Parker Stephenson wrote...
I think we all should collaborate on actually doing something about this, because we all love this game series, we all agree that something needs to be done, so let's come up with an idea to take action about it! (just as your created Shepard would do)
Faraborne wrote...
I received this from a friend who just beat ME3. This was his solution to the ending problem:
Proposal is as follows:
There should be a fourth option available at the end - and the beauty of it is that it would naturally branch in a way that satisfies both of the outcomes people are asking for.
Right now, the Guardian presents us with three options - destroy, control, and merge. Each are depressingly self-destructive in their own ways, and as we all know, we have no choice but to pick one. DLC could add a fourth option: REFUSE.
Shepard stabs a defiant finger in the Guardian's chest and declares it is not their right to "protect" us from the consequences of our own actions. If peace was forged between the Quarians and the Geth, Shepard cites that as proof that the Guardian's premise of inevitable conflict between synthetics and organics is wrong. If not, Shepard can simply deny the Guardian's conclusion and declare that we're going to go down fighting. Shepard delivers an ultimatum: take your abominations and go. Whether we live as a civilization or die by our own hand is a choice to be left to every one of us. So, f*** you very much, but thanks for thinking of us.
The Guardian blows off Shepard's ultimatum, and the Reapers continue to fight. At this point, the outcome is out of your hands. Shepard watches, unable to intervene, as the fleets continue to engage, the forces of the galaxy attempting to defeat the Reapers once and for all in conventional combat. The Guardian taunts you, trying to goad you into choosing one of the three options it offered, while assuming the forms of different people you've lost along the way: Virmire casualty, Anderson, and your love interest, dead or alive, just to screw with you. You can change your mind, or continue to stand and watch. If you gathered enough war assets (as in, much higher than the required amount for the "perfect" ending we're given now), the Reapers are defeated at horrific cost, but the Relay network remains intact, and Shepard gets to reunite with his/her LI and squad provided the Normandy survived the fight (itself dependent on other criteria). This would be the hardest ending to achieve, requiring the greatest effort and providing the most reward. You would really have to work your ass off to do this, but as evidenced by this poll, most of the people here would be willing to try.
If you didn't have enough resources, the Reapers emerge victorious, and, having defeated the combined military might of the galaxy, they are free to harvest everyone else. The cycle continues. They win. Either way, you get to spit in the devil's face once more instead of bowing to the invariably self-destructive choice he offers you.
Me: I personally think this solution would be profound. Furthermore, it really gives five endings for the game. If you we're not fully prepared for the war, then Shepherd allows the Reapers to win without sacrificing his integrity (which would be a major win in my book). Finally, if you were fully prepared then you receive the most rewarding ending possible with what I think could potentially be one of the most creative boss fights in gaming history...a battle of wills alone.
Valadras21 wrote...
Just beat the game and the only thing I feel is rage and disgust.
I wish I'd never played this series, that's how FOS the ending is. I wish I'd never gotten so invested in the characters and the story. What a pathetic waste.
I love these games. I don't live a glamorous life. I'm stuck in a tough situation, small family, barely any friends. Because of that, Shepard and the people on his squad have a dear place in my heart. Shepard feels like an extension of me. I think back on all the great fights, my squad (who feel just as much like friends to me, as the do to my Shep), and the love shared between my Shepard and Tali. I felt alive when I got to experience those things. Shepard's emotions were my emotions, and vice-versa.
Now I just feel like my heart turned to stone, I feel physically numb, and I don't want to care about anything right now.
Golferguy758 wrote...
I love you. Almost as much as I love Tali.
Nick.Chabby wrote...
A question about the ending. Just been browsing the game files and found out that there were two versions for the control one:
LondonBlueBad
LondonBlueGood
It's essentially the same, except in the bad one, the London clock tower explose, the soldiers aren't waving in happiness and London is in fire. Anybody knows what choices change the outcomes of this one?
In any case, the Citadel isn't destroyed (so we can assume Shepard trapped 'inside', virtually speaking). If only we had answers about that...
Modifié par Rossa14, 09 mars 2012 - 01:17 .
Faraborne wrote...
Parker Stephenson wrote...
I think we all should collaborate on actually doing something about this, because we all love this game series, we all agree that something needs to be done, so let's come up with an idea to take action about it! (just as your created Shepard would do)
Is there a talented web designer on this forum? We could all join an organization and send a petition to Bioware. Hell, we could even all show up in front of Bioware's offices. Road trip anyone?
Lyriq wrote...
Faraborne wrote...
I received this from a friend who just beat ME3. This was his solution to the ending problem:
Proposal is as follows:
There should be a fourth option available at the end - and the beauty of it is that it would naturally branch in a way that satisfies both of the outcomes people are asking for.
Right now, the Guardian presents us with three options - destroy, control, and merge. Each are depressingly self-destructive in their own ways, and as we all know, we have no choice but to pick one. DLC could add a fourth option: REFUSE.
Shepard stabs a defiant finger in the Guardian's chest and declares it is not their right to "protect" us from the consequences of our own actions. If peace was forged between the Quarians and the Geth, Shepard cites that as proof that the Guardian's premise of inevitable conflict between synthetics and organics is wrong. If not, Shepard can simply deny the Guardian's conclusion and declare that we're going to go down fighting. Shepard delivers an ultimatum: take your abominations and go. Whether we live as a civilization or die by our own hand is a choice to be left to every one of us. So, f*** you very much, but thanks for thinking of us.
The Guardian blows off Shepard's ultimatum, and the Reapers continue to fight. At this point, the outcome is out of your hands. Shepard watches, unable to intervene, as the fleets continue to engage, the forces of the galaxy attempting to defeat the Reapers once and for all in conventional combat. The Guardian taunts you, trying to goad you into choosing one of the three options it offered, while assuming the forms of different people you've lost along the way: Virmire casualty, Anderson, and your love interest, dead or alive, just to screw with you. You can change your mind, or continue to stand and watch. If you gathered enough war assets (as in, much higher than the required amount for the "perfect" ending we're given now), the Reapers are defeated at horrific cost, but the Relay network remains intact, and Shepard gets to reunite with his/her LI and squad provided the Normandy survived the fight (itself dependent on other criteria). This would be the hardest ending to achieve, requiring the greatest effort and providing the most reward. You would really have to work your ass off to do this, but as evidenced by this poll, most of the people here would be willing to try.
If you didn't have enough resources, the Reapers emerge victorious, and, having defeated the combined military might of the galaxy, they are free to harvest everyone else. The cycle continues. They win. Either way, you get to spit in the devil's face once more instead of bowing to the invariably self-destructive choice he offers you.
Me: I personally think this solution would be profound. Furthermore, it really gives five endings for the game. If you we're not fully prepared for the war, then Shepherd allows the Reapers to win without sacrificing his integrity (which would be a major win in my book). Finally, if you were fully prepared then you receive the most rewarding ending possible with what I think could potentially be one of the most creative boss fights in gaming history...a battle of wills alone.
I had this same idea when I was playing the game: Why can't I just say "screw you" to the space ghost and try and fight it out? So much of the series revolved around free will and self-determination, so why is the ending just the opposite? This would make the EMF actually MATTER as opposed to the cosmetic differences it only now affects.
Atraiyu Wrynn wrote...
"It's not the destination-it's the journey"
Was more or less the defense the creators of Lost used after they were hammered for the crap ending to that series. It's the last refuge of writers who are in over their heads.
Modifié par Faraborne, 09 mars 2012 - 01:32 .
sirgippy wrote...
Yeah, I will add my voice to the pain. I just finished and definitely feel gutted. I wish the weapon would have just gone off while sitting with Andersen and be done with it. I had intended to jump immediately into another playthru but find myself just sitting here.
Parker Stephenson wrote...
Depends on you Galactic readiness rating and you total amount of war assets, if they aren't high enough your Shepard dies regardless, so either way it wouldn't matter and all mass relays are destroyed in all choices, personally I'd go with red
Legionaire-Shen wrote...
wow, that's really the best solution, let our own effort decide the outcome, which may require a 3 game playthrough to get, as you need to plan to get all asset from me1, but new players are screwed and need to play mp because default shep is a failed one
Modifié par Faraborne, 09 mars 2012 - 01:37 .
Nick.Chabby wrote...
Guys, how do we get this ending?
Faraborne wrote...
Nick.Chabby wrote...
Guys, how do we get this ending?
I got it first time by choosing red ending/kill all synthetics (which oh btw didn't make sense since Reapers aren't synthetics).
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