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[teh_619]

Hahaha pathetic.
No matter how many perfect 10's these "professionals" give it won't make the game any better.
Gaming journalism has been a joke in a long time and the numbers they give are always inflated especially in the more popular genres.

For all the missing features,
photoshopped stock photos,
2007 graphics and even worse animations,
rushed storyline FULL of retcons and plotholes and
the franchise entirely and organically changing from a mediocre (but with great potential) RPG with exploration and shooter elements to a poor gears of war clone,

giving it objectively anywhere over 7.5 pretty much renders your opinion not important.

Modifié par teh_619, 10 mars 2012 - 12:35 .

[Derbydog]

Were any of those reviewers able to import their shepard's face? I wasn't. Can't start, can't play. I'll actually entrust this one to Zero Punctuation this wednesday. I'm sure he'll get it right.

[Icemix]

The game deserves those scores untill the last 20 minutes of the campaign. Fix your damn endings and don't let the best game out there go down in ruins.

[psyqon_odin]

AGREED ...icemix has it...game was best ever till that final moment...now i will jus look forward to WITCHER 3

[azreil2022]

Great job.. I loved mass effect from ME1 And ME2, When people critcize you guys, I stood up for you guys.. When people said dragon age 2 was the worst.. I told people give it an chance.
But what the hell.. really all those hours spent into these games and I get these ending, really at least give me a ending to cheer me up.. The ending's was really bad.. I even have customer's eho been a loyal fan, bring the damn game back because they are disappointed with the ending. Chris if your a bioware employee and I am video game employee. I know about respect. I am not disrespecting you guys, but for the fans and people who supported you guys. It would have been better to delay the game a little longer and give the fans and true gamers and ending worth they hard work with there character.
You guys need to give them hope in a game, when times are depressing...
If you guys read this endings are my biggest problem, but the gameplay is awesome, but the endings took away from it.

[Gyroscopic_Trout]

edit:  urgh, posted this in wrong thread

Modifié par Gyroscopic_Trout, 10 mars 2012 - 04:26 .

[AlanC9]

 I see the New York Times' review is up

I expect to see some heads explode over this one. A lot of haters used to point to Schiesel's review of ME2; he was one of the few professional critics who thought ME2 was merely good, not great, and EA influencing the Times is obviously out of the question.

[Il Divo]

teh_619 wrote...

Hahaha pathetic.
No matter how many perfect 10's these "professionals" give it won't make the game any better.
Gaming journalism has been a joke in a long time and the numbers they give are always inflated especially in the more popular genres.

For all the missing features,
photoshopped stock photos,
2007 graphics and even worse animations,
rushed storyline FULL of retcons and plotholes and
the franchise entirely and organically changing from a mediocre (but with great potential) RPG with exploration and shooter elements to a poor gears of war clone,

giving it objectively anywhere over 7.5 pretty much renders your opinion not important.

Objectivity is an illusion. People need to get over this "anyone who disagrees with me is wrong" mentality. It's extremely weak.

[kalle90]

I can't help but to think that if the name wasn't "Mass Effect 3", but instead something like "Alpha Protocol 2" (sequel to not so popular game) or brand new would the game get similiar line of 10s? It seems plenty of reviews are completely forgiving very glaring flaws.

My short review
+ Gameplay is decent, but combat, upgrading, skills, AI etc. aren't anything you don't see in other games, often done better.
+ The base script is good up until the end. There's plenty going on.

- Audiovisually the game doesn't impress at all
- Reduced dialogue choices and often petty consquences of actions, plus complete ending failure

Otherwise I could give the game perhaps an 8, but that last minus is so huge I have to bump it down to 6/10. Stuff like killing off characters in Twitter, notable day one DLC, unable to play multiplayer solo offline and awful disc swapping routine are just extra stains on the carpet.

[Gigamantis]

kalle90 wrote...

I can't help but to think that if the name wasn't "Mass Effect 3", but instead something like "Alpha Protocol 2" (sequel to not so popular game) or brand new would the game get similiar line of 10s? It seems plenty of reviews are completely forgiving very glaring flaws.

My short review
+ Gameplay is decent, but combat, upgrading, skills, AI etc. aren't anything you don't see in other games, often done better.
+ The base script is good up until the end. There's plenty going on.

- Audiovisually the game doesn't impress at all
- Reduced dialogue choices and often petty consquences of actions, plus complete ending failure

Otherwise I could give the game perhaps an 8, but that last minus is so huge I have to bump it down to 6/10. Stuff like killing off characters in Twitter, notable day one DLC, unable to play multiplayer solo offline and awful disc swapping routine are just extra stains on the carpet.

In my opinion the gameplay and story are both exceptional, the gameplay especially.  The reduced dialogue options are a point against ME3 but I think the gameplay improvements make up for it. 

Audio-visually the game is near the limit of what this generation of consoles can handle, and things like Day 1 DLC and single-player multi-player (wtf?) that you mention are irrelevant to rating the actual game.  

Users are really horrible at reviewing games.  This is why people are forced to default to, and give credence to, real journalists. 

[AlanC9]

I'm kind of glad they didn't kick up the sysreqs, actually. My rig's nearing the end of its useful life, but I don't want to upgrade just yet.

I'm guessing that by single-player multi-player he means that the SP endings can be influenced by MP.

[DivineDrake]

U guys really pulled it through. Simply put, EPIC. Excellent gameplay and mind blowing storyline. U guys at Bioware are absolutely awesome. For some reason "tears kept rolling down my eyes". The storyline is that damn "orgasmic" After DA2 I had my doubts but you guys proved it otherwise. "like the phoenix rising from the ashes" eh. Great job. It's been one helluva ride Bioware with the ME franchise Looking forward to your next big project

[kalle90]

Gigamantis wrote...

kalle90 wrote...

I can't help but to think that if the name wasn't "Mass Effect 3", but instead something like "Alpha Protocol 2" (sequel to not so popular game) or brand new would the game get similiar line of 10s? It seems plenty of reviews are completely forgiving very glaring flaws.

My short review
+ Gameplay is decent, but combat, upgrading, skills, AI etc. aren't anything you don't see in other games, often done better.
+ The base script is good up until the end. There's plenty going on.

- Audiovisually the game doesn't impress at all
- Reduced dialogue choices and often petty consquences of actions, plus complete ending failure

Otherwise I could give the game perhaps an 8, but that last minus is so huge I have to bump it down to 6/10. Stuff like killing off characters in Twitter, notable day one DLC, unable to play multiplayer solo offline and awful disc swapping routine are just extra stains on the carpet.

In my opinion the gameplay and story are both exceptional, the gameplay especially.  The reduced dialogue options are a point against ME3 but I think the gameplay improvements make up for it. 

Audio-visually the game is near the limit of what this generation of consoles can handle, and things like Day 1 DLC and single-player multi-player (wtf?) that you mention are irrelevant to rating the actual game.  

Users are really horrible at reviewing games.  This is why people are forced to default to, and give credence to, real journalists. 

Yea I just listed that extra stuff including day one DLC as extra stains, they don't really affect my rating of the game itself. Atleast it doesn't have a positive effect. Also I like how the class and unlock systems in multiplayer work so I'd like to play it offline as well instead of just playing the maps in story mode.

I wouldn't have cared if ME3 was an interactive movie without gameplay so it can't make up for the dialogue and story issues IMO. Still IMO gameplay is below average, games like Gears, Army of Two and Dead Space have way better gameplay. But gameplay is better than in ME2 for sure.

I do feel that critics are usually much more reliable than users, it's the scores that troubles me. By looking at ME3 critic reviews you can see that most of them have found notable negatives. Yet they give scores over 95 all the way to 100 (10), what is up with that?

[AlanC9]

Doesn't any game have notable negatives? DAO's my favorite game ever, but I can think of several things I'd like changed in it.

Modifié par AlanC9, 10 mars 2012 - 08:03 .

[Gigamantis]

kalle90 wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

kalle90 wrote...

I can't help but to think that if the name wasn't "Mass Effect 3", but instead something like "Alpha Protocol 2" (sequel to not so popular game) or brand new would the game get similiar line of 10s? It seems plenty of reviews are completely forgiving very glaring flaws.

My short review
+ Gameplay is decent, but combat, upgrading, skills, AI etc. aren't anything you don't see in other games, often done better.
+ The base script is good up until the end. There's plenty going on.

- Audiovisually the game doesn't impress at all
- Reduced dialogue choices and often petty consquences of actions, plus complete ending failure

Otherwise I could give the game perhaps an 8, but that last minus is so huge I have to bump it down to 6/10. Stuff like killing off characters in Twitter, notable day one DLC, unable to play multiplayer solo offline and awful disc swapping routine are just extra stains on the carpet.

In my opinion the gameplay and story are both exceptional, the gameplay especially.  The reduced dialogue options are a point against ME3 but I think the gameplay improvements make up for it. 

Audio-visually the game is near the limit of what this generation of consoles can handle, and things like Day 1 DLC and single-player multi-player (wtf?) that you mention are irrelevant to rating the actual game.  

Users are really horrible at reviewing games.  This is why people are forced to default to, and give credence to, real journalists. 

Yea I just listed that extra stuff including day one DLC as extra stains, they don't really affect my rating of the game itself. Atleast it doesn't have a positive effect. Also I like how the class and unlock systems in multiplayer work so I'd like to play it offline as well instead of just playing the maps in story mode.

I wouldn't have cared if ME3 was an interactive movie without gameplay so it can't make up for the dialogue and story issues IMO. Still IMO gameplay is below average, games like Gears, Army of Two and Dead Space have way better gameplay. But gameplay is better than in ME2 for sure.

I do feel that critics are usually much more reliable than users, it's the scores that troubles me. By looking at ME3 critic reviews you can see that most of them have found notable negatives. Yet they give scores over 95 all the way to 100 (10), what is up with that?

I agree that many critics give out perfect scores too easily, but that applies to all games.  It's just how it's always been with these publications and it obviously wasn't going to magically stop for Mass Effect 3. 

It doesn't mean you can't trust publications, though, because even though their scores are slanted in a way that seems intended to kiss butt, they're still consistent.  It seems the trend is that horrible games get mediocre scores, mediocre games get good scores,  good games get great scores and great games get perfect scores.  The key is to actually read the reviews and realize that they grade on a curve. 

I can't stand user reviews because they're almost always blatantly tainted by personal bias, expectation and emotion. 

[Lamina]

 "Why is it no longer possible to add reviews? I know that it might not be constructive with a 100 replies commenting on why the end was discouraging many from playing any of the games again, but maybe it would be nice to have an official poll or something instead then. You would like to know, how the majority felt about the game as a whole, so you can do better next time. And I think there is room for improvement..."

Edit: Sorry. I was not aware, that I had forgotten to register my game. Topic was not closed, I was just an idiot who posts the first time on a bioware forum But the point of this post is still valid to me. End seems out of place, rushed and it ruins everything about the whole war room deal and collecting troops, trying to change the world in some way. I don't need a happy hippi ending with no casualties and everybody drinking tequila on a beach. Just one that makes sense and have some sort of recap of the consequences of each different choice (at least the major ones). Doesn't need to be fancy. I would rather have the doomsday device to have worked, Shepard dying of his/her wounds and some sort of Dragon Age -like text, where it would tell how everything you did had an impact on the future of the Humans, Krogans, Quarians, Geth etc. Don't need a fancy movie or anything as long as I get an ending, that isn't lame and pointless and... and just plain nonsense. (and a BSG rip off)

Loved the two previous games to death. I can live with bugs, small flaws in game play, a few plot holes etc. I actually was extremely positive over the game right up until the end. I was sure my hard work with some awesome missions, but also quite a few tedious task, would pay off in the end... But all endings are alike and doesn't make any sense for me. Nothing mattered. We are killing you because you are going to kill yourself. Unh... Does not do anything for me. Neither does the unoriginal references to Adam and Eve etc. Sigh. So disappointed. But the worst is, that you feel very stupid for spending all that time gaming through 1,2 and 3 games to save the civilisation as we know it. Just to see it all be for nothing. None of your choices mattered. All 3 endings are alike. It would take some kind of taksies backsies for me to even consider throwing money after dlc - or even playing it again. Up until the ending I was thinking of my next 2 run-throughs. A real shame. 

Up until the ending. 9/10, just because I like RPG games. Should probably be a 7.5/10 because of bugs and some control difficulties, tedious tasks, to much waiting in transit ( the citadel elevator being the main problem) etc, but I am such a fanboy for bioware games. But the ending without having used any of the war room content at all???? And in general just very depressing and weird. It pulls the game down to a 2/10 for me. Sorry, but the story was everything for me. Now I will play some random shooter instead.

Modifié par Lamina, 11 mars 2012 - 03:03 .

[Heimdal]

I love ME1 and ME2, I consider them the best RPG:s... ever. It therefore breaks my heart that ME3 is anything but perfect and I can not agree with the majority of the reviewers.
First: That HORRIBLE character customization. Bioware have had 7 years to change that tool but... no. It's still impossible to create a decent male shep. You always end up with something that look like a retarded, genetically defect asian/caucasian hybrid with a round head. Pathetic. And don't say I should use the default Shep. In my world some airhead danish photomodel just doesn't work as a smart and tough-as-nails commander. Sorry.
Second: James "******" Vega and Jessica Chobot. That is all.
Third: The first half of the game is more like interactive movie and less RPG. Good show.
All in all a REALLY sub-par game and a bad conclusion to the trilogy. Didn't think I would be saying this but... seems like Dragon Age II isn't the worst Bioware game any more.

[B.Shep]

Well the game was amazing im my oppinion until you reach the endings....

Modifié par B.Shep, 11 mars 2012 - 12:23 .

[batlin]

teh_619 wrote...

Hahaha pathetic.
No matter how many perfect 10's these "professionals" give it won't make the game any better.
Gaming journalism has been a joke in a long time and the numbers they give are always inflated especially in the more popular genres.

For all the missing features,
photoshopped stock photos,
2007 graphics and even worse animations,
rushed storyline FULL of retcons and plotholes and
the franchise entirely and organically changing from a mediocre (but with great potential) RPG with exploration and shooter elements to a poor gears of war clone,

giving it objectively anywhere over 7.5 pretty much renders your opinion not important.

Gotta agree with this.

[Crypto109]

Grats Bioware This has really been the best game ever i never played games untill mass effect 1 was out and all a did was wait for each game to come out best games ever made  i really dont want the saga to end

[stbaler]

Liked the game, but well the endings left me with more questions then answers. Still great game, and congrats Bioware.

[Hoyocantaro]

0/1000
What a final mission and ending. Bioware+EA. I just wanted something but this... jiff

[Hoyocantaro]

teh_619 wrote...

Hahaha pathetic.
No matter how many perfect 10's these "professionals" give it won't make the game any better.
Gaming journalism has been a joke in a long time and the numbers they give are always inflated especially in the more popular genres.

For all the missing features,
photoshopped stock photos,
2007 graphics and even worse animations,
rushed storyline FULL of retcons and plotholes and
the franchise entirely and organically changing from a mediocre (but with great potential) RPG with exploration and shooter elements to a poor gears of war clone,

giving it objectively anywhere over 7.5 pretty much renders your opinion not important.

<3

[superjoooooooood]

This game is so master full this is one of best games ever.

What a game this is insane

So far the best game i played.

Wow really thanks fore making this game.

Greetz from the netherlands.

Modifié par superjoooooooood, 11 mars 2012 - 04:45 .

[VAIOMANIAC]

Derbydog wrote...

Were any of those reviewers able to import their shepard's face? I wasn't. Can't start, can't play. I'll actually entrust this one to Zero Punctuation this wednesday. I'm sure he'll get it right.

Oh man his review is gonna be awesome can´t wait