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#1151
njfluffy19

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I disagree. The whole sentient machine god is just a ****ty end to a an all around amazing story. I beieve the dark energy plot fit in better considering that's what they were making mention of in ME2 subtly. Haestrom, the Illusive Man's hideout, the Reapers interest in humanity? It all tied into that. I think they could have made it a much better conclusion based solely on the plot basis. That and it likely would have been less rushed considering it was their original plot.

But I guess it's all an opinion.

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www.change.org/petitions/mass-effect-3-ending-dlc-we-want-a-dlc-that-changes-the-last-minutes-of-the-game

Passing it along

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I have played as the pargon path in all 3 games plus DLC, I made it a point of helping the Quarians (in thier version of a diaspora) when given the opportunity, so when given the opportunity to recruit their fleet to aid in the Reaper conflagration, I jumped at it. At long last the pariah of the galaxy would no longer be just a dirty lonely refugee race, instead the greatest fleet would become the saviors of humanity and every other advanced organic race.
But because I destroyed the mass relays system, by either blue, green or red super rays I have turned the savior members of the Quarian fleet into dirty lonely refugees stuck in the Earth Aliance. WTF! Oh and that includes every non human still alive on the citydale. (not to mention all those other lucky /not fleets that came to help because of me)
Bioware fix the very bad horrible ending or like Lemony Snicket put on the cover that this story will have a very bad horible ending!!!!1!
I united the galaxy then destroyed the only links to it. What the felgercarb were you frelling monsters thinking?

#1154
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My problem with the endings, much like everyone else, is the profound lack of choice. The feeling that nothing the player had done over the course of all 3 ME games, means nothing in the end. As it stands, the way the run towards the beam plays out, feels like it should be the worse case scenario. As in you didn't save Jack and her students, didn't save Miranda, didn't save Samara, didn't get Aria her army of Blood Pack, Blue Suns and Eclipse, and just all around failed to unite everyone. The way the ending is now, would be fine if the player failed at most, or all of the above.

However, if the player managed to fully unite all of the races, save everyone there is to save, do every mission and side mission, obtain every upgrade possible. The run towards the beam and what you do on the Citadel should be very different.

Worse Case - You get what's in the game now, and the 3 "Worst/Bad Endings."

Got a lot of help, but not everyone - Some of the ground forces make it to the beam, and set up a perimeter. Shepard and his team, plus a few extra make it to the Citadel and you now have a few more missions to play through. As you now have to go from floor to floor, clearing out each level you've been to through out the game. Each mission has you saving a former squad mate on each level, as they've been pinned down by reaper forces. Save them, and they join you as you advance onto the next level. ect.

However, since you didn't save everyone, or get all the help you could get. The ground forces fall, and reaper forces follow you up into the Citadel, making these missions harder and possibly getting squad mates killed.

Regardless, if you make it to the control panel, you have a different confrontation with the Illusive Man. Afterwards, Shepard and anyone IF anyone survives ride the platform up and then confront the Guardian. You're giving the same 3 options, but if you have more people with you, they can help disprove the Guardians BS and come up with 1 or 2 more options. Like if you have Edi and Tali with you, they can alter how the Plot Device works and either enter a virus to shut down the Reapers, or activate their self destruct sequences, or Tali can have a copy of Legions rewriting program used on the Geth in ME2 and change it to work on the Reapers. Giving them control of the Reapers or just sending them back into Dark Space, to continue their work with Dark Energy.

Most every one lives, if you make the right choices.

Best Case - Same as above, but you're forces are maxed out. Ground forces hold the line, no Reaper forces follow you up into the Citadel. Fights go much smoother, everyone lives, and more join you on the platform to the top. This gives you the same two new options to pick from as above, but they're made even better. Plus more options can be offered. Like the Guardian, seeing that his forced failed, willingly sends his Reapers back into Dark Space.

Just a few thoughts.

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You know how they say you have your best thoughts in the shower or right before you fall asleep? Well I thought of this ending which I wouldve been completely satisfied with seeming since you have no choice that Shepard seems to die.. Idea of an ending: instead of Shepard and Anderson making it to the beam, it's Shepard and your LI (seeming if you choose to romance anyone) (if you choose not to then it stays Anderson) and Shepard and your LI are both hurt as is currently, after you kill TIM Shepard and LI are ascended to the crucible and given the choices you are currently given your LI will make his/her input but whichever you choose Shepard and his/her LI do it together, this is an ending that I could've dealt with an had a good feeling about, let me know what y'all think of it?

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Parker Stephenson

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But I realize that I'd still rather have that cliche ending but kazariangarnet09 has an amazing idea as well, I do like who you managed to make the battle for the citadel into missions like in ME1 and similar to the collector base in ME2, great idea!

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Parker Stephenson wrote...

But I realize that I'd still rather have that cliche ending but kazariangarnet09 has an amazing idea as well, I do like who you managed to make the battle for the citadel into missions like in ME1 and similar to the collector base in ME2, great idea!


Anything would be better than what we got-- even the Reapers consuming every race and ****ting on our graves. :?

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Parker Stephenson wrote...

You know how they say you have your best thoughts in the shower or right before you fall asleep? Well I thought of this ending which I wouldve been completely satisfied with seeming since you have no choice that Shepard seems to die.. Idea of an ending: instead of Shepard and Anderson making it to the beam, it's Shepard and your LI (seeming if you choose to romance anyone) (if you choose not to then it stays Anderson) and Shepard and your LI are both hurt as is currently, after you kill TIM Shepard and LI are ascended to the crucible and given the choices you are currently given your LI will make his/her input but whichever you choose Shepard and his/her LI do it together, this is an ending that I could've dealt with an had a good feeling about, let me know what y'all think of it?


I think that would have been MUCH better. I was going to bring my LI squaddie on the last mission until I learned from online spoilers that it would pretty much be a death sentence for Garrus then. >.<

There needs to be an ending DLC or epilogue DLC that involves a Normandy rescue mission or just... SOMETHING that makes everything less bitter and depressing.

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Mariyanna wrote...

Parker Stephenson wrote...

You know how they say you have your best thoughts in the shower or right before you fall asleep? Well I thought of this ending which I wouldve been completely satisfied with seeming since you have no choice that Shepard seems to die.. Idea of an ending: instead of Shepard and Anderson making it to the beam, it's Shepard and your LI (seeming if you choose to romance anyone) (if you choose not to then it stays Anderson) and Shepard and your LI are both hurt as is currently, after you kill TIM Shepard and LI are ascended to the crucible and given the choices you are currently given your LI will make his/her input but whichever you choose Shepard and his/her LI do it together, this is an ending that I could've dealt with an had a good feeling about, let me know what y'all think of it?


I think that would have been MUCH better. I was going to bring my LI squaddie on the last mission until I learned from online spoilers that it would pretty much be a death sentence for Garrus then. >.<

There needs to be an ending DLC or epilogue DLC that involves a Normandy rescue mission or just... SOMETHING that makes everything less bitter and depressing.


Apparently it's not a death sentence because they get teleported to the Normandy. :P I had Garrus in my squad and as my LI and he hopped out of the Normandy in the end.

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Agree that the ending battle should be one where everyone you've helped teams up with you. Just having these people as "war assets" isn't enough. We want to see them helping you. Even if you haven't played the last MEs I think just having the option of old friends joining your fight is crucial.

I also agree that if you choose an LI, they should be with you when you make the last choices. It was never all about Shepard for me. It was about the bonds she made during her journey and they all need to be there because they've helped shaped her.

I wouldn't care less if my FemShep died, as long as she was with her friends. I don't like the fact that she is forced to make these choices alone (and I was not pleased at how she didn't fight the kid back) when all through the series your squaddies will always comment on your choices.

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Iztiak

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I really hope they end up going with DLC.

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Neroteyen

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Patch, DLC whatever so long as it's fixed. I see it this way Patch everbodies happy. Fans eventually forgive (not forget) DLC fans happy for resolution but annoyed we got to pay (I will just for closure) So if it's dlc still some unhappy we got to pay
Ignore or Oh well the endings just beyond your comprehension whatever.
Fans Very unhappy EA/BW loses fans lose everyone loses

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Those are just terrible endings. I can't believe how bad they are. Incredibly disappointing, will forever leave a black stain on the ME series.

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The first post I ever make on this forum is one that expresses my distaste for the endings. Christ what a waste.

On a separate note this: http://img710.images...boyherewego.jpg

What do you guys think? I have doubts due to it being posted on /v/ but I suppose it could be legit.

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Zirobo wrote...

The first post I ever make on this forum is one that expresses my distaste for the endings. Christ what a waste.

On a separate note this: http://img710.images...boyherewego.jpg

What do you guys think? I have doubts due to it being posted on /v/ but I suppose it could be legit.


Its hope...A slim hope 

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Zirobo wrote...

The first post I ever make on this forum is one that expresses my distaste for the endings. Christ what a waste.

On a separate note this: http://img710.images...boyherewego.jpg

What do you guys think? I have doubts due to it being posted on /v/ but I suppose it could be legit.


Even if it's fake, it gives us hope.:D

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Zirobo wrote...

The first post I ever make on this forum is one that expresses my distaste for the endings. Christ what a waste.

On a separate note this: http://img710.images...boyherewego.jpg

What do you guys think? I have doubts due to it being posted on /v/ but I suppose it could be legit.



hope.. thats what I needed now.. I'm not so depressed anymore, thanks 

Modifié par Simodon, 10 mars 2012 - 11:35 .


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Demarco09

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Zirobo wrote...

The first post I ever make on this forum is one that expresses my distaste for the endings. Christ what a waste.

On a separate note this: http://img710.images...boyherewego.jpg

What do you guys think? I have doubts due to it being posted on /v/ but I suppose it could be legit.


If this is true... or whatever...   I know buying this is against what a lot of people are raging about... but these endings are so bad, I WILL buy a few of those for sure...  I put alot of time and I seriously love the Characters so much, it was a great game!  I just was hoping for better endings... if this is true. hahah I will ACTUALLY end my games, so far i get up to the point of no return, and I quit and rely on headcannon! ugh! hahaha  Heres hoping for these DLCs!:crying:

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I guess the possible endings are what they are its not the best way or how i Should have imagined it but its as it is. It's in a way far more realistic the other opportunities. I'd like to see Shepard Succeed with the LI and survive that Whole Crap but this is war and Shep just Sacrificed (maybe in Both Possible Endings) to end it. Isn't it just a Great benefit to see that Shep has Broken the Cycle?
And i think its not less to mention the symbolik of the catalyst. The boy from the beginning of the game for example is in the end the form for the catalyst (+ it could be an allusion to god as a boy with an anthill). the Catalyst is a higher beeing of Godlike ( in this case technological) Power trying to avoid the inevitable the end of ALL known an unknown organic Live in the Galaxy caused by it self trough the creation of Artificial live (like the Geth) wich in the opinion of the Catalyst always revolts against its Creators. The end has lots and lots of angles we can think about and it fits in the Mass Effect Story with all its deprivations and decisions in the end shep can decide wich deprivation it will be...


to me this is OK even if its not the happy end

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Someone from Reddit re-edited the ending to look less bad, since he/she was also pretty disappointed with the original.



See, BioWare? That's how easy it was.

You could've just made the Crucible do the one thing it was designed to do: Destroy the Reapers and have the outcome when it came to Shepard's life and the state of the crew depend on the war assets.

If the assets were too low, the Normandy is simply destroyed by a Reaper (or Harbinger, just to add insult to injury) just before the wave hits the Reapers, then the mass relays explodes and Shepard dies. If they were high enough, to the point where you almost have to do multiplayer or NG+ to get it, like the current "good" ending, then the Normandy survives to battle without trying to flee and then it rendezvous with Shepard on the Citadel (which doesn't explode, since your war assets and all that jazz were good enough to calibrate the Crucible to not destroy everything it comes in contact with), where Shepard is met with the warm embrace of his friends and loved ones.

No Guardian, little to no space magic and very few things left out in the open, with some of the final scenes depending on your relations with some of the characters. It would have been enough.

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Taleroth wrote...

And I want any potential unhappiness to be a consequence of the Reapers. "This is why the Reapers are bad." "This is why Cerberus is bad."

When I can't blame the Reapers, Cerberus, or whatever bad guy for the misfortune, then I'm left with only one interpretation of the events. "This is why McGuffins are bad." "This is why the writing is bad."


That is why I am quite depressed and I think this ''Grey'' villians does not fit to this trilogy. You cannot justify killing people ''For their own good ! '' . I mean that kind of attitude is more fitting to murderers who think they are doing the world a favor and I doubt writers have a murderious mind but from the looks of it, this sounds like the Ending's mentality.

Aside from the depressing and disappointing ending, I still feel how my choices made a real impact other than the last 2-3 choice. I would be sitting around the whole 3 game without interfering anything and the ending would stay the same as you destroy the relays... and either sacrifice yourself or join the Reapers in their ''justified'' quest on murder.

I literally stopped playing and waiting for some fix or a mod to fix those endings. Players who invested their emotions to this game deserve better than this. Hell I would've been fine with a cheesy ending that this Crucible give everyfleet you have a power-boost so they can defeat the Reapers ....

I just feel like all the effort I put into the game is for nothing. You can't change a change and even if you do, it doesn't matter in the end since with the relays are gone basicly everyone is screwed which cause me to ask the question of '' What is the point of this trilogy ? '' 

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Someone from Reddit re-edited the ending to look less bad, since he/she was also pretty disappointed with the original.

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Wow that was actually very good. Now this could of been another outcome. Some players could get this ending and others who wanted a sacrifice ending could have that one too.

This is an ending that is happy but sad as well. Mission complete, Reapers are done but the losses are heavy . I'd of been extremely happy if it ended here, but with some of Shepards crew there and his/ her LI  or even good freind puts a  reassuring hand in Sheps shoulder as it panned out to earth. Then showing the Normandy headed home to help with rebuilding and recovering.

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Bionic Weapon wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Someone from Reddit re-edited the ending to look less bad, since he/she was also pretty disappointed with the original.

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Wow that was actually very good. Now this could of been another outcome. Some players could get this ending and others who wanted a sacrifice ending could have that one too.

This is an ending that is happy but sad as well. Mission complete, Reapers are done but the losses are heavy . I'd of been extremely happy if it ended here, but with some of Shepards crew there and his/ her LI  or even good freind puts a  reassuring hand in Sheps shoulder as it panned out to earth. Then showing the Normandy headed home to help with rebuilding and recovering.


Wow.

Why couldn't one of the endings have been this? Instead of the horrible Shep-Death and Normandy-Crash-Landing that it was?

I wouldn't mind if Shep died either though, but no epilogue and... crap. Everyone has already said enough about what's wrong with the endings. I'm just repeating everything.

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As for the backstory of the Reapers, why not have TIM or the Prothean VI explain it instead? Would have been much better than that lame Guardian. May that kid burn in eternal hellfire.

I would have been perfectly fine if it turned out that the Reapers started "small" (maybe another synthetic uprising, which later lead to a point where they wanted to become more than they could be in their present state) with trying to reproduce the way they do and preserve themselves and at a certain point, they couldn't stop, because then the whole process of the cycle would fall apart, due to the organics becoming more advanced if the Reapers didn't harvest them.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 11 mars 2012 - 12:11 .


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Someone With Mass wrote...

Someone from Reddit re-edited the ending to look less bad, since he/she was also pretty disappointed with the original.



See, BioWare? That's how easy it was.


That's awesome! Just add a few things in, like if you have full assets and war readyness and full loyalty crew loyalty from ME1 and 2. You can have Shepard at the terminal with his omni-tool and either use a re-worked version of Legions Geth rewriting program, made by Tali and Edi, for Paragon. In which you rewrite the Reapers and their Husks, Stopping the attack, as the Reapers land on every planet and their Husks silently march back onboard as the Reapers then leave for Dark Space, never to return again. Or go Renagade and shut down the Reapers, their Husks, the Geth and Edi.  You can have the rest of your crew running towards the beam, helping the two up that were with you on that run on the way, showing that even they survived. They take the beam up and run into the room Shepards in, Shepard and his/her LI embrase as Joker takes the Normandy in close to pick them up.

Follow this up with some cutscenes, showing each planet as they rebuild. Citadel returned to it's rightful place, show it's survivers (Council former squadmates and NPCs you've helped throughout the game there. See Wrex and Eve holding their child, the Geth and Quarians rebuilding their home world together (if the Geth survived) then see Garrus and Tali standing infront of their new home. (if the player didn't romance either of them) So on and so forth with everyone else, until finally you get a cutscene with Shepard and his/her LI, months later with their own child.

If we could get that ending, then that would be the best thing Bioware could ever do for us. That's the ending I think we should have.

Modifié par KazarianGarnet09, 11 mars 2012 - 12:51 .