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Issue importing faces into Mass Effect 3 Updated March 21


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#3651
Holger1405

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YobelX wrote...

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I agree that the Import bug need to be fixed, (although I fixed my FemShep in about 20 minutes)  but some people here are overreacting . 


I like my money, you don't? No problem - I will give you a job, you will earn nothing. Not a damn $1. You can ask me of course what is it about, but then I can tell you are overreacting.<_<


Thanks the offer, but I have a pretty good Job...

Your analogy may work for a Game braking Bug, but guess what, it isn't one.
It's inconvenient, very inconvenient when you don't have the skills, or the means, to fix it with the method giving in the first post of this Thread. But the Game itself works just fine, and it is, imho, a awesome Game, just like the two predecessors.

So if I may suggests, get over your frustration, tray the fan made method. It's really easy!
Read carefully, especially  point 9 (first start the ME2(!) CC) in the description is very helpful because you can directly compare your Shepard with the Code Shepard and give the Code Sheppard the missing Complexion, Eye Color, Nose Shape, Hair Style or Brow Color.

After the two Shepards match, go to the ME3 CC and past the code.
A few other suggestions: The ME 3 engine tend to show the Skin paler then the ME1 ore ME2 engines, so give her (or him) a slightly darker skin tone then you have in ME2. The mouth also tend  to become "Negative", (that is clearly shown in the example Pics of the fan made method.) but they are (under Mouth Sharp) other Mouth types, very similar looking, to correct this.  (the two in the middle of the slider.)  
If you don't have the possibility to lode your Code in the ME2 CC focus in the ME3 CC first on Complexion, Hair Style and Nose Shape.
 
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YobelX wrote...

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 Mass Effect 1 & 2's characters look more natural and real. Not sure why exactly.


Yup. ME 3 chars are more... plastic I would say. IMO it has to do something with the bone structure and skin.


Here's what I found: I used the "recreate the original as custom face in ME2, then copy the code" method to exactly replicate my original femshep. When importing the code into ME3, the result was close but slightly... off. Even after working on it for an hour, I can't seem to get rid of the a certain "girly" or "doll-like" look.

One thing I discovered is that the ratio of the height of the ears vs. the upper end of the nose is different - and this can't be changed with any of the options. Also, all the eye shadow options are much too light, not enough contrast!
So there are definitely some changes to the underlying "skull" that makes it impossible to recreate the sort of "elongated" features I created for me original shep - which makes me quite sad :(.

I wish there was an option to use the old ME2 art assets, or at least polygon model, for the face. I don't care that it would look a bit out of place vis a vis the new and "improved" character models, I want my old Shep back!

Modifié par Beanstalk, 14 mars 2012 - 12:48 .


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Awesome work Minolvo - and I'll bet you'll get your ME2 hair back. Here's a hair retrieval project for femsheps, but I'm thinking you could stub the hair from ME2, or find a similar one hidden in ME3.

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Holger1405 wrote...

So if I may suggests, get over your frustration, tray the fan made method. It's really easy!
Read carefully, especially  point 9 (first start the ME2(!) CC) in the description is very helpful because you can directly compare your Shepard with the Code Shepard and give the Code Sheppard the missing Complexion, Eye Color, Nose Shape, Hair Style or Brow Color.


Oh yeah, sure. I paid money. They had 2 years to make the product I paid for. And now... let's see... I can have my character back, if I change only almost every single thing about it. And I have to spend time to do that, as oppose to just click 'import' button. 

Yeah... It's absolutely nothing to be frustrated about. Can I mention, that fan made tools are not working with my character properly? Or is just another thing that I and few other paying customers has no reason to be frustrated about?

Thank you for the advice. Really - none hidden agendas involved. But here's the thing. We have 2012 right? We supposed to have something they promised us in 2007. For money, not for free. So sorry for having demands toward a company that  f*** ed me.

Modifié par YobelX, 14 mars 2012 - 12:45 .


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Rel Fexive wrote...

Since the game can still be played all the way through as is, no, that's not a fair comparison.  Annoying, but not utterly broken. Sure, I'm waiting for a patch too but I'm not letting my sense of entitlement get in the way.


From where I'm sitting, this feature is a major part of the Mass Effect series.  The fact my Shepards (I have two - a male Paragon Soldier and a female Renegade Infiltrator) have been with me since I originally bought the original Mass Effect (which was about 2 weeks after the PC release) means I have a lot of investment in those characters.  I simply cannot play ME3 if my Sheps suddenly look different.  It loses any sense of continuity and, through that, connection to the story, and, in case you haven't noticed, the story is a very big part of the Mass Effect games.  As such, for me, this is more than merely 'annoying' - it's utterly game-breaking.  About the only positive thing that could be said is that I now have the opportunity to do replays of ME1 and ME2 in order to refresh my memory of the details of the story and to tweak things, if I want to, before getting ready to import into ME3 when the face import is fixed, assuming, of course, that actually happens at all.

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jkthunder wrote...

Awesome work Minolvo - and I'll bet you'll get your ME2 hair back. Here's a hair retrieval project for femsheps, but I'm thinking you could stub the hair from ME2, or find a similar one hidden in ME3.


Urgh, this makes me wish I knew how Gibbed worked.

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Bioware needs to get this done fast. I can't play my other chars since they do not have face codes, and the work arounds are crap and are not working.

How do you lose oversight as something as big as this...oh, yeah, I guess they were working on it as the same time as the ending.

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Rel Fexive wrote...
Since the game can still be played all the way through as is, no, that's not a fair comparison.  Annoying, but not utterly broken. Sure, I'm waiting for a patch too but I'm not letting my sense of entitlement get in the way.


"Sense of Entitlement:" Clearly you don't know what this term means. Here's the definition: 
Entitlement - Entitlement or a 'Sense of Entitlement' is an unrealistic, unmerited or inappropriate expectation of favorable living conditions and favorable treatment at the hands of others. 

The people here are absolutely ENTITLED to get what they PAID for. That is not an unrealistic expecation; that's how the market works. BioWare failed to deliver on the promise of being able to "continue YOUR story that began in Mass Effect 1." My custom faces didn't import, and the CC is incapable of making a reasonable facsimile of the character I spent the last 5 years with. Therefore, I cannot continue MY story. Ergo, the game cannot be played as advertised.

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deathbykebab wrote...

All I know is this is 146 pages of the same complaints - we're moving in circles, people.
Yes, okay, I know people have posted solutions to the error and are communicating about questions and answers to one another and whatnot, but unless you're obsessively keeping track of what information is on what page, it all gets kinda lost in the mix and we end up debating with ourselves.
Damned if I know what I wrote last because this page moves constantly forward.

I think it's a little much to tear apart Bioware.
Outrage and disappointment is understandable, the KEEP MY SHEPARD pages are touching to see and I'm sure Bioware finds this touching as well and are working on it as hard as they can but some things I've seen go a little too far. I'm right there with you all - disheartened, outraged, all that jazz but I'm more mellow about it I guess...

Hell, some fans are even proposing Bioware changes the ending for them.
I can't weigh in on that one, I haven't played it - I'm guessing it's despairing and soul crushing, as very well a war should feel like.
But that's an entirely different debate.
I like Bioware, I feel sorry for them being expressed as never caring about the hardcore fans. Mistake's happen but they're working on it...

But that's me..I haven't been scouring every detail about how this went wrong. It has - and it's a damn shame it was overlooked, but there it is. We be patient, we wait, we go on with our lives, our jobs, husbands, wives, children, pets, sex dolls and we wait to finish the fight.
At the end of the day, the game is still the engrossing, heart-in-mouth sci fi story telling, it's just a shame this bug has hindered the enjoyment.

Anyhoo, as you were. I'll no doubt keep checking in to see the 600 page thread tomorrow [/dry sarcasm].



Well, the thread is currently 147 pages long and was started 7 days ago, so I make that an average of 21 pages a day, thus 168 pages by tomorrow, not 600. Of course a sudden influx of staunch Bioware defenders suggesting there's something wrong with reporting a buggy game, or attacking the surprisingly thoughtful and constructive conversation we've been having here while we're waiting for Bioware to sort things out... yeah, that could heat things up.

Modifié par essefar, 14 mars 2012 - 01:14 .


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Cootie wrote...

jkthunder wrote...

Awesome work Minolvo - and I'll bet you'll get your ME2 hair back. Here's a hair retrieval project for femsheps, but I'm thinking you could stub the hair from ME2, or find a similar one hidden in ME3.


Urgh, this makes me wish I knew how Gibbed worked.


This is a pretty good tutorial Cootie. Gives you all the basics, and as questions come up, other knowleadgable folks at the Gibbed thread, or any of the other mod threads (tons of them in the ME2 forums. Good place to learn), will help you out. It's one of those things you just learn by doing if you have the motivation.

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Mingolo wrote...

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Regardless, the fact that the hair mesh in addition to everything else is still in the game, tells me it should be possibe for the importer to be fixed pretty well.


Hey, great detective work!

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So the thread was created 7 days ago.....then and update 4 days ago which said nothing new because we new what was wrong.

An then they wonder why the MODs get attacked they are never around to ease the situation and just ignore the real problems

Come on Chris im sure you can give insight by now

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Arrrgh. I just spent ages recreating my male Shep in ME2 (Xbox 360). I got him pretty much spot on. I then wrote the code down (well, took a photo of my TV). Started ME3, put the code in. The facial structure was mostly okay except the eyes which seem to not be there but I found some similar ones, not perfect but okay. The nose was a bit off. I can accept all that except for the fact they seem to have removed ginger hair. Yes, I'm ginger. Yes, I feel discriminated against. They have fake red hair and brown but the ginger colour seems to have been scrapped!

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We will have justice, we must simply remain vigilant...

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actually I found some logic (a little bit a wtf, but still it make sense)
My Shepard had/has one the preset faces with a little changes. So I suggest because of the years and many fights in ME3 he looks like older and with more muscles and his face cannot be the same as in ME1/2. I was able to make his face as much as possible like my original, but he still looks like alien :D

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GreyM0user wrote...

Rel Fexive wrote...
Since the game can still be played all the way through as is, no, that's not a fair comparison.  Annoying, but not utterly broken. Sure, I'm waiting for a patch too but I'm not letting my sense of entitlement get in the way.


"Sense of Entitlement:" Clearly you don't know what this term means. Here's the definition: 
Entitlement - Entitlement or a 'Sense of Entitlement' is an unrealistic, unmerited or inappropriate expectation of favorable living conditions and favorable treatment at the hands of others. 

The people here are absolutely ENTITLED to get what they PAID for. That is not an unrealistic expecation; that's how the market works. BioWare failed to deliver on the promise of being able to "continue YOUR story that began in Mass Effect 1." My custom faces didn't import, and the CC is incapable of making a reasonable facsimile of the character I spent the last 5 years with. Therefore, I cannot continue MY story. Ergo, the game cannot be played as advertised.


Agreed. And there was an article in Forbes today on this very subject :)

Modifié par essefar, 14 mars 2012 - 01:19 .


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essefar wrote...
Agreed. And there was an article in Forbes today on this very subject :)


I just saw a facebook poll about what is our favorite weapon in ME3.... I was calm till now... but this is some kind of joke....
I don't know what is my favorite weapon, because I cannot play the game. This is not a Mario Bros or tetris, this is epic game ruined by some lazy QA, project manager or developer...
And if this all is about more money for the DLC + fix....

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My maleShep may not be the best looking guy in the galaxy, but I wouldn't play without him... waiting and hoping for a patch everyday that pass since the release.

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Clarian wrote...

For what it's worth, I put this on twitter:

twitter.com/#!/Clarian/status/179717257855901696

I noticed that @masseffect sent a couple people who were asking about the "face import error" to this thread.  It would be incorrect for them to direct me here, since what they've said is:  

Chris Priestly wrote...
We have determined that faces importing incorrectly is an error with how codes were detected when transferred from Mass Effect 1 into Mass Effect 2 and then on into Mass Effect 3 or importing a Mass Effect 2 saved game with New Game +.


...but I did neither of those, my save is an ME2 created face, first playthrough.


Be interesting to see what they say. I think your Shep is the one I'm most looking forward to seeing restored, after my own of course. She's really quite special - and the import bug is so dramatic :|

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jkthunder wrote...

Awesome work Minolvo - and I'll bet you'll get your ME2 hair back. Here's a hair retrieval project for femsheps, but I'm thinking you could stub the hair from ME2, or find a similar one hidden in ME3.


Thanks! You just saved me a lot of work! :)

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If you keep bombarding them with emails, I can only see that slowing everything down because now, on top of fixing the issue, you've just wasted their time by having them read multitudes of emails about an issue that they already know about.


How would it slow anything down? You have two different departments handling two different tasks. Only thing that may change is that the project lead on the fix might actually give a damn if the regional manager mentions something about getting a huge influx of complaints in customer support at the next meeting.

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 I can never truly recreate Styli Shepard without the ginger hair option. I am truly gutted.

RIP Styli Shepard

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essefar wrote...
Be interesting to see what they say. I think your Shep is the one I'm most looking forward to seeing restored, after my own of course. She's really quite special - and the import bug is so dramatic :|


Thanks. :) I saw two people before my tweet, and two people after, who got responses to go to this thread about the face import bug. But no response to mine.  If I had a tinfoil hat on, I'd say it's because they know that my issue wouldn't be fixed with the posted workaround...

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Cootie wrote...

jkthunder wrote...

Awesome work Minolvo - and I'll bet you'll get your ME2 hair back. Here's a hair retrieval project for femsheps, but I'm thinking you could stub the hair from ME2, or find a similar one hidden in ME3.


Urgh, this makes me wish I knew how Gibbed worked.



Thunder's right, this is the first time I'v even heard of gibbed. But anyway, what do you mean by "stub the hair from ME2" thunder? I'm using the Xbox version, so I can only mod what can be done inside gibbed to the save files, without accessing any of he game directories.

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Clarian wrote...

essefar wrote...
Be interesting to see what they say. I think your Shep is the one I'm most looking forward to seeing restored, after my own of course. She's really quite special - and the import bug is so dramatic :|


Thanks. :) I saw two people before my tweet, and two people after, who got responses to go to this thread about the face import bug. But no response to mine.  If I had a tinfoil hat on, I'd say it's because they know that my issue wouldn't be fixed with the posted workaround...


I've mentioned it a few times in tweets and they've never directly acknowledged the issue back to me.