrkoon]

Just a quick question. How much working ram does your current rig have in it right now?

I only ask because Skyrim has remarkably low system specs for a game of its calibur. I know guys with 4 year old computers who are running Skyrim flawlessly. 2 gigs of ram is more than enough. In fact, before patch 1.03, the game flat out didn't even recognize more than 2 gigs of ram on PCs.

Looking at your avatar, I don't see any registered games. But if your computer can run ME2 or DA:O, then you're good to go with Skyrim. It'll run perfectly on medium to high settings with just about any computer that can run Dragon Age: origins.

[android654]

I'm also in the minority who haven't played Skyrim either. I'll be honest, I do need a good story in order to feel like I have a reason to play on, but the size of Skyrim and the diversity of environments do make me want to give it a try.

Just two questions about it. Is the CC really detailed? I know it's Bethesda, and FO3 and NV's CC were really limited to the point where every character you make looks the same no matter what you tried to do. Also, is the learning curve steep? I was never great at crafting, but I would like to try more of the things available if they were more simplified when you first learn them.

[Yrkoon]

Character creation is "OK". On a 10 scale I'd give it about a 6. It's not as good as DA's CC. The huge difference though, is that Skyrim gives you 10 races to choose from, which ALONE is enough to insure some radically different looking Characters. And that's before any customizations you do with body sliders, and face and hair details.  Face paint is a  pretty cool addition.


As for learning curves.... LOL Honestly, There isn't one. The game is ridiculously easy to get a hang of. Especially if you're playing on consoles. if you're on PC the only minor 'problem' comes in the UI, which probably isn't as intuitive as it should be at first. But within about an hour even that problem goes away.

One thing about that though. The Tutorial is actually tougher than the whole rest of the game, mainly because it locks you into one camera view and your character has his arms bound. But again, you soon find yourself out of that silly noise, and then the game truly begins.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 10 mars 2012 - 09:40 .

[Addai]

CC is 100% improved over Oblivion, and definitely more customizable than Fallout 3 or NV, but still has some problems especially on certain races. For example, a lot of the presets look middle aged, and you're still pretty limited on things like hairstyles and eye shape compared to some other games. There is a body slider which is nice- you can make both males and females be slender or pumped up.

You'll do better if you can mod. In general I'd say that if your machine can handle it at all, get this game on PC.

Modifié par Addai67, 10 mars 2012 - 09:44 .