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[lucidfox]

Isn't it insanely hard to do through singleplayer alone, though?

[ForceXev]

I really don't like this aspect. Multiplayer should not affect single player... that should be blatantly obvious. Even though you can get the best ending without multiplayer, now they require you to hunt down and complete every side-mission, which I personally do not enjoy. In ME2, I did not enjoy doing those side-missions that have a low-quality feel to them, with little to no voice-overs and a lame story tacked on with journal logs or something.  I fear it's going to make the game feel like a "grind."

Modifié par ForceXev, 06 mars 2012 - 06:10 .

[AkiKishi]

OdanUrr wrote...

Jarrett Lee wrote...

No - it means you need to collect as many war assets as possible in SP, but you can achieve perfect ending without MP.

Ah, but what is "perfect"?

I think it's 5000 points and 4000 if you import.

in case people want to put a figure on the abstract calculation.

[OdanUrr]

ForceXev wrote...

I really don't like this aspect. Multiplayer should not affect single player... that should be blatantly obvious. Even though you can get the best ending without multiplayer, now they require you to hunt down and complete every side-mission, which I personally do not enjoy. In ME2, I did not enjoy doing those side-missions that have a low-quality feel to them, with little to no voice-overs and a lame story tacked on with journal logs or something.  I fear it's going to make the game feel like a "grind."

Some of those missions are surprisingly short, sort of an excuse for you to scout ahead a MP map.

[OdanUrr]

BobSmith101 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Jarrett Lee wrote...

No - it means you need to collect as many war assets as possible in SP, but you can achieve perfect ending without MP.

Ah, but what is "perfect"?

I think it's 5000 points and 4000 if you import.

in case people want to put a figure on the abstract calculation.

I'd rather put an ending to the abstract calculation.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 06 mars 2012 - 06:14 .

[DiegoRaphael]

PCGamer also doesn't like it...

"...t’s all rather… dirty. Presumably they’re trying to encourage you to try the multiplayer because to do well in it, you have to buy or earn unlockable items, and you can get these for real money. But they’re doing it by hurting your single player game, slapping a good playthrough with a bad ending as a penalty for not playing co-op. Even if you like co-op, it’s not unreasonable to want to play through the single player first.

It is possible to get the best ending in single player without playing multiplayer, but it’s twice as hard. All your War Assets only count for 50% of their potential value. The biggest gains in War Assets come from a culmination of your decisions in the previous games and your decisions in this one: if you’ve helped a race before, and you help them here, it’s often possible to get their full support and resolve their conflict to get someone else on your side too."

What i get from that, is that you need to have done everything right on the pass games to get the "best ending" only with single player.

I imagine ppl that are entering the series only now with ME3, can't get without multi.

And what happens, if lets say, 2 years from now, i want to play ME3 but the multiservers are already closed?

[StrikeSaber47]

I guess it doesn't hurt to play MP to ease up the the number of side quests or to ensure that you will achieve everything to get the best ending, however I do feel relieved that you don't need iOS applications or the MP to be forced upon you to get the best ending. Think of it as alternative method(s) to help you achieve the score to get the ending you want.

[Costin_Razvan]

ForceXev wrote...

I really don't like this aspect. Multiplayer should not affect single player... that should be blatantly obvious. Even though you can get the best ending without multiplayer, now they require you to hunt down and complete every side-mission, which I personally do not enjoy. In ME2, I did not enjoy doing those side-missions that have a low-quality feel to them, with little to no voice-overs and a lame story tacked on with journal logs or something.  I fear it's going to make the game feel like a "grind."

You're going to have to work to defeat the Reapers. Besides "Side Missions" as you call them have been vastly improved.

[ForceXev]

Hopefully some sort of mod/hack will come out to adjust this... like the ME2 save game editor that lets you give yourself lots of resources so you don't have to do the planet surveying. It may seem almost reasonable at first, but it'll be exceedingly annoying for repeat play-thoughs.

[f4rris]

love how ppl don't check their facts

Modifié par f4rris, 06 mars 2012 - 06:27 .

[CasbynessPC]

All I heard on this thread was "side missions are TIMED", then I passed out for 15 minutes from shock.

TIMED?!

EA brainstorming session - mid-November 2011: "Okay guys, let's think up as many ways as possible to hurt the ME3 players as revenge for what they did to DA2's sales..."



When I play new games I pull the internet cable out the back of my Xbox 360. I put it back in after the first playthrough. I will never touch MP mode.

[Costin_Razvan]

It's not a thing related to real hours or minutes or anything like that, it's more along the lines.

"Finished main mission."

"side mission pops up" You ignore it and continue doing 2-3 more main missions.

"Side missions vanishes"

[AkiKishi]

CasbynessPC wrote...

All I heard on this thread was "side missions are TIMED", then I passed out for 15 minutes from shock.

TIMED?!

EA brainstorming session - mid-November 2011: "Okay guys, let's think up as many ways as possible to hurt the ME3 players as revenge for what they did to DA2's sales..."



When I play new games I pull the internet cable out the back of my Xbox 360. I put it back in after the first playthrough. I will never touch MP mode.

I've heard both. Some people say it's plot based like with ME2 , others say it's an actual ticking clock in the background.

[Derek Larke]

Jarrett Lee wrote...

No - it means you need to collect as many war assets as possible in SP, but you can achieve perfect ending without MP.

That sounds like a happy ening to me, Jarrett.

[WarGriffin]

Terminus Echoes wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Jarrett Lee wrote...

No - it means you need to collect as many war assets as possible in SP, but you can achieve perfect ending without MP.

Ah, but what is "perfect"?

 
What is love?

Baby don't hurt me!

www.youtube.com/watch

[Palathas]

OdanUrr wrote...

Jarrett Lee wrote...

No - it means you need to collect as many war assets as possible in SP, but you can achieve perfect ending without MP.

Ah, but what is "perfect"?

I win and I get the girl. That's my perfect.

[ttchip]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

It's not a thing related to real hours or minutes or anything like that, it's more along the lines.

"Finished main mission."

"side mission pops up" You ignore it and continue doing 2-3 more main missions.

"Side missions vanishes"

So it's not tied to real time or something, just to progress within the plot?

[Cooling85]

I don't know what to think, tbh. Some people are saying it is REALLY hard to get the best possible ending without multiplayer, because it is easy to fail the quests...

I suppose I'll have to wait till Friday to find out

[Cooling85]

Just thought I'd update...from this piece, it looks really bad:



www.gameranx.com/updates/id/5441/article/how-much-does-mass-effect-3-s-multiplayer-affect-your-single-player-ending/

Edit: Fixed link

Modifié par Cooling85, 06 mars 2012 - 09:49 .

[Maria Caliban]

DiegoRaphael wrote...

Presumably they’re trying to encourage you to try the multiplayer because to do well in it, you have to buy or earn unlockable items, and you can get these for real money.

Other than L4D, I've never played an MP game like this before and I unlocked a ton of stuff and got to N7 100.

I think there's one item you can buy with real money at this point, and it's not as powerful as a carnifex.

[finc.loki]

Cooling85 wrote...

Just thought I'd update...from this piece, it looks really bad:



www.gameranx.com/updates/id/5441/article/how-much-does-mass-effect-3-s-multiplayer-affect-your-single-player-ending/

Edit: Fixed link

This is unbelievably bad.
What the hell did you do Bioware, you promised us we were not forced, yet you hide behind that "well you have 1 in a 100 chance to DO get the best ending clause".

I am literally starting to hate Bioware soon.

[AlanC9]

This all sounds more like the MP players are being screwed than the SP players. The last thing I want from a Bio game is to make it easier than it already is, and my understanding it there's no way to play MP without having it make your SP easier, unless you wait for the decay function.

Good thing I'm not going to play MP at all.

[Aulis Vaara]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I think there's one item you can buy with real money at this point, and it's not as powerful as a carnifex.

It's actually true that you can buy weapons in multiplayer? :-( That's disappointing to say the least...

Modifié par Aulis Vaara, 06 mars 2012 - 10:15 .

[KnifeForkAndSpoon]

Bioware does it again

[Cooling85]

What I'm hanging on to is that it is really hard (and you have to do all the missions) ONLY if you don't import a 'good' character (or not import at all). From OXM UK website, on the review page, one comment says you shouldn't need to play multiplayer if you're importing a good Shepard...

Modifié par Cooling85, 06 mars 2012 - 10:18 .