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[aim1essgun]

Almostfaceman wrote...

......[many good things].....

I'm talking straight to you Bioware, not anyone else, so I hope we're clear on this. 

Fix it. <_<

I posted my opinion in other thread, posted in this thread as well, first posted here. In case one is shut down due to duplicate threads.

Nice post, even if you're talking to bioware and not anyone else

[Golferguy758]

Well it's a potential gold mine. I'm not sure what sales figures were for ME3, but I'll be conservative and say 2 million.
Assume 75% were so disgusted by the endings that they want something else. They want their happy ending, they want their choices to matter, whatever. That leaves 1.5 million

Say 50% of those people would be willing to shell out 10 dollars for alternate ending DLC, I'm one of them even though I feel as though it should have been in the game in the first place. That leaves 750,000 people.

750,000 people x $10 is 7.5 million dollars. Even after paying for additional work done, even after paying for all that I'm sure EA/Bioware will be laughing in their money pit.

[map_]

The bit about mass relays destroying solar systems can be explained away. They lose all their energy while shooting the final beam of the color of your choice.

Graphically and musically the ending was beautiful but I just can't fathom how the writing could have passed any kind of review. I can only guess they ran out of time. In my mind that would be the most reasonable explanation for a missing text epilogue too.

[Arykel515]

The reapers goal is really something that irks me as its so dumb. You could have left it UNEXPLAINED and it would be better. I mean when sovereign said that their goals were incomprehensible then you could have left it there and not tried to explain it as its beyond human perception, but all we do need to know is basically life as we know it would be destroyed like with the protheans.

What would have made more sense though was the way I thought they may have been going from ME2, where they re purposed the Protheans into the collectors and where using the organic material of the colonists to make that sort of human reaper thing - that our galaxy, and maybe others were kind of farms, where they left the relays left some life to grow and develop then came and harvested or even reaped, the organics, for materials and for use as in the collectors.

To my mind this would have made more sense.

The holes in the ending are what really get my motor going, how similar they are & with no extrapolation of the ramifications of these last actions. I would have liked 2/3 more endings. 1) You cannot win, reapers wipe all out, starting cycle again, 2) A much more positive ending for all the work you have done paying off, some loses/some crew die but theres a chance for the crew to not be stranded in the sticks and Shepard be with them, with/without LI & 3) Reapers win, buuuuuuut through Shepards actions there is something left, so when the cycle comes full circle next time the organics will have a chance to break it.

[IanPolaris]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Well it's a potential gold mine. I'm not sure what sales figures were for ME3, but I'll be conservative and say 2 million.
Assume 75% were so disgusted by the endings that they want something else. They want their happy ending, they want their choices to matter, whatever. That leaves 1.5 million

Say 50% of those people would be willing to shell out 10 dollars for alternate ending DLC, I'm one of them even though I feel as though it should have been in the game in the first place. That leaves 750,000 people.

750,000 people x $10 is 7.5 million dollars. Even after paying for additional work done, even after paying for all that I'm sure EA/Bioware will be laughing in their money pit.

If the unscientific polling on BSN is any indication, then I'd say that 75% is low.  I'd estimate that anywhere from 90 to 95% of the people that have actually played through ME3 are disgusted by the ending.

-Polaris

[Lost Cipher]

The real problem Arykel515 is that any other ending would have made more sense.

[Golferguy758]

IanPolaris wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Well it's a potential gold mine. I'm not sure what sales figures were for ME3, but I'll be conservative and say 2 million.
Assume 75% were so disgusted by the endings that they want something else. They want their happy ending, they want their choices to matter, whatever. That leaves 1.5 million

Say 50% of those people would be willing to shell out 10 dollars for alternate ending DLC, I'm one of them even though I feel as though it should have been in the game in the first place. That leaves 750,000 people.

750,000 people x $10 is 7.5 million dollars. Even after paying for additional work done, even after paying for all that I'm sure EA/Bioware will be laughing in their money pit.

If the unscientific polling on BSN is any indication, then I'd say that 75% is low.  I'd estimate that anywhere from 90 to 95% of the people that have actually played through ME3 are disgusted by the ending.

-Polaris

I took a lowball estimate because while 90-95% agree with the assessment on the endings on a forum, in the actual world sample I'm sure many people would just accept it and move on. For all I know it could be higher, I just figured I'd play devil's advocate and take a low number.

[djneohlp]

map_ wrote...
 I can only guess they ran out of time. In my mind that would be the most reasonable explanation for a missing text epilogue too.

Thats no excuse for them..
if you look on the filedates: 
the final release build was made on 31.01.2012.. over a month till release
you can do much things in a month if you want..

[PinkysPain]

Bad endings remove player agency ... what it's about is ego tripping by the writer. In the players losing, he feels like he is winning.

Modifié par PinkysPain, 08 mars 2012 - 11:48 .

[I can Hackett]

has anyone completed the game on insanity anyone consider a Halo type ending completed on legendary

[Cuddlezarro]

I can Hackett wrote...

has anyone completed the game on insanity anyone consider a Halo type ending completed on legendary

my first and only runthrough was on insanity and nope nothing extra for beating it

[Nick.Chabby]

A question about the ending. Just been browsing the game files and found out that there were two versions for the control one:

LondonBlueBad
LondonBlueGood

It's essentially the same, except in the bad one, the London clock tower explose, the soldiers aren't waving in happiness and London is in fire. Anybody knows what choices change the outcomes of this one?

In any case, the Citadel isn't destroyed (so we can assume Shepard trapped 'inside', virtually speaking). If only we had answers about that...

Modifié par Nick.Chabby, 08 mars 2012 - 11:50 .

[djneohlp]

I can Hackett wrote...

has anyone completed the game on insanity anyone consider a Halo type ending completed on legendary

how could anyone?
there are no other endings.. there are no other cutscenes left.
any other ending must have to be live rendered...

[djneohlp]

Nick.Chabby wrote...

A question about the ending. Just been browsing the game files and found out that there were two versions for the control one:

LondonBlueBad
LondonBlueGood

It's essentially the same, except in the bad one, the London clock tower explose, the soldiers aren't waving in happiness and London is in fire.

In any case, the Citadel isn't destroyed (so we can assume Shepard trapped 'inside', virtually speaking). If only we had answers about that...

you are dead if you choose blue or green...
and in blue the citadel isn't destroyed because shep is in control of the reapers and they are leaving

Modifié par djneohlp, 08 mars 2012 - 11:51 .

[Nick.Chabby]

djneohlp wrote...
you are dead if you choose blue or green...

Actually, we are dead whatever we choose.
If you choose Red, the Citadel is destroyed with Shepard onboard, so there's no way he/she can survive this.
If you choose Green... well, it's already explicit.

But if you choose Blue, Shepard just disappears, even though the child says we die, I don't understand how a dead person can control Reapers. So likely, part of Shepard survived and ended 'inside' the Citadel and since it wasn't destroyed, Shepard can still be... Accessed? Saved? Contacted? Like Overlord DLC where we were in contact with a virtual entity.

[Sashimi_taco]

I'm looking through the place I moderate and other forums for Mass Effect 3. Every single person who has completed that game has said they cannot bring themselves to do another playthrough. They are so upset about the endings, and they feel betrayed. I'm getting this from every forum I see.

Not only that, but the anger and bitterness is getting pretty high, giving me extra work to do. I feel sorry for the Mods of this forum since they have probably 100 times more moderating than I have to do right now.

[djneohlp]

Nick.Chabby wrote...

djneohlp wrote...
you are dead if you choose blue or green...

Actually, we are dead whatever we choose.
If you choose Red, the Citadel is destroyed with Shepard onboard, so there's no way he/she can survive this.
If you choose Green... well, it's already explicit.

But if you choose Blue, Shepard just disappears, even though the child says we die, I don't understand how a dead person can control Reapers. So likely, part of Shepard survived and ended 'inside' the Citadel and since it wasn't destroyed, Shepard can still be... Accessed? Saved? Contacted? Like Overlord DLC where we were in contact with a virtual entity.

you are controlling them with your mind saved in their computers... matrix style

then that whole shepard lies in debree cutsceen makes no sense..
in red you have a slight chance to survive and in that cutscene you see a dead reaper lying in the background. that makes at least small sense

Modifié par djneohlp, 08 mars 2012 - 11:56 .

[darthoptimus003]

im just to pissed to really care if i ever play me series again after what i just seen from this game it was complete BS is all i can say and the said part is i dont think anyone at bioware really cares that they just destroyed a great seris or just allinated a hellva lot of there very loyal fans with this crap its bs

[Nick.Chabby]

djneohlp wrote...

you are controlling them with your mind saved in their computers... matrix style

then that whole shepard lies in debree cutsceen makes no sense..
in red you have a slight chance to survive and in that cutscene you see a dead reaper lying in the background. that makes at least small sense

Shepard lies in debris => Destroying ending => Shepard survives. But for now, we haven't seen it yet this (referring to the debris cutscene)

Modifié par Nick.Chabby, 09 mars 2012 - 12:02 .

[djneohlp]

Nick.Chabby wrote...

djneohlp wrote...

you are controlling them with your mind saved in their computers... matrix style

then that whole shepard lies in debree cutsceen makes no sense..
in red you have a slight chance to survive and in that cutscene you see a dead reaper lying in the background. that makes at least small sense

Shepard lies in debree => Destroying ending => Shepard survives. But for now, we haven't seen it yet this (referring to the debris cutscene)

yeah we havent.. but is there.. and i think for a reason and not for fun..

[CorvisRex]

djneohlp wrote...

another possibillity:
they make such an b********sht end that you
a) buy dlc
to play the new content
c) to play the end again to see if something has changed...

Yeah, but if this is what they wanted, they truely misread, and misunderstood their audience.  What they are going to get is

1)  People who would run the game 5-10 times will instead simply uninstall it.
2)  People will be so angry that they might never buy a Bioware game again
3)  End all possibilities of any future Mass Effect universe related products (books, comics, future games, Movie) ever selling again, because the target audience is so disgusted they say "What's the Point?"

They have betrayed their audience's trust, emotions and loyalties. Such a betrayal is rarely forgiven easily.  If someone in real life toyed with my emotions like this, I would probably never speak to them again.

Whatever their intentions, what they got is textbook Podiatry Balistics.

[djneohlp]

djneohlp wrote...

Nick.Chabby wrote...

djneohlp wrote...

you are controlling them with your mind saved in their computers... matrix style

then that whole shepard lies in debree cutsceen makes no sense..
in red you have a slight chance to survive and in that cutscene you see a dead reaper lying in the background. that makes at least small sense

Shepard lies in debree => Destroying ending => Shepard survives. But for now, we haven't seen it yet this (referring to the debris cutscene)

yeah we havent.. but is there.. and i think for a reason and not for fun..
really that smells like a cameo like the one to release of ME2...

[Sashimi_taco]

Does anyone know if people were this upset about the end of mass effect 2? That game had 2 main endings but we got to save everyone. I just want to make sure this reaction will be taken seriously because i want a real change for this.

[Faraborne]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Does anyone know if people were this upset about the end of mass effect 2? That game had 2 main endings but we got to save everyone. I just want to make sure this reaction will be taken seriously because i want a real change for this.

If I recall the majority of people LOVED the ending for ME2.  My memory is weak considering I was running around in euphoria at how awesome the ending of ME2 was.

[djneohlp]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Does anyone know if people were this upset about the end of mass effect 2? That game had 2 main endings but we got to save everyone. I just want to make sure this reaction will be taken seriously because i want a real change for this.

why should they have been upset?
it was your choice who and how much of your mates survived...
this is... *no words*