Mass Effect 3 - Endings
#1101
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 02:26
#1102
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 02:34
Modifié par Xellith, 10 mars 2012 - 02:36 .
#1103
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 02:44
I mean hell maybe I could have accepted this more if the endings had been unique and had at least had a little thought put into them but they just felt... lazy and rushed in. All 3 endings = the same basic cutscene ending? Frankly someone should have known that this series deserved better. It also deserved more than a VERY poorly implemented deus ex machina ending (come on guys, these are getting played out and are not innovative anymore)
I don't know, it's just so sad to see such a great game with so much build up ruined but the one facet that should have been handled with a great great deal of care. I was grinning like a madman in London thinking "this is how a frantic battle should feel!" and then a few short minutes later thinking "Is that it? Did I do something wrong? Did I miss something? That can't be it, there has to be more". Dunno, just really sad to see my fav gaming series of all time end on such a sour note.
Anyway, I'm done ranting, I need a beer and some fresh air...
Modifié par cgvhjb, 10 mars 2012 - 02:49 .
#1104
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 03:09
#1105
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 03:26
#1106
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 03:28
Olueq wrote...
We should applaud Bioware. They accomplished the supposed impossible. Ruining Mass Effect in 10 minutes.
they didnt ruin it. They butchered it.
#1107
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 03:40
#1108
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 03:43
#1109
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 03:59
njfluffy19 wrote...
The destroy ending is the only way Shepard lives, yes.
After the scene with the Normandy crashed on the unnamed planet, a scene will show ruins and slowly pan over to a body with a set of N7 tags, you see the chest expand hinting that Shepard is still alive. The other 2 options require Shepard's sacrafice.
#1110
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 04:05
1) In ME1, Sovereign was there specifically to activate the Citadel to bring in the Reapers. Also, the Protheans modified the Citadel to not automatically open the gate when signaled. Now, IF the controller of the reapers was the station itself, why didn't it change the code back and initiate the signal itself? Why would you need a Reaper to hang around the Galaxy at all at that point? To me, this means the lil god AI made no sense at all. ME1 clearly pointed to the Citadel as having no intelligence and was just a tool, ie a big relay.
2) Reapers are sentient yet they are being controlled? I mean, back to point 1, if the Citadel itself had that kind of power to indoctrinate Reapers, then why not indoctrinate the whole station? Also, Sovereign clearly states that they were "nations unto themselves" (i think I got that right) which does not sound like they are under anyone's control.
Anyway, food for thought. To me it just stands out that they brought or was told to bring in someone who new nothing of the previous games/universe.
Modifié par Trojan_33, 10 mars 2012 - 04:06 .
#1111
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 04:08
I will be one of a select few to say, damn good game overally, bioware.
#1112
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 04:09
#1113
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 04:13
#1114
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 04:20
cgvhjb wrote...
So I finally got around to finishing up ME3 and had to add my impressions to this since they're fresh. Basically while I don't at all mind not getting a "happy" ending at all (I wasn't able to save anderson and chose to merge synthetic and organic life) what really struck me as really odd was how "under-par" these endings were compared to pretty much the rest of the game. From what I see there are essentially 3 endings that all amount to pretty much the same thing. The rest of the game is one big build up on the solid foundation of well done interactions with familar and new faces (still didn't care for Vega but that's another story) then to have the whole game fall so flat on it's face at the crux of the whole entire series is BEYOND disappointing and a complete travesty.
I mean hell maybe I could have accepted this more if the endings had been unique and had at least had a little thought put into them but they just felt... lazy and rushed in. All 3 endings = the same basic cutscene ending? Frankly someone should have known that this series deserved better. It also deserved more than a VERY poorly implemented deus ex machina ending (come on guys, these are getting played out and are not innovative anymore)
I don't know, it's just so sad to see such a great game with so much build up ruined but the one facet that should have been handled with a great great deal of care. I was grinning like a madman in London thinking "this is how a frantic battle should feel!" and then a few short minutes later thinking "Is that it? Did I do something wrong? Did I miss something? That can't be it, there has to be more". Dunno, just really sad to see my fav gaming series of all time end on such a sour note.
Anyway, I'm done ranting, I need a beer and some fresh air...
Agree but its poor implented.. the could add some much more to each of the 3 choices and the varying outcomes of the three. We should talking why picked each one how our Shepards will picking different choices based on who built them... not.. going WTF. There could have themes that played in each unique to each choice.
*mordin voice* senseles, sensle waste of pontential.
#1115
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 04:22
cgvhjb wrote...
So I finally got around to finishing up ME3 and had to add my impressions to this since they're fresh. Basically while I don't at all mind not getting a "happy" ending at all (I wasn't able to save anderson and chose to merge synthetic and organic life) what really struck me as really odd was how "under-par" these endings were compared to pretty much the rest of the game. From what I see there are essentially 3 endings that all amount to pretty much the same thing. The rest of the game is one big build up on the solid foundation of well done interactions with familar and new faces (still didn't care for Vega but that's another story) then to have the whole game fall so flat on it's face at the crux of the whole entire series is BEYOND disappointing and a complete travesty.
I mean hell maybe I could have accepted this more if the endings had been unique and had at least had a little thought put into them but they just felt... lazy and rushed in. All 3 endings = the same basic cutscene ending? Frankly someone should have known that this series deserved better. It also deserved more than a VERY poorly implemented deus ex machina ending (come on guys, these are getting played out and are not innovative anymore)
I don't know, it's just so sad to see such a great game with so much build up ruined but the one facet that should have been handled with a great great deal of care. I was grinning like a madman in London thinking "this is how a frantic battle should feel!" and then a few short minutes later thinking "Is that it? Did I do something wrong? Did I miss something? That can't be it, there has to be more". Dunno, just really sad to see my fav gaming series of all time end on such a sour note.
Anyway, I'm done ranting, I need a beer and some fresh air...
I could not agree more with the above. I am not dissappointed.. I am crushed. I am totally .. totally crushed. I pre-ordered the Collector's Edition the first chance I could. My wife got tired of me saying.. March is almost here (4 months of that :-) ), And, as I played.. you could tell from the tone that this wasn't going to end well for Shephard.. but.. and as one friend after another died.. I got more and more crushed.. but... I had hope.. I figured.. 'well, there is going to be one hell of a grand ending then. I stayed up all night.. to finish.. wanted to get to that good spot.. to that good feeling of YESSSS!!! But, then.. the ending..
Need i say more? I wish I could get a refund of my $86 bucks.. I would.. What a crappy, dissappointing.. slap in the face ending to the players and fans of Mass Effect. I have since tried to start a new play through at least 5 times since I finished the first one.. but.. haven't been able to do it.. There is no incentive.. no glory.. just loss of friends, poor romance tracts.. and total dissapointment at the end.. why go there?
#1116
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 04:23
I wish I knew how to articulate this to Bioware. This song is to them.
Modifié par Xellith, 10 mars 2012 - 04:25 .
#1117
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 04:34
#1118
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 04:49
#1119
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:00
Any theories if this might have been a hurried rewrite? Wasn't there a script that was leaked? My apologies if this has already been discussed!
#1120
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:03
Xellith wrote...
I think we need to get everyone we can to twitter bomb their official ME3 twitter page.
Before we do that we got to cure what we should call the "Cry phase" for all the super hard-core fans. This might require writing tons of fan fiction involving an ending change to stop them from, what they describe, as crying in their sleep/suffering from extreme depression. Unfortunately, this will cause the sacrifice of one of our brightest minds.
But it gets worse. We have to unite and age-old rivalry a century in the making. Emotionless robots, created from the threads of fans who are dissapointed and expressing their distaste, have created multiple threads acting like the ending is actually good and everyone who doens't think so is stupid. This war is causing them to focus on themselves instead of the larger threat; the moderators. Every 50,000 seconds, the moderators clear several old threads off the forums.
Our forces are holding on to continuing "we need a new ending" threads as much as possible, but unless we unite the fourms, our threads will eventually get buried in time and nothing will happen. The cycle will just continue again with a different game trilogy.
Modifié par fluffyburrito, 10 mars 2012 - 05:04 .
#1121
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:09
I hate what Bioware did. It was the LAST game company I respected at all.
These endings were the worst you could imagine. Disappointing, abysmal. In the end your choices don't matter because all you do is affect what you bring INTO the battle. But not how anything turns out.
This Shoehorned POS ending makes me as a fan of Bioware who's literally dumped over 200 bucks on their games depressed. What happened to good endings?! Why would you want to screw over fans who stayed with you so long?
You worked so hard on the game? Why couldn't you have given good endings!? Don't you remember how Mass Effect Ended? How about Mass Effect 2? But this Starchild Crap after this 'Reaper Beyond your Comprehension'? There is NOTHING beyond understanding "We're harvesting you so you don't destroy yourselves."
To those of you who wrote the ending to Mass Effect 3, You failed your fans. You failed the universe you made. And I am ashamed I bought this game and had faith in you.
Your odds of surviving should have been determined by the personal bonds you forged. Rather earth survived should have been decided by the fleet you gathered. Rather on not you beat the reapers should have been decided in some epic finale between Harbinger and Shepard.
But NOOOO, the ONLY endings you give are ones were Shepard dies and effectively screws everyone over. Or Shepard Lives and screws everyone over and betrays his allies. (If you were good.)
I liked the Paragon/Renegade thing because it wasn't just Good/Evil. But in the end you even failed at that because in the end Shepard wasn't a Hero. Shep just obeyed the Starchild Delusion that freaking deigned to screw over the universe in the first place. In the end all that Bravado, all that effort and heart of Shepard ended with the series dying in a whimper and a sigh.
I will never trust a Bioware game again until I review the end of it's stories. I am sorry I bought Mass Effect 3, I'm sorry I raved about Bioware to my friend. I'm sorry I introduced my Big Sister to the game.
Gotta love the writers who end the story with, "And the final confrontation was at hand." "And then the universe blew up and no one was happy. The end! Thanks for the money suckers, glad to take you for a ride instead of on one!"
Thanks Traitors, because of you I'm not sure I'll even keep my SWTOR account.
#1122
Guest_Hello Man_*
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:43
Guest_Hello Man_*
#1123
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 06:03
fluffyburrito wrote...
Xellith wrote...
I think we need to get everyone we can to twitter bomb their official ME3 twitter page.
Before we do that we got to cure what we should call the "Cry phase" for all the super hard-core fans. This might require writing tons of fan fiction involving an ending change to stop them from, what they describe, as crying in their sleep/suffering from extreme depression. Unfortunately, this will cause the sacrifice of one of our brightest minds.
But it gets worse. We have to unite and age-old rivalry a century in the making. Emotionless robots, created from the threads of fans who are dissapointed and expressing their distaste, have created multiple threads acting like the ending is actually good and everyone who doens't think so is stupid. This war is causing them to focus on themselves instead of the larger threat; the moderators. Every 50,000 seconds, the moderators clear several old threads off the forums.
Our forces are holding on to continuing "we need a new ending" threads as much as possible, but unless we unite the fourms, our threads will eventually get buried in time and nothing will happen. The cycle will just continue again with a different game trilogy.
I love this.
#1124
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 06:07
For the most part, yes. There's "hints" at a secret ending if you play again, but ultimately it seems the endings were written by someone else, instead of the men and women who actually worked on the game itself.
It's such a... disconnection from the story. None of it makes sense.
#1125
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 06:17
fluffyburrito wrote...
Xellith wrote...
I think we need to get everyone we can to twitter bomb their official ME3 twitter page.
Before we do that we got to cure what we should call the "Cry phase" for all the super hard-core fans. This might require writing tons of fan fiction involving an ending change to stop them from, what they describe, as crying in their sleep/suffering from extreme depression. Unfortunately, this will cause the sacrifice of one of our brightest minds.
But it gets worse. We have to unite and age-old rivalry a century in the making. Emotionless robots, created from the threads of fans who are dissapointed and expressing their distaste, have created multiple threads acting like the ending is actually good and everyone who doens't think so is stupid. This war is causing them to focus on themselves instead of the larger threat; the moderators. Every 50,000 seconds, the moderators clear several old threads off the forums.
Our forces are holding on to continuing "we need a new ending" threads as much as possible, but unless we unite the fourms, our threads will eventually get buried in time and nothing will happen. The cycle will just continue again with a different game trilogy.
Fortunantly Bioware has three excellent choices. They have the "ignore" option, which will destroy all the fans, but save themselves. Then theres the "Dlc" option in which they control the fans through money. Finally they have the "patch" option, in which they sacrifice themselves to fix the game for free.





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