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#51
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I found the endings fine, and the explanation of the Reapers fine, I mean, it brings up further questions but then not all questions are answerable, you can't just have a 60 minute Q&A in the end, circumstances don't allow it, not to mention after a while it'd become a bit like when you're a child asking 'why' constantly, where the adult inevitably will end up turning around and saying "because it just is."

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it seems to me the controll ending spares the citadel and "just" overload the relays instead of completly desintegrating

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Ravanofdarkness wrote...

So i've got done playing through Mass Effect 3 and checkt out all three diffrent Endings and gotta say, i hope there's a secret Ending because those Endings where just terrible.

Ending Blue: Has Shepard Sacrificing himself to take Controle of the Reapers and sending them back from where ever they came from.

Ending Green: Is the same as Ending Blue but with the fact that everyone in the Galaxie having their DNA overwritten to become half Machine and half Human/Asari/Krogan etc...

Ending Red: Has Shepard destroying the Reapers and staying alive.

But all those Ending share the same Goal of having all the Mass Relays destroyed, which is personally something i don't like, i would of preferred an Ending like Red with the Mass Relays intact and continuing the Story as a Hero and see everything getting Rebuild etc... really hope BioWare has another Ending besides those.

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We don't have a satisfying conclusion to a trilogy where we invested hundreds of hours upon, but we have DeusEx copypasta!

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The biggest dissapointment to me is, the ultimate ending has nothing to do with what you have done before, which makes the war assets thing meaningless.

Currently 3 endings are all pyrrhic victory, and what I hoped to see is the ending go from total reaper victory when have less than x%, to total organic victory with full assets and made certain choices, the current one could be the ending when you have 80-90% asset.

The game doesnt even tell me whether shep survived the red ending when citadel explode. also if the wave knockdown normandy, shouldnt it knockdown all those ships around earth?

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My issue is the LI being gods know where if they are form your squad.

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OriginalTibs wrote...

I write a story. Though my same words are read, you fill those words with your meanings and create your story within you. If I wrote it really well, and you read really well, I will be able to sway you into reading the story I wrote.

You can judge and critique your reading of a story, but unless you are particularly adept at reading you cannot credibly say much about what was read, only how you read it.


This is a story about Tim. Tim is an ordinary 18 year old teenager who leads an ordinary life with his family. Tim bickers with his elder sister everyday. This conflict leaves Tim sad. His sister enjoys scolding him 'Pea brain'. Today Tim is very sad, his sister called him a tiny pea brain, not just a pea brain, but a tiny one! Tim commits suicide.

This is an extremely emotional story, I find great merit in it with depth and complexity if you are able to read it right. It should leave you weeping and moved, leave you perplexed with life, human motivations and family bonding / conflicts.

Don't feel it? Wrong, you're just a bad reader. I like your logic.

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You read my words and interpreted them with your expectations. Your expectations however may not match well with the story I was relating.

So too with the Mass Effect endings. You don't know (nor do I) the context that these endings are pregnant with. Bioware may. The authors surely do.

I am asserting something about the nature of art that I think is true. You're affected. Art is an interior event.

This is a fact about subjective comprehension: It may not be immediately obvious.


BioWare has stated that the ending should leave no questions. In stories there can be mildly different interpretations of one's perspective of an ambigous character (I.E. whether he is doing it to fulfil his selfish desires, or because he actually truely loves the girl in a movie). However an ending is always meant to be conclusive in a series finale. No, you don't leave a cliffhanger on the ending of a trilogy. 

You don't leave viewers hanging at the end of a trilogy when you specifically stated it will be satisfactory and conclusive ending which leaves no loose strings.

The ending is a disappointment, period.

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I thought the game was fantastic and would have been a 10/10 for me, except the ending/s ruined it. I agree with the general complaints that it was like your choices didn't matter, and for me I thought it was too depressing. I wanted to have at least one ending where Shepard got to walk off into the sunset with his love interest and live happily ever after. I have no idea how Bioware can fix this; with patches or downloadable content, but I really hope they respond to this problem soon.

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J5550123 wrote...

I thought the game was fantastic and would have been a 10/10 for me, except the ending/s ruined it. I agree with the general complaints that it was like your choices didn't matter, and for me I thought it was too depressing. I wanted to have at least one ending where Shepard got to walk off into the sunset with his love interest and live happily ever after. I have no idea how Bioware can fix this; with patches or downloadable content, but I really hope they respond to this problem soon.


According to some forum poster who claims to have talked to a dev, they are not.  And we're lucky to get what we have.  (paraphrasing, but that's the jist I got) :wizard:

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I will say that I thought this game was great and the story (aside from the "endings" ) was quite good, I enjoyed the humor, and I thought they did a better job with Shep's interpersonal relationships, and I think they did a good job with the whole galaxy at war theme. EVERYTHING about Mass Effect 3 more or less was what I hoped it would be except...

Yes, the ending. The endings are pretty meh, and from what I can tell no matter which you choose, they are all pretty similar. Yeah, they are technically different, but the cinematics and feel you get from all the endings are pretty much exactly the same, with minor differences.

The ending felt completely disconnected from the rest of the game and entirely unrelated to everything and everybody else in the story. It felt incredibly forced and it did indeed leave some unsatisfying cliff hangers.

This is definitely a bit of a dissapointing blow to those who bought this game mostly to tie up the story, which is just about everybody who was a fan of the prior games. At least I think it certainly is.

It's not "terrible" it's just not nearly satisfying enough for an otherwise great trilogy... Just doesn't do Shepard or the rest of the story justice.

Anyways, I can't say I have any suggestions as to what exactly I would prefer for endings, not these ones though. I'm not unhappy that I bought the game, still a fun game still worth the money to play, but next time BioWare promises me an epic story-driven game with tons of amazing choices and a satisfying ending, I will probably ignore them.

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SE JN wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

I thought the game was fantastic and would have been a 10/10 for me, except the ending/s ruined it. I agree with the general complaints that it was like your choices didn't matter, and for me I thought it was too depressing. I wanted to have at least one ending where Shepard got to walk off into the sunset with his love interest and live happily ever after. I have no idea how Bioware can fix this; with patches or downloadable content, but I really hope they respond to this problem soon.


According to some forum poster who claims to have talked to a dev, they are not.  And we're lucky to get what we have.  (paraphrasing, but that's the jist I got) :wizard:


It's a shame really. The past two games and the third game set this up for an epic conclusion, but instead it looks like Bioware just didn't seem to care about the endings too much. I heard there were supposed to be tons of different variations but I guess not. :(

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Ravanofdarkness wrote...

So i've got done playing through Mass Effect 3 and checkt out all three diffrent Endings and gotta say, i hope there's a secret Ending because those Endings where just terrible.

Ending Blue: Has Shepard Sacrificing himself to take Controle of the Reapers and sending them back from where ever they came from.

Ending Green: Is the same as Ending Blue but with the fact that everyone in the Galaxie having their DNA overwritten to become half Machine and half Human/Asari/Krogan etc...

Ending Red: Has Shepard destroying the Reapers and staying alive.

But all those Ending share the same Goal of having all the Mass Relays destroyed, which is personally something i don't like, i would of preferred an Ending like Red with the Mass Relays intact and continuing the Story as a Hero and see everything getting Rebuild etc... really hope BioWare has another Ending besides those.



I'm not sure If I got that any of those ending.  What happened for me was  Shepard shots the power core on the Citadel which distroyed all synthetic life in in the universe and all the mass effect relays. Joker and the Normady are mid jump when this happens for some reason this causes the normandy to crash land on some jungle looking panet. The door on the normandy opens (showing nothing) and the Credits Roll.  After the Credits A kid and the kid's (assumed) grandfather are talking and the kid asks if that sorry was ture and asks if he his grandfather will tell him more stories about "The Shepard"  

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J5550123 wrote...

SE JN wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

I thought the game was fantastic and would have been a 10/10 for me, except the ending/s ruined it. I agree with the general complaints that it was like your choices didn't matter, and for me I thought it was too depressing. I wanted to have at least one ending where Shepard got to walk off into the sunset with his love interest and live happily ever after. I have no idea how Bioware can fix this; with patches or downloadable content, but I really hope they respond to this problem soon.


According to some forum poster who claims to have talked to a dev, they are not.  And we're lucky to get what we have.  (paraphrasing, but that's the jist I got) :wizard:


It's a shame really. The past two games and the third game set this up for an epic conclusion, but instead it looks like Bioware just didn't seem to care about the endings too much. I heard there were supposed to be tons of different variations but I guess not. :(


At this point, yeah, you got me.  It's just odd, you know?  You'd think that with an entire forum kinda going up in arms, there would at least be a statement, officially saying one way or ther other.

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Celrath wrote...

Ravanofdarkness wrote...

So i've got done playing through Mass Effect 3 and checkt out all three diffrent Endings and gotta say, i hope there's a secret Ending because those Endings where just terrible.

Ending Blue: Has Shepard Sacrificing himself to take Controle of the Reapers and sending them back from where ever they came from.

Ending Green: Is the same as Ending Blue but with the fact that everyone in the Galaxie having their DNA overwritten to become half Machine and half Human/Asari/Krogan etc...

Ending Red: Has Shepard destroying the Reapers and staying alive.

But all those Ending share the same Goal of having all the Mass Relays destroyed, which is personally something i don't like, i would of preferred an Ending like Red with the Mass Relays intact and continuing the Story as a Hero and see everything getting Rebuild etc... really hope BioWare has another Ending besides those.

Heavy spoiler High light below I know this is the spoiler section I just want to be sure :-) 

I'm not sure If I got that any of those ending.  What happened for me was  Shepard shots the power core on the Citadel which distroyed all synthetic life in in the universe and all the mass effect relays. Joker and the Normady are mid jump when this happens for some reason this causes the normandy to crash land on some jungle looking panet. The door on the normandy opens (showing nothing) and the Credits Roll.  After the Credits A kid and the kid's (assumed) grandfather are talking and the kid asks if that sorry was ture and asks if he his grandfather will tell him more stories about "The Shepard"  


That is more or less the ending that everybody gets. I have yet to hear of somebody getting an ending that is different from this, and I have seen a few and talked to various people about their endings.

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SE JN wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

SE JN wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

I thought the game was fantastic and would have been a 10/10 for me, except the ending/s ruined it. I agree with the general complaints that it was like your choices didn't matter, and for me I thought it was too depressing. I wanted to have at least one ending where Shepard got to walk off into the sunset with his love interest and live happily ever after. I have no idea how Bioware can fix this; with patches or downloadable content, but I really hope they respond to this problem soon.


According to some forum poster who claims to have talked to a dev, they are not.  And we're lucky to get what we have.  (paraphrasing, but that's the jist I got) :wizard:


It's a shame really. The past two games and the third game set this up for an epic conclusion, but instead it looks like Bioware just didn't seem to care about the endings too much. I heard there were supposed to be tons of different variations but I guess not. :(


At this point, yeah, you got me.  It's just odd, you know?  You'd think that with an entire forum kinda going up in arms, there would at least be a statement, officially saying one way or ther other.


That's what I was thinking. I figured there would be some sort of official comment on this thread or another about the endings, but nothing yet. Everyone seems disappointed and they can't just ignore that. I've loved this series for years, and it was my favorite game series ever. The first two games are 10/10 games for me, but I can't even figure out what to score this one. The ending just leaves such a downer on the whole experience.

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The other thing I want to point out is they did say it was possible to completely and utterly fail the mission and have the the galaxy fall to the Reapers and complete the cycle, but I'm not seeing how this is even possible. If it possible, you would have to intentionally screw up like half the main story. Otherwise, you will probably succeed, even if means that some of the other civs get wiped out (although you never hear about that either)

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the endings are "okay" but i really, really can't understand the plot holes through it. Normandy away from the battle has NO EXPLANATION whatsoever. Harbinger making a very, very brief appearance was a letdown for me too.

Well, at least my Shepard survived (apparently) and i will headcanon him searching his friends.

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Sargerus wrote...

the endings are "okay" but i really, really can't understand the plot holes through it. Normandy away from the battle has NO EXPLANATION whatsoever. Harbinger making a very, very brief appearance was a letdown for me too.

Well, at least my Shepard survived (apparently) and i will headcanon him searching his friends.


I was kind of dissapointed that they pretty much completely removed Harbinger from the equation and just threw him in with the rest of the generic reapers. It's fine that they made TIM the main bad guy and what not, but they pretty much ignored any other possible antagonists. It was just TIM and then the boy at the end who was more just kind a neutralish character.

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So.. dissapointed..

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Sargerus wrote...

the endings are "okay" but i really, really can't understand the plot holes through it. Normandy away from the battle has NO EXPLANATION whatsoever. Harbinger making a very, very brief appearance was a letdown for me too.

Well, at least my Shepard survived (apparently) and i will headcanon him searching his friends.

What ending did you pick and how many points did you have?

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The other thing I want to point out is they did say it was possible to completely and utterly fail the mission and have the the galaxy fall to the Reapers and complete the cycle, but I'm not seeing how this is even possible. If it possible, you would have to intentionally screw up like half the main story. Otherwise, you will probably succeed, even if means that some of the other civs get wiped out (although you never hear about that either)

The made a lot of promises and broke them then. I did mention this in the review thread and explained that the scores are too high for me, but the contribution was censored immediately. BioWare shows no interest in dialogue with the customers. (Except praises and hoorays, of course...)

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Prince_Valiant wrote...

Instead a ****storm, we could let know Bioware our disappoinment on a civilized manner:

http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

I did my vote already, perhaps there's a friendly heart at Bioware who will show mercy to us poor sensitive people. :blush:


thanks.  i voted.  I paid for broken steel dlc, I'd pay for a dlc that gets me a better ending.  Without it,  I'll play for awhile, but not for 3 years, and future games willl not be the expensive pre-order.  Too bad.  

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OriginalTibs wrote...

Or we could accept that we are not the authors and are therefore unqualified to dictate the artistry of the story.


Sure.  That's an option.  And if that's what they want to do, then I'm sure they will have other people come along to replace the funds they lose from my lack of future purchases.  I don't pay for games that leave me depressed.:)

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I honestly couldnt care less if Bioware killed off every single character in the game and the reapers won the war. My gripe is that the endings just seem very lazy almost like the writer(s) got there and realized "oh crap we have to end this thing". I guess its really no different from the other two games but we knew there was another game coming after each of those. I just cant shake the feeling that were going to see another Mass Effect.

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I don't understand how all the time put into the past 2 games and the many decisions we make = same ending for all?

My expectations had several endings to “play to” depending on my decisions, it seems we all get funneled into this one static ending.

Disappointing, but hey… they made their $$ that’s what this one seem to focus on.

PS – why did they bother with the multi player thing, be better if they spent that time / money / dev on 3-4 endings IMO, plenty of games out there that already do that and it seems not to fit in ME esp the final one?