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Deepo78 wrote...

 

You sir, are the greatest!

[Swimming Ferret]

lol press reviews. They are vastly different from all the fan reviews I've seen. Can't imagine why.

[omegasama]

Deepo78 wrote...

 

Haha best post here, and so true.

[Lilarcor01]

nikola8 wrote...

I love how people who hate the ending are so quick to dismiss any positive review of the game. The list of critical reviews is quite impressive. If you didn't like the game, that's fine. However, that doesn't mean there is universal hate towards the game. A lot of people really like it.

Look the problem is that those positive reviews often fail to take notice of the game's negative side. Or just outright miss the problem with the endings.

[Super.Sid]

I would request all to watch this video

[Ieldra]

Here's the review from California Literary Review:

http://calitreview.com/24673

The abstract says "Mass Effect 3" commits storytelling suicide" and calls the ending "a thing that ruins dreams", all the while acknowledging that excepting the end, ME3 is the best game in the series. The ending is bad enough to reduce the overall rating to 2.5/5.

The most important sentence I think is this:

Unification through altruism and sacrifice is thrown out for pure nihilism: each of the choices you’re forced to make results in Shepard committing some level of genocide or another, with the benefits removed from any relatable emotional touchstone to the intangible space of far flung statistics.

I've quoted other relevant passages about the ending in this thread.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 19 mars 2012 - 07:03 .

[Getorex]

Amazon.com is giving refunds for returns of Mass Effect 3. Origin/EA Games is offering to exchange ME3 for any other game of your choice of equal value. You are not stuck with this loser...and you can always come back later and re-purchase it if/when Bioware pulls its head out of its ass and fixes the ending.

A fixed ending is one that invites and rewards multiple playthroughs AND multiple Shepards.

As I type this, I am downloading my replacement game and ME3 is deleted from my system.

Modifié par Getorex, 19 mars 2012 - 05:06 .

[Nicky 192]

Rorschachinstein wrote...

This game could've been better than Skryim. Could've been.

This^

[Docmeff22]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Here's the review from California Literary Review:

http://calitreview.com/24673

The abstract says "Mass Effect 3" commits storytelling suicide" and calls the ending "a thing that ruins dreams", all the while acknowledging that excepting the end, ME3 is the best game in the series. The ending is bad enough to reduce the overall rating to 2.5/5.

The most important sentence I think is this:

Unification through altruism and sacrifice is thrown out for pure nihilism: each of the choices you’re forced to make results in Shepard committing some level of genocide or another, with the benefits removed from any relatable emotional touchstone to the intangible space of far flung statistics.

I've quoted other relevant passages about the ending in this thread.

I totally agree with this article.  I have been thinking since finishing the game: "Why do these reviews not mention how bad this ending is?  It RUINED the game!"

The ending not only ruined ME3.  It ruined the entire trilogy.  I will NOT buy DLC or another Bioware game due to the complete ineptitude of the developers.  

If Bioware does not fix the ending the review sites better darn well fix their reviews and give this game what it deserves.  We are talking about an RPG.  Narrative MATTERS. 

The article is perfect.  It was everything I was thinking.

Modifié par Docmeff22, 19 mars 2012 - 07:08 .

[Salis777]

Glad I didnt buy it, sounds like I saved myself an awful lot of disappointment. I guess we'll see if they fix anything...

Modifié par Salis777, 19 mars 2012 - 07:55 .

[Biggtuna]

These reviews don't even go into detail about the ending, which is really my only major complaint - and it is atrocious - other than face import from Mass Effect 2 failure. Listen to the fans!

[Biggtuna]

How they handle this issue determines how much respect they get from fans from here on out.

Modifié par Biggtuna, 19 mars 2012 - 09:10 .

[ohnoyoudidnt]

Ah, press reviews...

"Press". By so called "journalists".

Here's what i think of IGN and the likes: They feature one of their employee in the game, then you expect them to be honest when reviewing it? No.

IGN calls people upset with the ending a "minority" and "entitled".

If anything, these "journalists" are as entitled as the upset people. Indeed, the upset people are simply expressing their opinions towards the ending of the game. Sure, they use some interesting ways to voice their opinions (raising fund for childplay) but they are just voicing their opinion. If it upsets IGN so much to see people give money to charity because they disliked the ending of the game, they should just deal with it. No one is forcing them to witness that.

[Bushido Effect]

And I give the current Black Screen bug a 0/10. Since the game starts and freezes you in eternal blackness forcing a shutdown of your console. Beautiful work.

http://social.biowar.../index/9684873/

[omarmanning]

The Metroid series was my favorite game of all time. It was a shooter with some nonlinear adventure that left you guessing who that powerful mysterious woman was in that suit. I was obsessed with samus my imagination, did it for me... Until they gave her a voice with a script. I was completely turned off. The Mass Effect series has done something no game has done for me, it allows me to connect with my character, to understand and feel emotions while I play. I never felt emotions like sadness and anger while playing a video game. Mass Effect 123 is the first game series that combined a movie with an RPG. The writers of this game are amazing, teamed with outstanding visual effects. It's the best movie experience for me since The Matrix 1 but better because it's complex and interactive. So, I give this team a 10/10, and not to sound too sappy, I will never forget this experiance. Thank you Team Mass Effect. Omar Manning

Modifié par omarmanning, 20 mars 2012 - 04:14 .

[YelIowman]

http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

heres a good review for the reason fans are so pissed about the way bioware ended this game

[Tobi047]

I heard EA don't give a game copy to gamer magazine unless they give them a good mark.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Tobi047 wrote...

I heard EA don't give a game copy to gamer magazine unless they give them a good mark.

It's pretty obvious that most game companies don't give advance / preview copies to publications and websites that give their products poor reviews.

[YelIowman]

and here i thought only politicians could get away with openly lying to people about there promises.  good job casey you brought it to the gaming industry

[YelIowman]

ashame all the reviews were done without reaching the endgame and seeing just how destructive it is to the replay value and overall enjoyment of the series

[jkflipflopDAO]

Plus EA has blatantly bought out rights to good reviews with IGN. Which is smart, because half the gaming sites on the internet fall under the IGN umbrella.

Chobot in the game? I could understand if she had some sort of voice acting skill or some important point in the story - but she has neither. She's a walking advertisement for IGN within the game. Gee, I wonder why IGN attacks the fans that dare get out of line and criticize the ending?

[Killjoy Cutter]

Rain Bringer6 wrote...

Here's a review from the California Literary Review

http://calitreview.com/24673

Should add it to the post with all the other professional reviews.

And this segement of that review sums up the crapgasm of the ending quite nicely.

Without giving anything away, (directly, as all subsequent links will contain some spoilers) the ending, by which I mean the final five to ten minutes, of Mass Effect 3 is easily the worst finale I’ve seen compared to the preceding quality that came before it – in any medium. At literally every level, it’s objectively terrible.
Sloppy execution that reuses art assets reveals that it’s a hurried inclusion. The under thought and over pretentious dialogue does nothing but create bizarre, confusing plot holes. It even commits the same sin The Devil Inside did earlier this year, and has the gall to add an advertisement by the producers at the end of the credits, which is frankly insulting. 
Far more importantly though, it betrays key themes and values well established by the series thus far. Past player choice impacting the shape of events is negated in favor of an arbitrary and poorly explained “pick your favorite color” moment. Science fiction justification in an otherwise material world is abandoned for magical deism, since quite literally, a god in a machine appears. Unification through altruism and sacrifice is thrown out for pure nihilism: each of the choices you’re forced to make results in Shepard committing some level of genocide or another, with the benefits removed from any relatable emotional touchstone to the intangible space of far flung statistics. It even manages to make The Reapers, one of the more imposing forces of antagonism in recent memory, come across as foolish pawns.

[ragnorok87]

this link to a youtube perfectly describes frustration and hate toward the mass effect 3 ending. also it is done tastefully without swearing and being vulgar. please check this out

[neenee77]

Lilarcor01 wrote...

nikola8 wrote...

I love how people who hate the ending are so quick to dismiss any positive review of the game. The list of critical reviews is quite impressive. If you didn't like the game, that's fine. However, that doesn't mean there is universal hate towards the game. A lot of people really like it.

Look the problem is that those positive reviews often fail to take notice of the game's negative side. Or just outright miss the problem with the endings.

^^^^^ this. I looooved the game and the endings at first. I praised bioware for their wonderful game. I still love the game except for the last 5-10 minutes. I dont hate the last part but I have rewatched, read about, and seen reactions (live) to the end. I have also read more about how it doesn't fit in with the lore. Its true it doesn't. I now support the people that hated the end because I understand what they are talking about now. 

[I.leary]

Don't know if this was posted already:
Brazilian website Uol Jogos gave it a 9/10.
Here is the link to the review. It's in portuguese, though

http://jogos.uol.com...ss-effect-3.htm