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[Tezlaa]

Geth Unit_X930 wrote...

Im gonna shut up to starve the troll

[WildcardCharlie]

XOEmma wrote...


Damage control after everybody found out the ending was horrible.

The ending is really what gets me.

I could have lived with not liking the gameplay. Gameplay is not even why I play this series in the end, it's the characters and story, and I think a lot of people are the same way.

I didn't need a "happy" ending either. Just give me an ending where my CHOICES MATTER.

[WildcardCharlie]

Tezlaa wrote...

Geth Unit_X930 wrote...

Im gonna shut up to starve the troll

Dude, I looked at your history. You come into every thread criticizing the game and say "why don't you leave the forum then?" You are the definition of a troll. Enjoy being what you claim to hate.

[Farbautisonn]

Tezlaa wrote...

Geth Unit_X930 wrote...

Im gonna shut up to starve the troll

-Thanks for bumping the thread.

[AkiKishi]

WildcardCharlie wrote...

XOEmma wrote...


Damage control after everybody found out the ending was horrible.

The ending is really what gets me.

I could have lived with not liking the gameplay. Gameplay is not even why I play this series in the end, it's the characters and story, and I think a lot of people are the same way.

I didn't need a "happy" ending either. Just give me an ending where my CHOICES MATTER.

Problem with the ending is you don't have any idea what the consequences of it are. I'm talking about the choosing a colour bit, not the bit after that.

[mjharper]

WildcardCharlie wrote...

Janan Pacha wrote...

Bioware Social accounts keep track of the games you've registered, and they're linked to your EA account, it keeps track of DLC and bonuses you've paid for/unlocked, as well as games you've registered.

I don't know how it works, but I have several different EA accounts that I've used for Madden and Battlefield and all sorts of games, and I have no clue which one is associated with this forum account.

If people want to say I'm a troll cause it makes it easier to write off the criticism, then fine, go ahead and do so. But from what I can tell there's plenty of people in this thread alone who share some of my gripes.

And have any of them activated their copy of ME3 on BSN? If you own the game, register it and go have this discussion in the Story board with other people who've bought the game. If you're not prepared to do that, it's either because

i) you haven't played the game
ii) you have played the game but not legally
iii) because you're not actually interested in a discussion

If you don't want to be accused of trolling, stop hanging out in the General Discussion board posting threads without any proof you've played the game. Simple, really.

[WildcardCharlie]

mjharper wrote...

WildcardCharlie wrote...

Janan Pacha wrote...

Bioware Social accounts keep track of the games you've registered, and they're linked to your EA account, it keeps track of DLC and bonuses you've paid for/unlocked, as well as games you've registered.

I don't know how it works, but I have several different EA accounts that I've used for Madden and Battlefield and all sorts of games, and I have no clue which one is associated with this forum account.

If people want to say I'm a troll cause it makes it easier to write off the criticism, then fine, go ahead and do so. But from what I can tell there's plenty of people in this thread alone who share some of my gripes.

And have any of them activated their copy of ME3 on BSN? If you own the game, register it and go have this discussion in the Story board with other people who've bought the game. If you're not prepared to do that, it's either because

i) you haven't played the game
ii) you have played the game but not legally
iii) because you're not actually interested in a discussion

If you don't want to be accused of trolling, stop hanging out in the General Discussion board posting threads without any proof you've played the game. Simple, really.

The only people here not interested in a discussion are those like yourself who only want to hear praise. Just face it, you'll accuse anyone who doesn't like the game of being a "troll" or a "hater" and you'll tell them to leave.

Well too bad, cause I'm not going anywhere. If you don't like it, you can leave.

Modifié par WildcardCharlie, 06 mars 2012 - 12:39 .

[Kabanya101]

WildcardCharlie wrote...

After 5 years of loving this series...this is how it ends. With me absolutely HATING the third game and wishing I had never even bought Mass Effect. The fact that I invested all that time and came to care about these characters, all for it to end the way it did is just an extra punch in the gut.

Thanks for effectively removing the ability to control most of what my Shepard says.

Thanks for turning the combat system into Gears of War Lite.

Thanks for having a couple different small variations on the same ending for us to choose.

Thanks for making every relationship formed with a character over the years utterly pointless.

Thanks BioWare. You guys rule.

1) Removing the control over dialouge
- They did a terrible job on the dialouge in this game. Most of the time there was no neutral option and then the auto dialouge was annoying, but understandable. The autodialouge was neccessary for some parts when Shepard was revisiting characters from the old games, but not throughout the entire game like they did.

2) Gears of War combat
- EA and I say EA and NOT Bioware sees the sales figures for GoW, CoD, and Halo and they want to reach them by making the game more of a shooter and less of an RPG title. The combat is nice, but they focused the game to much on it. Yeah ME1 had great depth to characters and immersion but the combat was extremely flawed. I would take the flaw in combat any day.

3) Endings
- The endings were pointless. I catch their drift by having the control and synergy ending because that would be Shepard corrupted and following the ideas proposed by Saren or TIM. But I mean come on, the entire time playing the first to games, Shepard is all for destroying, what the hell is with the second thoughts. They should have made more variations to the destroy ending and dump the other two. The first two games had multiple factors to the ending, ME3 decides what happens to Shep's body and the Reapers, that's all, everything else predetermined.

4) Character relationships
- The "love" scenes were terrible again. It was almost like DA2 where you had limited dialouge with them. No depth to them. All the characters became 2D.

5) Bioware
- Don't be sarcastic to Bioware, they have made great titles and games in the past. If anyone is to blame, its EA. I'm not attacking anyone, but EA acts more like a business than a gaming company, they care more about the profits than the game itself. Bioware on the other hand, takes creating games seriously, that's why they strive to make their games the most life like. When EA seen the profits of the first game, they wanted to take more control, and that's the reason of the decline in the game.

I won't lie, I do like ME3, but compared to the first two, its mediocre. I will take ME1 any day over 2 and 3. I hate to say it, but the gaming industry is really going downhill, because everyone wants to be a shooter with an awesome online play.

[Bundin]

My my, why on earth do people think they can make demands about linking game to board account? Are you Bioware staff? Volunteer moderators? No? Then don't make demands. Maybe someone has 2 accounts: one for the games, one for the forums. Sensible thing to do, considering Origin's "we ban you from your games if you misbehave on the forums" policy I read about some months ago. Or maybe they're EU players that have to wait 3 more days until release.

Valid criticism is allowed. If you don't like a thread, then don't read it and don't post in it. If you disagree with someone and do want to post, then explain why you disagree. Give your opinion on the game, not on the other players. Attack arguments, not people.

And if you can't (or won't) behave like that, then please logout and go read-only.

About the game: I'm somewhat apprehensive. But I'll be fine in the end. Hated ME2 the first time I played it because of lack of depth, but enjoyed it after a few months. I shifted my expectations (choices don't matter much, there's no such thing as a big universe) and ended up with an ok game that has enough fluff in it to keep me happy. I'm sure I can do that again with ME3.

Modifié par Bundin, 06 mars 2012 - 12:46 .

[mjharper]

WildcardCharlie wrote...

The only people here not interested in a discussion are those like yourself who only want to hear praise. Just face it, you'll accuse anyone who doesn't like the game of being a "troll" or a "hater" and you'll tell them to leave.

Well too bad, cause I'm not going anywhere. If you don't like it, you can leave.

I never said I only want to hear praise. What I want to hear is valid, constructive criticism. And to achive that, you actually have to indictate that you know what you're talking about. In this case, that mean's proving you've played the game, and being willing to discuss with other people who've played the game.

Both of these are very easy to do. I'm sure you have a good reason why you're not prepared to do either.

[WildcardCharlie]

About the game: I'm somewhat apprehensive. But I'll be fine in the end. Hated ME2 the first time I played it because of lack of depth, but enjoyed it after a few months. I shifted my expectations (choices don't matter much, there's no such thing as a big universe) and ended up with an ok game that has enough fluff in it to keep me happy. I'm sure I can do that again with ME3.

See, but it's different for me this time. Because now, I can't play this game without thinking about the awful, terrible ending. I doubt I can even go back and enjoy ME1 or ME2 because all I'll be thinking about is how the ending of the series has rendered them totally pointless to me.

I just have to pray for a DLC that fixes it, even though I know it won't happen.

[WildcardCharlie]

mjharper wrote...

I never said I only want to hear praise. What I want to hear is valid, constructive criticism. And to achive that, you actually have to indictate that you know what you're talking about. In this case, that mean's proving you've played the game, and being willing to discuss with other people who've played the game.

Both of these are very easy to do. I'm sure you have a good reason why you're not prepared to do either.

Really all that needs to be said to you:

Bundin wrote...

My my, why on earth do people think they can make demands about linking
game to board account? Are you Bioware staff? Volunteer moderators? No?
Then don't make demands. Maybe someone has 2 accounts: one for the
games, one for the forums. Sensible thing to do, considering Origin's
"we ban you from your games if you misbehave on the forums" policy I
read about some months ago. Or maybe they're EU players that have to
wait 3 more days until release.

Valid criticism is allowed. If
you don't like a thread, then don't read it and don't post in it. If you
disagree with someone and do want to post, then explain why you
disagree. Give your opinion on the game, not on the other players.
Attack arguments, not people.

And if you can't (or won't) behave like that, then please logout and go read-only.

Modifié par WildcardCharlie, 06 mars 2012 - 12:53 .

[mjharper]

So when I ask you to back up your argument, your only response is to tell me to shut up? Nice work.

[WildcardCharlie]

mjharper wrote...

So when I ask you to back up your argument, your only response is to tell me to shut up? Nice work.

Is that kinda like how any time someone criticizes Mass Effect you say they're a troll and that they should shut up and get out because you only want to hear good things? Nice work.

[ttchip]

While I'm totally fine with you not liking the experience, TC, I'd like to point out that you could have fleshed out your OP a little. Right now it's great to polarize the people while doing little to instigate a(n unbiased) discussion [unless you wanted to achieve that... in that case go ahead and disregard my post ].

Modifié par ttchip, 06 mars 2012 - 01:03 .

[Domdeegrpgc]

I take issue with deriding the combat, then saying you loved ME2. The combat is much improved from ME2 (for one thing they actually made Biotic classes viable with the new weight system). That alone makes me not want to take your opinion seriously.

[Elite Midget]

This game could have gone under a different name, it's vastly different from the core that made up ME1 and ME2.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Remember to keep spoilers out of this section.

[Ywasibanned]

Elite Midget wrote...

This game could have gone under a different name, it's vastly different from the core that made up ME1 and ME2.

You've been critisizing the downturn of the franchise for quite a while. Did you buy ME3, Elite Midget?

[Elite Midget]

Ywasibanned wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

This game could have gone under a different name, it's vastly different from the core that made up ME1 and ME2.

You've been critisizing the downturn of the franchise for quite a while. Did you buy ME3, Elite Midget?

I'm playing ME3 right now, I can speak from personal experience this game is vastly different than ME1 and ME2 in more ways than just gameplay. I have very little control on what my Sheperd says and my previous game choices haven't amounted to anything even remotely productive.

Also, it's called foretelling. I said that this would be the end result for nearly a year. Many of you called me a liar and said Bioware would offer far more than this despite all the evidence, info, and logical points I brought up time and again. I simply find this ironic that I was right.

[mjharper]

WildcardCharlie wrote...

mjharper wrote...

So when I ask you to back up your argument, your only response is to tell me to shut up? Nice work.

Is that kinda like how any time someone criticizes Mass Effect you say they're a troll and that they should shut up and get out because you only want to hear good things? Nice work.

No, I asked you to back up your opinion. Prove that you've played the game, and discuss with other people who've played the game. It had nothing to do with praise or hate.

I personally think that the start of ME3 is the weakest of the series so far, and it took me several hours to begin to enjoy the game properly. The preorder bonuses haven't been released yet. There's some buggy camera work where character's heads twist over their shoulders. These are criticisms based on my experience of having played (but not completed) the game.

There's some stuff to like. There's some stuff to gripe about. Now the game has been released, we can actually talk about it based on experience, rather than speculation. And since there's an easy way to prove that you're not speculating (and/or trolling), why not do it?

Modifié par mjharper, 06 mars 2012 - 01:08 .

[panamakira]

So I have played like a couple of hours so far but I'm so sleepy that I won't remember anything if I keep playing. However I'm upset because of TWO MAJOR things. I don't hate the game or anything crazy yet but I have noticed a few things that just annoy me:

1) No ME2 face codes transfer. It took me forever to recreate my Fem Shep and she still looks really different to the one form ME 1+2

2) When I imported my ME2 character it didn't ask me what mode I wanted to play in. So I check settings and I have it as "Make FULL DECISIONS", so I'm guessing that's RPG mode? Can anybody help me with this? Yet my Fem Shep speaks most of the cutscene dialog and when I get the wheel of choices, which in about TWO HOURS of gameplay, I think I picked about 5-6 times throughout the game. My Shep just says whatever she wants. It feels so weird specially after ME2 which I thought it was a good balance.

My question is do I have a bug because of the ME2 import? Like what is going on.....It's like I'm watching a movie. Does anybody know if it gets better later on? I literally keep getting 2 choices.

I'm frustrated about it but I don't know if it's my game or if Bioware really DID it this time~

:/

[Niddy']

Auto dialog, auto dialog everywhere. I feel like I'm on auto-pilot and not liking it.

Modifié par Niddy', 06 mars 2012 - 01:10 .

[joe1852]

call the police there has been a murder!!!!!!!!! dun dun dun

[Elite Midget]

Niddy' wrote...

Auto dialog, auto dialog everywhere. I feel like I'm on auto-pilot and not liking it.

It is sad that after all this build up, all these choices, and building relationships for 2 games that this is the end result of it all. Where did Bioware fail? Was it  EA, variables, a combintion of both, or many other things simply going the wrong way?