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[DARKWUN]

Clarian wrote...

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Clarian have you tried Phoenix52gx's method of using Gibbed and such?

Funny you should ask, I just finished:



Unfortunately, that's about all it did for me.  Kinda pinched the mouth and nose.  It really looks less like my Shep than the direct import.  My real problems are the overall head shape, how the eyebrows are mapped, and of course the ME3 eyes, but it didn't end up doing much for those.

But, I still appreciate Pheonix's efforts, of course...

Don't know which is which, but I think the one with the fuller lips looks the best imo

[Clarian]

Tobias Fenrir wrote...
The really ironic thing about all this is that I was TERRIFIED for the past 2 years that something would happen to my save file and my Shepard would be lost before the third game came out.

Yeah, and I remember really agonizing over the cc in the first game because I was like, "I've gotta get this right, I'll be seeing this face for THREE GAMES!" Heh hehhhhh...if only.

Modifié par Clarian, 13 mars 2012 - 02:45 .

[Clarian]

DARKWUN wrote...

Don't know which is which, but I think the one with the fuller lips looks the best imo

Yeah, that's the direct import.

[Tobias Fenrir]

Clarian wrote...

Tobias Fenrir wrote...
The really ironic thing about all this is that I was TERRIFIED for the past 2 years that something would happen to my save file and my Shepard would be lost before the third game came out.

Yeah, and I remember really agonizing over the cc in the first game because I was like, "I've gotta get this right, I'll be seeing this face for THREE GAMES!" Heh hehhhhh...if only.

Yeah, I think I remade my Shepard about 5 times before I settled on one.

[floreairfoot]

Can we please get an update on the fix.

Do you all have a time frame?

Thx

[MrRoyGBiv]

Good lord, tell us something already. Tell us it could take a few more days, or even it could take 2 more weeks. ANYTHING. Just an approximation!

Modifié par MrRoyGBiv, 13 mars 2012 - 02:53 .

[Ed B]

Chris,

A face I created in ME2 is not being read upon import also.

Ed

[Kastigar]

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I want updates (whenever they occur) to clue us in on what the fix/patch will be. If it's something akin to the me1-2 import it'll be worth waiting for. If ME3 just fudges it, then I might as well make the effort to return the game (or deal with it).

I fully believe we'll never see an ETA, too many people will treat it as a deadline and go nuts if Bioware misses that window.

Sadly the excitement I had leading up to launch has died away. I have friends raving about it, but I just don't care. If it isn't my Shepard, then I don't care about the story. His presence is pivotal to the enjoyment of my experience. I only have 1 Shepard, spent hundreds of hours playing him across at least a dozen play throughs, 3 isn't worth it to me without that character remaining in tact.

[FeministShep]

Clarian wrote...

Tobias Fenrir wrote...
The really ironic thing about all this is that I was TERRIFIED for the past 2 years that something would happen to my save file and my Shepard would be lost before the third game came out.

Yeah, and I remember really agonizing over the cc in the first game because I was like, "I've gotta get this right, I'll be seeing this face for THREE GAMES!" Heh hehhhhh...if only.

Ha yea, I always spend a ton of time editing a face for some reason. 

[ThinkIntegral]

Clarian wrote...

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Clarian have you tried Phoenix52gx's method of using Gibbed and such?

Funny you should ask, I just finished:



Unfortunately, that's about all it did for me.  Kinda pinched the mouth and nose.  It really looks less like my Shep than the direct import.  My real problems are the overall head shape, how the eyebrows are mapped, and of course the ME3 eyes, but it didn't end up doing much for those.

But, I still appreciate Pheonix's efforts, of course...

What a rip.  Have you tried looking at her in any in game shots? Geezus what a ****g mess this all is.

[FeministShep]

Kastigar wrote...

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I want updates (whenever they occur) to clue us in on what the fix/patch will be. If it's something akin to the me1-2 import it'll be worth waiting for. If ME3 just fudges it, then I might as well make the effort to return the game (or deal with it).
 

The lack of updating is irritating to say the least. I mean, they can at least tell us what kind of changes they are making. And I am 100% certain they knew about this during launch. Really unprofesional. I can't imagine Blizzard or Bethesda doing this. They are like MGM or Warner Bros back in the golden age of movies. They get it done when its done. They don't release games they know are unfinished because they respect their audience and have high standards. In another 4 years I suspect Bioware will be gone. People are already leaving SWTOR because its underwhelming. Dragon Age 2's recycled levels pissed a lot of people off. This Mass Effect deal is strike 3 for a lot of people, myself included.

Modifié par FeministShep, 13 mars 2012 - 04:09 .

[UntalkativeBunny]

FeministShep wrote...

Kastigar wrote...

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I want updates (whenever they occur) to clue us in on what the fix/patch will be. If it's something akin to the me1-2 import it'll be worth waiting for. If ME3 just fudges it, then I might as well make the effort to return the game (or deal with it).
 

The lack of updating is irritating to say the least. I mean, they can at least tell us what kind of changes they are making. And I am 100% certain they knew about this during launch. Really unproffesional. I can't imagine Blizzard or Bethesda doing this. They are like MGM or Warner Bros back in the golden age of movies. They get it done when its done. They don't release games they know are unfinished because they respect their audience and have high standards. In another 4 years I suspect Bioware will be gone. People are already leaving SWTOR because its underwhelming. Dragon Age 2's recycled levels pissed a lot of people off. This Mass Effect deal is strike 3 for a lot of people, myself included.

Have you played Skyrim? o.O It had glitches that shouldn't have passed testing, I had to replay it over three times due to quest glitches. This issue compared to Skyrim is minor, but I choose not to play it till it is fixed nonetheless.

Patches do take time which is what people here don't seem to understand, it's only been a week since release. Once you factor in the patch priority and testing on three platforms, it can take up to a month. Find another game to play till then.

Modifié par UntalkativeBunny, 13 mars 2012 - 03:30 .

[FeministShep]

AvagerShepard wrote...

Oh, now suddenly all of you loves Bioware? Damn hypocrites.

As I wrote in the thread about this, I never believed this was done on purpose.

I don't. Not revealing the problem in the demo when they knew people were having an issue was unethical. They should have told us before we bought the game. The whole situation was handled badly.

Modifié par FeministShep, 13 mars 2012 - 03:33 .

[favoritehookeronthecitadel]

Crap quality pictures for the win

ME2



ME3


Yeah, I'm a lucky one. But for those of you who haven't played it yet because of the importing Shepard problem, even if you went through the work-around, just try to get it to as close as you can, and then- I can't stress this enough- play the game. I promise it'll look more like your Shepard in the game than it does when you're importing them.

Anyway, so after 6 long miserable days, I've got my Shepard and can play ME3 and look forward to the awesome conclusion to this super-awesome series that'll tie up all lose ends and leave me satisfied. Nothing can go wrong now. Right? Right?



..........right?

[BAC PARTY CITY]

UntalkativeBunny wrote...

FeministShep wrote...

Kastigar wrote...

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I want updates (whenever they occur) to clue us in on what the fix/patch will be. If it's something akin to the me1-2 import it'll be worth waiting for. If ME3 just fudges it, then I might as well make the effort to return the game (or deal with it).
 

The lack of updating is irritating to say the least. I mean, they can at least tell us what kind of changes they are making. And I am 100% certain they knew about this during launch. Really unproffesional. I can't imagine Blizzard or Bethesda doing this. They are like MGM or Warner Bros back in the golden age of movies. They get it done when its done. They don't release games they know are unfinished because they respect their audience and have high standards. In another 4 years I suspect Bioware will be gone. People are already leaving SWTOR because its underwhelming. Dragon Age 2's recycled levels pissed a lot of people off. This Mass Effect deal is strike 3 for a lot of people, myself included.

Have you played Skyrim? o.O It had glitches that shouldn't have passed testing, I had to replay it over three times due to quest glitches. This issue compared to Skyrim is minor, but I choose not to play it till it is fixed nonetheless.

Patches do take time which is what people here don't seem to understand, it's only been a week since release. Once you factor in the patch priority and testing on three platforms, it can take up to a month. Find another game to play till then.

The Skyrim glitches were minor compared to this. Played through the whole game for many many hours didn't encounter any serious glitches.  And its understandable in a free roam open world game with that much content and variability.  Mass Effect doesn't have that at all.

[FeministShep]

UntalkativeBunny wrote...

FeministShep wrote...

Kastigar wrote...

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I want updates (whenever they occur) to clue us in on what the fix/patch will be. If it's something akin to the me1-2 import it'll be worth waiting for. If ME3 just fudges it, then I might as well make the effort to return the game (or deal with it).
 

The lack of updating is irritating to say the least. I mean, they can at least tell us what kind of changes they are making. And I am 100% certain they knew about this during launch. Really unprofesional. I can't imagine Blizzard or Bethesda doing this. They are like MGM or Warner Bros back in the golden age of movies. They get it done when its done. They don't release games they know are unfinished because they respect their audience and have high standards. In another 4 years I suspect Bioware will be gone. People are already leaving SWTOR because its underwhelming. Dragon Age 2's recycled levels pissed a lot of people off. This Mass Effect deal is strike 3 for a lot of people, myself included.

Have you played Skyrim? o.O It had glitches that shouldn't have passed testing, I had to replay it over three times due to quest glitches. This issue compared to Skyrim is minor, but I choose not to play it till it is fixed nonetheless.

Patches do take time which is what people here don't seem to understand, it's only been a week since release. Once you factor in the patch priority and testing on three platforms, it can take up to a month. Find another game to play till then.

Which version of Skyrim? PC or console? I've started several characters on the PS3 and have not had an issue asside from the occassional freeze. Skyrim isn't a trilogy, so a few quest bugs don't make the game unplayable if you have back ups. I would understand if ME3 had issues. If they were honest up front I would feel a lot better about it. I would have waited to buy the game I wouldn't have the feeling that I am stuck with a product I don't even know if I want anymore.

Modifié par FeministShep, 13 mars 2012 - 04:05 .

[UntalkativeBunny]

BAC PARTY CITY wrote...

The Skyrim glitches were minor compared to this. Played through the whole game for many many hours didn't encounter any serious glitches.  And its understandable in a free roam open world game with that much content and variability.  Mass Effect doesn't have that at all.

I have to laugh at that. Glitches are glitches, Skyrim was filled with them and broken quests weren't fixed till a few patches after the other fixes were released, not to mention the patch that broke other things in game. The whole face import is pretty minor, it isn't game breaking at all cause you can still play it but you choose not to.

I'll wait for a patch, cause nagging won't help and a rushed patch will most likely break something else in game.

[Clarian]

ThinkIntegral wrote...
Have you tried looking at her in any in game shots? Geezus what a ****g mess this all is.

Maybe I can put some up tomorrow.  But I thought the direct comparison would be most informative.  In-game, it...doesn't look any better than my previous in-game shots.  

On top of that, I got full-on eyeball clipping one time when she closed her eyes. XD I should post a shot of that.  Guess when you mod that kind of stuff to that extent, you can be asking for it...

[DARKWUN]

FeministShep wrote...

Kastigar wrote...

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I want updates (whenever they occur) to clue us in on what the fix/patch will be. If it's something akin to the me1-2 import it'll be worth waiting for. If ME3 just fudges it, then I might as well make the effort to return the game (or deal with it).
 

The lack of updating is irritating to say the least. I mean, they can at least tell us what kind of changes they are making. And I am 100% certain they knew about this during launch. Really unproffesional. I can't imagine Blizzard or Bethesda doing this. They are like MGM or Warner Bros back in the golden age of movies. They get it done when its done. They don't release games they know are unfinished because they respect their audience and have high standards. In another 4 years I suspect Bioware will be gone. People are already leaving SWTOR because its underwhelming. Dragon Age 2's recycled levels pissed a lot of people off. This Mass Effect deal is strike 3 for a lot of people, myself included.

I'm willing to join an angry mob or two, but hey, let's not forget the Bethesda/Skyrim problem... There's NO way that went without being noticed and was highly unfinished. You either get to play it, had to to some god awful workarounds, or it was unplayable. As diabolical as the fan treatment of this predicament is, I'll give them that, Bethesda are much worse. Fallout... buggy  as a wild wester hookers merkin. I just wish we were kept in the loop. Yeah I'm playing now, but I know so many who aren't, and are just waiting to get stuck in

EDIT** late to the party! Too busy reading the codex... now that I actually can... unlike the last game lol

Modifié par DARKWUN, 13 mars 2012 - 04:04 .

[FeministShep]

DARKWUN wrote...

FeministShep wrote...

Kastigar wrote...

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. I want updates (whenever they occur) to clue us in on what the fix/patch will be. If it's something akin to the me1-2 import it'll be worth waiting for. If ME3 just fudges it, then I might as well make the effort to return the game (or deal with it).
 

The lack of updating is irritating to say the least. I mean, they can at least tell us what kind of changes they are making. And I am 100% certain they knew about this during launch. Really unproffesional. I can't imagine Blizzard or Bethesda doing this. They are like MGM or Warner Bros back in the golden age of movies. They get it done when its done. They don't release games they know are unfinished because they respect their audience and have high standards. In another 4 years I suspect Bioware will be gone. People are already leaving SWTOR because its underwhelming. Dragon Age 2's recycled levels pissed a lot of people off. This Mass Effect deal is strike 3 for a lot of people, myself included.

I'm willing to join an angry mob or two, but hey, let's not forget the Bethesda/Skrim problem... There's NO way that went without being noticed and was highly unfinished. You either get to play it, had to to some god awful workarounds, or it was unplayable. As diabolical as the fan treatment of this predicament is, I'll give them that, Bethesda are much worse. Fallout... buggy  as a wild wester hookers merkin. I just wish we were kept in the loop. Yeah I'm playing now, but I know so many who aren't, and are just waiting to get stuck in

Are you talking about pc? Skyrim isn't a trilogy, so a few quest bugs don't make the game unplayable if you have back ups. I would understand if ME3 had issues. If they were honest up front I would feel a lot better about it. I would have waited to buy the game. I wouldn't have the feeling that I am stuck with a product I don't even know if I want anymore.

Modifié par FeministShep, 13 mars 2012 - 03:44 .

[Kastigar]

Not to derail the thread too much, but Bethesda gets a pass a lot of the time with it's bugs. I've heard just about everyone I know say "it's a Bethesda game, it's just the way it is", hell I've said it too. I love Bethesda games, and in some ways it isn't fair to judge them on a level lower than what we expect from other developers.

But on the flip side, no game in my 21 years of playing them has made me care more about the person I've played/created than this one. Add to this, that I expect greatness from Bioware (they had a pretty flawless record for a long time) and it bugs me even more this is even an issue. So this one....incredibly glaring issue (imo) is more detrimental to the experience than every glitch in every Bethesda game combined for me.

The more I try to justify fudging it with the CC in 3, the more I resent the idea. It's like replacing Mark Hammil as Luke...but still having Mark's voice come out of whoever they got. It's jarring and it breaks my connection to the story and to the character.

Modifié par Kastigar, 13 mars 2012 - 03:54 .

[FeministShep]

Kastigar wrote...


The more I try to justify fudging it with the CC in 3, the more I resent the idea. It's like replacing Mark Hammil as Luke...but still having Mark's voice come out of whoever they got. It's jarring and it breaks my connection to the story and to the character.

Like when they replaced Katie Holmes with Maggie Gyllenhall (i know Holmes can't act but Rachel Dawes isn't exactly a complex or interesting character). It just didn't feel right even though Gyllenhall was a better actress. I think Katie Holmes' uneven acting would have been more tolerable than a new face (and not a very attractive one). Same goes for the Matrix trilogy with the Oracle, although to be fair I think she died. I remember in the movie they tried some lame excuse but it just made the problem more obvious. It feels the same way when I played ME3. The more I try to live with the foreign face and try to pretend it doesn't matter the more I'm taken out of the game. 

Games are like magic. It's an illusion. We identify with our Shepards because we feel we created them but in reality everyone's Shepard is basically the same (moral differences asside). It's the same voice actress or actor with a limited amount of lines and prerendered cut scenes. What makes us forget this is the fact they are our creation. We forget this is just a dialogue branching fictional game and it seems real for a second. But when the faces don't match it takes us out of the illusion. We realize everytime we see that wrong nose that our Shepard really isn't that unique. In fact we didn't even really create him or her because everything was already predesigned. The face importing issue just isn't aesthetics. It's a part of the suspension of disbelief that is required in order to feel like the game is real.

Modifié par FeministShep, 13 mars 2012 - 04:07 .

[batman22]

Well i tryed playing with my recreated shepard and after an hour i could not play anymore, its just not the same without my shepard, so i will just have to wait untill theres a patch hopefully by this weekend.

[Kastigar]

FeministShep wrote...

Like when they replaced Katie Holmes with Maggie Gyllenhall (i know Holmes can't act but Rachel Dawes isn't exactly a complex or interesting character). It just didn't feel right even though Gyllenhall was a better actress. I think Katie Holmes' uneven acting would have been more tolerable than a new face (and not a very attractive one). Same goes for the Matrix trilogy with the Oracle, although to be fair I think she died. I remember in the movie they tried some lame excuse but it just made the problem more obvious. It feels the same way when I played ME3. The more I try to live with the foreign face and try to pretend it doesn't matter the more I'm taken out of the game. 

Exactly, and the woman who played the Oracle did die, so they were sort of forced into it. One thing I did sort of like was that Neo was as baffled as the audience when seeing her again. Sure it drew attention to the swap, but most of us in the theater had probably already noticed. The Dark Knight is a good example too. I knew who the character was supposed to be going in, but that didn't stop my friends and I from pointing out the weirdness almost as soon as Maggie hit the screen.

Edit: Excellent edition to your post by the way. That brings up some really good points about why the failed imports/recreats look and feel so...wrong.

Modifié par Kastigar, 13 mars 2012 - 04:03 .

[JBauer24Tactics]

Can anyone please point me to the 'Gibbed Save Editor' official thread
so I can learn how to use it?