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[xI extremist Ix]

Not going to lie. I am pretty disappointed.

[Wowlock]

Hunter_Wolf wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

ther wont be any more mass effect games. The series is over.

Incorrect. ME is the last of Shepard's saga.

With these endings...series are DEAD....believe me , nothing can revive this trainwreck. Unless BW ''fix'' the endings...Mass Effect will stay as a meaningless-hollow series floating around. No matter what you add...when the Mass Relays are destroyed ( along with their systems which involves many organic homeworlds+colonies etc ) and all the races are stranded.... well galaxy is screwed and I sure as hell know that nothing after that will matter.

The Grandpa and the little child ? That is just the last nail in the coffin saying '' well at least ' SOME ' still alive ''....OH THANK YOU FOR THE KINDNESS BW ..after murdering %90 of the universe along with our favorite characters..stories ...planets and so on...

If you think someone can create another game from those endings , good luck with that because that game won't be Mass Effect...no matter how hard you try. Maybe they can create a Call of Duty-style game with ME weapons to rippoff more people... but I got backstabbed enough to bend-over again.

[Shadow Wing]

I'm surprise how many people are hating on this game because of the ending, whether you agree with the ending or not, people have to admit that this is a brilliant game. As for the ending itself, I agree it was incredibly depressing but it was a fitting end to the biggest sci-fi game trilogy. The theme was sacrifice and we saw the ultimate sacrifice in the end and I don't just mean Shapard (hint: the mass relays).
I thought it was poetic that the way to break the cycle was to destroy what made all the races technologically advance in the first place, the mass relays. To save the world something has to give, remember the cycle is unbreakable, you can't seriously think Shepard is just going to stroll in and walk right out as if nothing has happen. Something big has to happen. I thought the ending was fine.
Sorry guys, not every good story has to have a happy ending. And there is precedent for this, the "empire strikes back" is considered the best star wars movie, that does not end well. Even for the lame prequel trilogy, episode 3 is considered as the least terrible of the three and its the darkest and the saddest. 
So how about it, stop complaining and just enjoy a really good game. Because for all the complaints about the ending, its still a damn good game.

[twister87]

Shadow Wing wrote...

I'm surprise how many people are hating on this game because of the ending, whether you agree with the ending or not, people have to admit that this is a brilliant game. As for the ending itself, I agree it was incredibly depressing but it was a fitting end to the biggest sci-fi game trilogy. The theme was sacrifice and we saw the ultimate sacrifice in the end and I don't just mean Shapard (hint: the mass relays).
I thought it was poetic that the way to break the cycle was to destroy what made all the races technologically advance in the first place, the mass relays. To save the world something has to give, remember the cycle is unbreakable, you can't seriously think Shepard is just going to stroll in and walk right out as if nothing has happen. Something big has to happen. I thought the ending was fine.
Sorry guys, not every good story has to have a happy ending. And there is precedent for this, the "empire strikes back" is considered the best star wars movie, that does not end well. Even for the lame prequel trilogy, episode 3 is considered as the least terrible of the three and its the darkest and the saddest. 
So how about it, stop complaining and just enjoy a really good game. Because for all the complaints about the ending, its still a damn good game.

I agree, to an extent. All I will say is that the game itself is brilliant in just about every aspect, apart from:

- The choices seem to be somewhat oversimplified, and staying apart from the end sequence for the moment, they seem to be fairly linear as well. Seems like the only choices that really affect anything are which particular races you decide to support, or in some cases how you go about getting them
- Some of the dialogue is a bit ham-fisted at times, but I forgive it for that because some of it has always been ham-fisted
- Finally, the endings really are pretty terrible. Yes, they are sad, and while that has potential as a moving and fitting finish to a great series, these really just confused and infuriated me. What the hell is the Normandy doing in an FTL mass relay jump? And why are all the crew on there, just moments after being on the planet's surface? What the hell is with the old guy and the kid, really? What happened to everyone? Did they all live fulfilling lives afterwards? Just... wow. Bad.

Anyway, back to agreeing with you. As I said, the rest of the game is really excellent, it's just unfortunate that I have to forcedly remind myself of that fact due to such a mish-mash, uniform and seemingly last-minute ending sequence.

I do like the multiplayer a lot as well.

[Keletian2]

They Raped Mass Effect right in-front of me and all i did was watch! I had to come forward to bring these people to justice! "cries"

[Reiisha]

Still holding out, hoping that the ending was a hallucination and we get 'fix' from bioware. At this point i wouldnt even mind if it was a dlc, i just want this game to be properly capped off after 4 years...

[Sentr0]

after this ending (one, with different colors), bioware is not gonna see any more cents from me...

Modifié par Sentr0, 12 mars 2012 - 07:24 .

[Tasnek]

Shadow Wing wrote...

I'm surprise how many people are hating on this game because of the ending, whether you agree with the ending or not, people have to admit that this is a brilliant game. As for the ending itself, I agree it was incredibly depressing but it was a fitting end to the biggest sci-fi game trilogy. The theme was sacrifice and we saw the ultimate sacrifice in the end and I don't just mean Shapard (hint: the mass relays).
I thought it was poetic that the way to break the cycle was to destroy what made all the races technologically advance in the first place, the mass relays. To save the world something has to give, remember the cycle is unbreakable, you can't seriously think Shepard is just going to stroll in and walk right out as if nothing has happen. Something big has to happen. I thought the ending was fine.
Sorry guys, not every good story has to have a happy ending. And there is precedent for this, the "empire strikes back" is considered the best star wars movie, that does not end well. Even for the lame prequel trilogy, episode 3 is considered as the least terrible of the three and its the darkest and the saddest. 
So how about it, stop complaining and just enjoy a really good game. Because for all the complaints about the ending, its still a damn good game.

I agree that the game is excellent, one of the best I've ever played, but the ending is poor. I'm not asking for a happy ending, I'm asking for a good ending. There are plenty of good stories out there with tragic endings, bittersweet endings, and happy endings. This ending, whatever it is, is lacking.

There are obvious plot holes in the reaper-kid's reasoning, all three endings make every effort you put into the characters and missions seem worthless, because you don't just defeat the reapers, you screw everyone over. It's not about destroying the mass relays, it's about the fact that destroying them strands many alien races so far away from their home planets that returning is simply not an option. Sure you save the galaxy from the reapers - but who can save the galaxy from you?

I don't expect Shepard to walk out of there fine - in fact I fully expected him to die at the end. That's not what this is about. Most people aren't upset with the endings because they aren't happy, they're upset because the endings aren't good. They felt rushed, incomplete, and unfitting to the theme of the game. These 3 choices are seemingly the only 3 throughout all the games that Shepard doesn't question, and that's weird.

The majority of fans were expecting a varied conclusion that reflected the choices they made through all 3 games. These endings are the same no matter what (unless you got 4-5000+ EMS, but even then the change is very slight). To be clear, I don't agree with people saying this is the worst ending ever and people will now hate mass effect - to me, the endings are okay, if they were expanded upon, I could get on board with them. To me, the endings don't ruin what was a truly fantastic game.

But the fact remains, enough people are unhappy with the ending, that it should be changed. Bioware talks about how it listens to its fans, and if they're true to their words, then they should seriously consider at least releasing an alternate ending DLC. Personally, I would love to see an alternate ending because frankly, Bioware can do better. And loyal fans deserve to feel rewarded by their experience, rather than let down.

[meiiska]

biggest whiners ever in this forum.. "im not going to buy another bioware game because of this ending." seriously, i hope most of you are 12 year olds because you act like spoiled brats.. the best was, "i should be able to change the ending to what i like." maybe you should get a job first, work for bioware, then provide input on how much better you can make the story.. self entitlement monsters, what ever happened to enjoying the game just for enjoyments sake?

[Wolvy]

 I completed my first play-through last Thursday and I have to say that it is an amazing game in my opinion. I went into it knowing it was going to be bleak and grim. I will agree I am not a huge fan of the ending either. On the other hand I also don't want to take away from the hard work that has gone into this trilogy and I also understand some people may not agree. I was depressed and devastated after the ending. And that is impressive in itself when you consider it is a game but you have a vested emotional interest in it, kind of like a book.


At the end after the beam and Shepard makes up and walks to the light. I kept saying to myself, "You're not supposed to die here!!" I took the synthesis ending and still was thinking, with tears in my eyes, "YOU are not supposed to die here!!!" The reason I say that is this:  Shepard has sacrificed a great deal already and has died once already. In ME2 at Mordin's clinic, Daniel mentioned, "For a moment there, I thought you were going to kill them." Shepard's reply was, "I made a promise and I keep my promises." If you are a Liaramancer at the end of ME2, which I was, she said (something like), "If we are going to do this, I need to know you are always going to come back to me." Shepard's reply was, " I will always come back to you."


Once he met Miranda in ME3 he had said to her, "Miranda, be careful." Her reply was, "I can't promise that Shepard and neither can you." At the end when he called everyone again he said (paraphrasing), "Miranda, be careful." Her reply was, " I will Shepard, I promise." And I am not sure but I thought she told him to be careful and he promised he would.  So yeah, I would have kind of hoped that at least one of the endings would have had him battered and beaten but he made it out. He made promises and he always kept them. Not only that he gave everything to help his friends when they needed it and saw a few of them give everything for him, even their lives. I believe there was a huge sacrifice in the game but it necessarily didn't have to consume Shepard. Not saying it's not the end of Shepard's saga. If Bioware said it was I am cool with that, just not all the endings the way they did and to have closure with the rest of the crew.

Having served in the military for 21 years, I liked one of the ideas a few pages back. Can you imagine the emotional moment if one of the endings showed his whole crew or all of his friends cutting a path to the 2 downed companions and then to the light to get to Shepard and save him and Anderson or just him? Gives me goosbumps thinking about it because that would be an awesome ending too. :happy:

Modifié par ronbo_68, 12 mars 2012 - 03:16 .

[D.Shepard]

I have a question about the sa called "control" ending.

Does Shepard dies in Control ending or does he/she become a new and more powerful entity? You know like his/her consciouness uploaded in some hardware in order to control the Reapers  etc...

[WizenSlinky0]

Shadow Wing wrote...

I'm surprise how many people are hating on this game because of the ending, whether you agree with the ending or not, people have to admit that this is a brilliant game. As for the ending itself, I agree it was incredibly depressing but it was a fitting end to the biggest sci-fi game trilogy. The theme was sacrifice and we saw the ultimate sacrifice in the end and I don't just mean Shapard (hint: the mass relays).
I thought it was poetic that the way to break the cycle was to destroy what made all the races technologically advance in the first place, the mass relays. To save the world something has to give, remember the cycle is unbreakable, you can't seriously think Shepard is just going to stroll in and walk right out as if nothing has happen. Something big has to happen. I thought the ending was fine.
Sorry guys, not every good story has to have a happy ending. And there is precedent for this, the "empire strikes back" is considered the best star wars movie, that does not end well. Even for the lame prequel trilogy, episode 3 is considered as the least terrible of the three and its the darkest and the saddest. 
So how about it, stop complaining and just enjoy a really good game. Because for all the complaints about the ending, its still a damn good game.

You kinda lost me at "not every story has to have a happy ending" because for the most part not too many people are worried about a happy ending. Just a bittersweet ending that still has the sweet in it.

The game leading up to the ending was fantastic but unfortunately the ending really sours me to the experience. I have a very "what's the point?" feeling about playing through it again, though I'm doing so as a complete dick, killing off characters I love because I really don't care anymore. Mordin? Going to get shot. Wrex? Shot. Legion? Shanked. I no longer care and that is probably the biggest failing of the game.

The endings themselves weren't too bad (though the destroy ending could have used something better than a gasp) but the scenes afterwards would have probably evoked anger had I not been prepared for them. They are arbitrary and pointless, not fitting.

There's a difference between sacrifice at the expense of choice and sacrifice because of choice. I wanted the latter. Choosing between different races to survive, or different characters to survive, etc. I don't mind making tough choices. I don't mind sacrificing people. But the idea that all of these people can just die die die without the player having much input at all goes against the atmosphere the trilogy sets.

If this was a stand-alone game I would probably consider the endings very well done. But it isn't. There's a general atmosphere and themes that must be maintained for the trilogy to remain a trilogy. If you look at it from the perspective of what we've seen across the whole trilogy the endings feel extremely out of place not just in terms of ME and ME2 but also in terms of a lot of the dialogue of ME3.

[Natureguy85]

Shadow Wing wrote...


Sorry guys, not every good story has to have a happy ending. And there is precedent for this, the "empire strikes back" is considered the best star wars movie, that does not end well. Even for the lame prequel trilogy, episode 3 is considered as the least terrible of the three and its the darkest and the saddest. 
So how about it, stop complaining and just enjoy a really good game. Because for all the complaints about the ending, its still a damn good game.

Your whole point is made invalid by the fact that neither of those movies were the last movie, where this is the last game for Commander Shepard. Revenge of the Sith (episode 3) was the last of that "trilogy", but the whole second trilogy comes after to continue the story.

The endings were terrible. It wasn't a sacrifice to make everything whole again. Even the best result sucks. In a game full of choices, there should be good endings, especially when you are going to call the slight variations based on your readiness I have read about "different endings". The endings given might have been ok as one set among many, but there is no satisfaction for all the hard work. Much of the galaxy is still screwed.

[NoirLegend]

Natureguy85 wrote...

Shadow Wing wrote...


Sorry guys, not every good story has to have a happy ending. And there is precedent for this, the "empire strikes back" is considered the best star wars movie, that does not end well. Even for the lame prequel trilogy, episode 3 is considered as the least terrible of the three and its the darkest and the saddest. 
So how about it, stop complaining and just enjoy a really good game. Because for all the complaints about the ending, its still a damn good game.

Your whole point is made invalid by the fact that neither of those movies were the last movie, where this is the last game for Commander Shepard. Revenge of the Sith (episode 3) was the last of that "trilogy", but the whole second trilogy comes after to continue the story.

The endings were terrible. It wasn't a sacrifice to make everything whole again. Even the best result sucks. In a game full of choices, there should be good endings, especially when you are going to call the slight variations based on your readiness I have read about "different endings". The endings given might have been ok as one set among many, but there is no satisfaction for all the hard work. Much of the galaxy is still screwed.

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[Brialyn]

The game is excellent 99% of it. The endings are where it falls apart and like anything if the ending is bad it sort of sours the whole thing. It isn't just that we don't get a happy ending to some extent (I still maintain that it should be an option, hard to get sure, but an option) it's the circular and nonsensical argument for the reapers existence, it's wondering how in the heck my crew that was on earth with me is back on the Normandy and not beat up all to heck like I was, its wondering how in arrival one relay blowing up destroyed an entire system but every relay in the galaxy can go ka-bloom and somehow we still have hope, what in the heck is the catalyst, who did it come from....there's just so much that was bad beyond the non-existent happy endings.

I expected sacrifice (and we got it several times through-out the game and those moments were glorious) but to say that the endings were unsatisfying is putting it mildly.

I do have to commend them on the rest of the game though, I laughed, cried, and had a blast with all the combat improvements. Showing Shepard's humanity was a stroke of genius and the music truly moved me. Unfortunately, the ending is the most critical part of any medium and these were just....bad.

[halloween20]

Brialyn wrote...

its wondering how in arrival one relay blowing up destroyed an entire system but every relay in the galaxy can go ka-bloom and somehow we still have hope,

all of them using all energy they have to creat the beam to the next system and the sphere around them. They break down by their own energy consumption.
that is why there is no explosion like the portal in arrival

[Valk72]

meiiska wrote...

biggest whiners ever in this forum.. "im not going to buy another bioware game because of this ending." seriously, i hope most of you are 12 year olds because you act like spoiled brats.. the best was, "i should be able to change the ending to what i like." maybe you should get a job first, work for bioware, then provide input on how much better you can make the story.. self entitlement monsters, what ever happened to enjoying the game just for enjoyments sake?

The endings are difficult to enjoy.

[DrowNoble]

Bezabazabobo wrote...

I'm more disappointed there's no true epilogue explaining the fate of all the other civilizations or even your friends.

Even something as simple as dragon age origins' text epilogue would have been satisfying.

Well all the fleets are stranded on or by Earth.  The Citadel is most likely going to fall out of orbit and start a nuclear winter on Earth.  The mass relays are all gone so everyone is stranded where ever they happen to be.  Quarians on the homeworld are going to die out since, as Tali said, they need to learn out to plant crops.  Since the geth are dead they have no aid so they're all gonna die.

Oh and the Normandy, for some unknown reason, crash landed Somewhere after mysteriously picking up my squadmates who were with me 10 mins ago.

Short Version:  Galaxy is FUBAR regardless of what we do. 

[soundstar27]

Ok if you destroy the Reapers how do you get an ending to where Shepard lives? I'm really confused. I had my war assets in the green all the way up to 5700+. Does it solely depend on multiplayer? If so, that's kind of wrong since Bioware said that wouldn't effect the single player campaign. Somehow my Galaxy Map is 66% without playing MP I guess because I beat the game once already?? I destroyed the Reapers but Shepard still didn't live. Also how do you keep Anderson alive?

[Darkecofreak26]

soundstar27 wrote...

Ok if you destroy the Reapers, how do you get an ending to where Shepard lives? I'm really confused. I had my war assets in the green all the way up to 5700+. Does it solely depend on multiplayer? If so, that's kind of wrong since Bioware said that wouldn't affect the single-player campaign. Somehow my Galaxy Map is 66% without playing MP; I guess because I beat the game once already?? I destroyed the Reapers, but Shepard still didn't live. Also how do you keep Anderson alive?

As far as I know, Anderson doesn't live, which I'm ok with. Multiplayer has no bearing on the ending, like they said.


SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT!






Shepard lives in the Destroy ending if your reputation was high enough. It's not a big scene; it just shows his/her burnt-out armor in the ruins of the Citadel with his/her N7 dogtags hanging from his/her neck, and then, the armor moves like s/he is trying to get up.

[Valk72]

Darkecofreak26 wrote...


Shepard lives in the Destroy ending if your reputation was high enough. It's not a big scene; it just shows his/her burnt-out armor in the ruins of the Citadel with his/her N7 dogtags hanging from his/her neck, and then, the armor moves like s/he is trying to get up.

And it make absolutely no-sense, Shepard can't survive the explosion of the Citadel and the atmospheric-entry without armor. That's just impossible, even for Shepard.

[The Tookah]

It is a GAME! Why is the best possible ending such a mess? Shepard should get more than a maybe she lives, but there is no way to reunite with anyone she knows, assuming I can stretch my imagination that far. The ending sucks.

[Valk72]

If the game would have ended just after the cut-scene between Anderson and Shepard with the Crucible firing and destroying the reapers plus just an epilogue, that would have suffice for me.

Modifié par Valk72, 13 mars 2012 - 12:27 .

[Flammenpanzer]

Valk72 wrote...

If the game would have ended just after the cut-scene between Anderson and Shepard with the Crucible firing and destroying the reapers plus just an epilogue, that would have suffice for me.

Yeah...

[shadowkinz]

The worst part is that after the credits, the grandfather explains to his grandson that there could be other life and civilization "out there", each with their own tales...

WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE WAS AN ENTIRE FLEET OF MIXED SPECIES IN SPACE AND ON THE DAMNED PLANET ITSELF..  (yes i kno the 2 people are talking a way in the future, but there would be some evidence of this...)

wut.

seriously tho it really bothered me.. There would still be uncountable #s of other species in the sol system

The fact that it was "forgotten" that there are other species in the galaxy, after most of them were left stuck in the sol system anyway. They would have had to live on earth, the space-faring tech would still be there, even IF they couldn't get out of sol.
^it makes it REALLY seem like the WHOLE STORY was just a fairy tale, and not just the last "hallucination" as some suggest... which also wouldn't make sense b/c he wouldn't mention details being lost, and would also be some BS >.>

i hated the ending... well i hated the plot holes rather