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Issue importing faces into Mass Effect 3 Updated March 21


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#3526
Yobel

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Chrischn89 wrote...

YobelX wrote...

In Mass Effect 2 Illusive Man rebuild Shepard. Creators of Illusive Man cannot rebuild Shepard in Mass Effect 3.

BioWare is dead, money lives forever.


This should be a meme..!


Then let's spread this thought around (you have my blessing), show them that companies are not only cynical but also full of laughable background. Not in a good way.

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You know you'd be amazed how far an apology goes. "guys, we're really sorry. We absolutely understand how crucial this is and we should have caught this issue before launch. It is our fault. We are working non-stop on a fix for this. Developers were kept home from GDC. Vacations were canceled. We will not stop until we have fixed this issue that is preventing you from even starting our game. We hope to have a fix within a week, but we will update you as to the reality of that ETA as we know more. Expect to hear from us once a day until this is fixed. Also we understand that those of you for who this issue is game breaking are probably our fans who pre-order all of our games and sing our praises at every oppurtunity. Thanks for being with us for so long. We're going to make this up to you."

That would completely erase my anger. People make mistakes. You were under a lot of pressure. It's fine. Own up and fix it. That's all we care about. We don't need a lynching. We don't need you to put the QA or developer responsible on a pyre and let us watch. We don't need to know whose fault it is. We just need you, as a company, to own up and communicate.

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Pheonix52gx.

Well thank you for all the time and effort you have put into this topic.
I noticed my femshep looks a lot like yours.
( maybe they are twin sisters ) :)

Take Care!
See you at the bar in the Citadel ( ill buy you some drinks and a Lapdance) :)

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Pheonix52gx wrote...

It has been requested that I create a blog to show the methodology I went through to understand how to get some better results than the YAML method. This blog includes my lengthy Gibbed import tutorial with instructions for getting your save off of the X360 as well. Credits are given to those who have helped in the contruction of this guide.

http://faceeffect.blogspot.com/ 


:wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::D:D:D:D

#3530
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BIOWARE PLEASE SAY AT WHICH POINT ARE YOU ABOUT THE PATCH!!

I think we deserve almost that ^^

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retsmot wrote...

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They really messed up the eyelashes. Small detail but it's another mistake in the long list of them they've made when it comes to the face editor/ graphics engine.


i'm glad i'm  not the only one who notices this. eyelashes seem to too bushy at the bottom while it should have been bushier at the top? did they reverse the eyelids or something? 

for the love of god how i wish this game was mod-able like dragon age or skyrim. those beauty expert modders will fix that faster than bioware could say, "but we...", and then some.


Amen to both of you on the eyelash thing. The new lashes look rediculous, like stripper lashes. I assume this is in keeping with the effort to sex up ME3.

I can't believe how much more realistic ME1/2 faces look when compared to ME3. :whistle:

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still no news this is disappointing to say the least

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Pheonix52gx wrote...

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I have a question to you guys, I have imported my Shepard from ME1 y ME2. but, as everybody knows, the face could not be imported, The rest of the data collected from my previous games is still used inspite of the new face I have created?

Supposedly, yes. Plot data such as loyalty missions and who lives or dies is imported, and from what I can tell, that process is working. You should see a summary of what you're importing when you do it in ME3.



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Should have said this before but I actually tweeted this out. Wasn't impressed to be honest.

"Should I delay my #MassEffect3 play through until the face import bug is patched? How long, roughly? @BioEvilChris @masseffect @CaseyDHudson"

I got this in return

"@TrueHeresy As of now we can't say but we'er investigating the matter. Let us know what you decide!"

http://twitter.com/m...250304654032896 (link as proof, and evidence of how long it took me to say this...)

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Emphyr wrote...

Pheonix52gx wrote...

Sir Martyn Saint wrote...
I have a question to you guys, I have imported my Shepard from ME1 y ME2. but, as everybody knows, the face could not be imported, The rest of the data collected from my previous games is still used inspite of the new face I have created?

Supposedly, yes. Plot data such as loyalty missions and who lives or dies is imported, and from what I can tell, that process is working. You should see a summary of what you're importing when you do it in ME3.

SCARILY SIMILAR PLOT

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...I noticed my femshep looks a lot like yours.
( maybe they are twin sisters ) :)...

 
OK Emphyr, are you me? Because the similarities are striking. Plot and appearance are almost exactly the same. I prefered Kaiden over Ashley. I couldn't get past her inbuilt xenophobia, but then Presley's datapad at the crash site made me rethink that a little. At least Kaiden offsets James' "Super Mario Steroids" look.

About the appearance, I've seen a lot of Sheps like mine. I don't think I'm very original to be honest, but that just shows that if my Shep won't look right, all those people who look like mine won't either.

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I think the news websites have let this go, we should mail them and suggest they run another story on the terrible treatment of fans by Bioware. Perhaps if bad press kept appearing they might actually give us a clue as to what they are going to fix and when?

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Quote is from 26 pages ago but I'll reply to it anyway...
(Didn't have time before, sorry!)

GreyM0user wrote...

Kappa Neko wrote...
So if your Shepard is a similar mix of resemblance and difference, please play the game and maybe you'll grow fond of her again like me.


No offense, but your ME2 and ME3 Shepards look completely different. Personally, I don't see how you can view them as the same person.

However, some people notice differences in faces more than others. I'm an artist, so the differences between subtle eye, mouth and head shapes jump out at me. Not only that, but many people form extremely close associations between voice and face. The voice forms a mental image of the face you're expecting to see. When it's off, it's incredibly jarring. There is no way in hell I'd ever accept your ME3 Shepard as remotely similar to your ME2 one, if that was my own Shepard.

It's spiffy that it works for you, but don't belittle other people's choice to not play until we can get an exact import of the characters we have known for the last 5 years. Some of us just aren't going to make the leap. I tried for 4 hours to recreate the Shepard I knew, and every time I started playing, I felt like I was watching a mannequin emulating the character, no matter what I did to try to fix it. The gulf only became wider further into the game I went.

I'm not an artist but it's not as if I don't see the differences. It's not even a close resemblance. In profile the difference between the nose to mouth to chin shape is big. Not too fond of the round cheeks. They make her look like she's still got some baby fat left, but when she frowns she looks 40.
I too noticed that the faces all used to be much longer and you could get them to be quite narrow.
Somebody posted a femShep with a bun who had quite elegant features. Now it's all gone. So, what made that Shepard stand out was destroyed.

Well, hard to explain exactly why my ME3 Shep is fine for me ... I guess it really boils down to finding the new Shepard appealing for the same reasons as the old one. Roughly anyway. The eyes still bug me, though.
Maybe because I accepted that all the Shepards got re-invented by the new CC and graphics, I have come to see mine as that re-invention and made peace with it.
I am still upset about the issue, don't get me wrong. I'd love my Shep to look the way she did before. But it's not going to happen.
I am just glad I like her new looks. (I am a straight female player, though. Maybe I'd be more upset if I managed to create a manShep as the object of my desire, so to speak, and he ended up being a turn-off now.)
The ME2 Shepards don't look exactly like they did in ME1, either. Very close, I'd say 90%. But I believe the faces were already less narrow in ME2, weren't they? They tuned up the make-up and the blush.
Now in ME3 I'd put the resemblance at 60-70%.

I suggested people try to play with their ME3 Shepards because I got the feeling most people give up after 10 minutes of the intro. And it took me quit a bit longer to get comfortable with the new look.
However, I greatly sympathize with those of you who cannot accept the changes. I really do.
I am very very fond of my ME2 Shepard.

Btw, yes, Hale's voice is linked to my first Shepard. Oddly, that's not the case with Meer. Maybe because to me Shepard is female anyway and I only played male for the romances. I was not satisfied with the looks of the two manSheps I have. Hale's voice on my other femShep felt strange. Like movie dubbing.
Fortunately, I have no problems accepting Hale's voice for my ME3 Shep. Still fits perfectly.

Question: is the VI Shepard still being discussed? Because I met mine and I could tell instantly that it is NOT my ME2 Shepard! It's the ME3 one. 100% sure about that.
What irritates me, though, is that apparently it's not entirely impossible to have characters look very much as before. Thane looks identical to me without direct comparison. Miranda is very close, too.
So how come that's possible but the import is such a mess?!

#3538
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ThomasDW wrote...



the ME3 face mesh and textures create a distorted cartoon-like appearance - no amount of tweaking and importing will change that, Bimbo Ashley is an example of what Bioware managed to create, it does not look like ME1 and ME2 Ashley and anything that we might do won´t either, the code is broken and serious work would be needed to fix it.

lets forget about it and pretend that this is another game, ME2 was the last installment of the series.




Speak for yourself pal. I like the new Ashley, and I like the new engine.
I agree that the Import bug need to be fixed, (although I fixed my FemShep in about 20 minutes)  but some people here are overreacting . 

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How hard can it be to tell us something? I just want to know by now if it's worth the wait, or if I just should try my best with a watered down version of my FemShep!

Bioware is really getting on my nerves!

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Spanjab wrote...

I think the news websites have let this go, we should mail them and suggest they run another story on the terrible treatment of fans by Bioware. Perhaps if bad press kept appearing they might actually give us a clue as to what they are going to fix and when?


I think that even where this issue has been noticed, it was overtaken by the controversy over the DLC, and now I hear there's a furore over the endings. Few people seem aware that there are those of us who can't even begin the game!

I'm in two minds. Accidentally hearing so many different criticisms of the game, maybe we've dodged a bullet and it's better not have our good experience of ME and ME2 ruined. Alternatively, maybe we, the ones who insist on playing with our unique Shep, maybe we're the intended audience who would actually appreciate some of the things that other players are currently taking exception to? Without the chance to play, and not wanting spoilers, it's impossible to tell!

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@Pheonix
Yeah as i said we could be twin sisters :) ( But i didnt like Kaiden) Hope you are happy with him :) I wont steal him from you!

Nicole thinks it good to have Ashley on her site. Nicole thinks that the xenophobia Ashley is struggling with can be healed. Nicole thinks that if Ashley sees how a Quarian like Tali is behaving and shooting enemy life forms could make Ashley to reconsider her point of view.

Tali on several occasions did save Ash. So Ash is thinking about thanking Tali for that.. But the problem with Ash is that she is so damned influenced by her father and mother..

In Me1 Nicole always had Ashley and Tali with her. In ME 2 mostly also..
I dont know what Nicole will decide in ME 3 but Nicole told me long ago she mostly likes woman Power.. So probably again she will take Ash again despite her Xeno. Nicole thinks Ash has to learn a LOT still and that hatred and not understanding alien lifeforms wont work.
Nicole hopes that Ash will learn that as a team member.

Nicole also hopes to meet Kasumi again in the quest she has to do.

Take care!
I am gooing ofline to get some sleep .

#3542
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Shotgun Diplomacy wrote...

How hard can it be to tell us something? I just want to know by now if it's worth the wait, or if I just should try my best with a watered down version of my FemShep!

Bioware is really getting on my nerves!


Hopefully in a week we should have some news, at least that's what I would expect.

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feliciano2040 wrote...

Shotgun Diplomacy wrote...

How hard can it be to tell us something? I just want to know by now if it's worth the wait, or if I just should try my best with a watered down version of my FemShep!

Bioware is really getting on my nerves!


Hopefully in a week we should have some news, at least that's what I would expect.


So about 2 weeks after the game was released in the states then. :mellow:

#3544
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Holger1405 wrote...
 
I agree that the Import bug need to be fixed, (although I fixed my FemShep in about 20 minutes)  but some people here are overreacting . 


I like my money, you don't? No problem - I will give you a job, you will earn nothing. Not a damn $1. You can ask me of course what is it about, but then I can tell you are overreacting.<_<

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Akeashar wrote...

]Emphyr wrote...

Also the advertisement says that its the first trilogy you can play with your leading character.. Thats untrue also. I still remember teh ADD&D games made by SSI like Champions Of Krynn, Death Knights of Krynn, and Dark Queen of Krynn and more . They all had the option to import the characters from the others.


Going back further, you could do the same with the Ultimas (I through VII part 2), Wizardry, Bard's Tale... heck, any of the CRPGs of the 80s and early 90s pretty much. They even had importing characters between different publishers.

Actually having plot hooks that (mostly) carried over is a bit different from the old gold box games tho. If they ever gave you a love interest it was inevitably in the last game in the series, ie. DK of Krynn, Treasures of the Savage Frontier, so there wasn't anything later for them to effect.


Not to mention the old Quest for Glory series, which I have fond memories of carrying my character from 1 all the way through 5.

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Just got news I got additional free Friday in bonus to the weekend - please guys make it work 'cause i'm craving to finally play it...

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True Heresy wrote...

Should have said this before but I actually tweeted this out. Wasn't impressed to be honest.

"Should I delay my #MassEffect3 play through until the face import bug is patched? How long, roughly? @BioEvilChris @masseffect @CaseyDHudson"

I got this in return

"@TrueHeresy As of now we can't say but we'er investigating the matter. Let us know what you decide!"

http://twitter.com/m...250304654032896 (link as proof, and evidence of how long it took me to say this...)


That "Let us know what you decide!" does not sit well with me. It should have been something like "We're incredibly sorry to have let you down."

Like ConstantCupcake, I'm really noticing the lack of an apology about this.

They've not even managed the infamous dodge which is popular in the UK at the moment: "We're very happy to apologise..." *waits patiently* *drums fingers* *no actual apology forthcoming*

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essefar wrote...

That "Let us know what you decide!" does not sit well with me. It should have been something like "We're incredibly sorry to have let you down."


Yep, this.

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essefar wrote...
That "Let us know what you decide!" does not sit well with me. It should have been something like "We're incredibly sorry to have let you down."

Like ConstantCupcake, I'm really noticing the lack of an apology about this.

They've not even managed the infamous dodge which is popular in the UK at the moment: "We're very happy to apologise..." *waits patiently* *drums fingers* *no actual apology forthcoming*


i totaly agree with u on this

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It's that I live in Europe and not in the States, or I would have gathered an angry mob and handed out pitchforks and torches! So BioWare: information, or we riot! And even that's mild!

Comes to mind that this is the biggest dissappointment ever in my life concerning video games! Never have I refused playing a game, especially one that I have waited for a long time! I'm flabbergasted by this very fact! Damn!