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Issue importing faces into Mass Effect 3 Updated March 21


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Clarian

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RealStyli wrote...
 I can never truly recreate Styli Shepard without the ginger hair option. I am truly gutted.


Gibbed didn't help me with the bone structure, but the one thing it does to perfection is colors.  If your only concern is the hair color, I think you could fix it with that...though it would take the hassle of learning how to use it, if you haven't already, and all that.

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Clarian wrote...

RealStyli wrote...
 I can never truly recreate Styli Shepard without the ginger hair option. I am truly gutted.


Gibbed didn't help me with the bone structure, but the one thing it does to perfection is colors.  If your only concern is the hair color, I think you could fix it with that...though it would take the hassle of learning how to use it, if you haven't already, and all that.


That won't work on the Xbox 360 version though, or will it? It is my only concern and it's a big one. He looks completely different - as anyone with ginger hair will tell you, it's not the same as red or auburn. I can't believe they took it out.

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Just got home and still no patch and no update WTF i thought they said we would get regular updates, come'on CRIS its time for an update.

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RealStyli wrote...
That won't work on the Xbox 360 version though, or will it?


I think I've seen people in this thread say it's do-able on 360. It seems to involve transferring your save from Xbox to a thumb drive and then from there to your computer, etc.  (I'm on PC myself, so I've never done it that way.)

But yeah, taking out options that were there in a previous game...just not good.

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RealStyli wrote...

Clarian wrote...

RealStyli wrote...
 I can never truly recreate Styli Shepard without the ginger hair option. I am truly gutted.


Gibbed didn't help me with the bone structure, but the one thing it does to perfection is colors.  If your only concern is the hair color, I think you could fix it with that...though it would take the hassle of learning how to use it, if you haven't already, and all that.


That won't work on the Xbox 360 version though, or will it? It is my only concern and it's a big one. He looks completely different - as anyone with ginger hair will tell you, it's not the same as red or auburn. I can't believe they took it out.


It will, look at my post two pages back. You just have to use this save editor for ME2: http://social.biowar...m/project/4373/ . The one Phoenix provided won't work for the Xbox.

Modifié par Mingolo, 14 mars 2012 - 02:10 .


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RealStyli wrote...

 I can never truly recreate Styli Shepard without the ginger hair option. I am truly gutted.

RIP Styli Shepard

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Use Gibbed.
This shows you how to find the color of your hair in the ME2 save.

http://www.masseffec....com/index.php?
show=tutorials&tutorial=saveEdit#06

Just copy them to the same variable in the ME3 Save. 

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Please help on ME2 face, cant get these Shepard imported into ME3 and ME2 editor wont work for me. These are the Shepard I need help with

1)http://social.biowar...9832/189545.jpg

2)http://social.biowar...9832/189546.jpg

3)http://social.biowar...9832/189547.jpg

4)http://social.biowar...9832/189548.jpg

If you can help let me know and I add my save files for these Shepards too, if needed, TY?

Modifié par droid105, 14 mars 2012 - 02:28 .


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FeministShep wrote...

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Games are like magic. It's an illusion. We identify with our Shepards because we feel we created them but in reality everyone's Shepard is basically the same (moral differences asside). It's the same voice actress or actor with a limited amount of lines and prerendered cut scenes. What makes us forget this is the fact they are our creation. We forget this is just a dialogue branching fictional game and it seems real for a second. But when the faces don't match it takes us out of the illusion. We realize everytime we see that wrong nose that our Shepard really isn't that unique. In fact we didn't even really create him or her because everything was already predesigned. The face importing issue just isn't aesthetics. It's a part of the suspension of disbelief that is required in order to feel like the game is real.


Been meaning to say I think you hit the nail on the head here. I don't think there's any particularly sophisticated tech behind the 'evolution' of our Shep, just a large lookup table, which is pretty old hat as AI goes. That we'd need the device of our individually created face to help create the illusion of uniqueness... that makes sense to me. It explains clearly why the altered face is such a game-breaker, even for those who can import and do have accurate decision history.

I intend to have a look at Binary Domain at some point, although shooters aren't really my thing, to see what the AI they've trailered controlling the team relationships is actually like. Some day soon we're going to combine the offloading of our lives into the Cloud, the immersive qualities you can see foreshadowed in Quantic Dream's Kara tech demo, some true evolutionary algorithms, some futuristic materials technology and a generation of toddlers who're already adept with kinetic interfaces... and get... ???
/diversion

Modifié par essefar, 14 mars 2012 - 02:34 .


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I am sorry guys but this is really unacceptable and disappointing. I have been waiting patiently to play the game for over a week now. The idea of the game is to bring your charterer over from game to game and I am unable to do that. No news of any patch, no nothing. Instead, there is talks about DLC and some App that came out. I have always said nothing but good things about Bioware. Almost to the point that you were the new SquareSOFT, but EA once more has blacked what it touches. It really is sad to return a game that I have been waiting to play. I could not wait to play with my own Shepard and finish this game. I do not care how the ending is, that is what it is but the game should have had one of the most important features to start with. I keep getting told, oh check for future updates. It is only just a game, but it was still $60 of pay for people. I am very disappointed in you guys. I really hope we get some sort of message about an update coming soon by tomorrow, if not I will probably just bring the game back and "will" buy it at a future date. Without a doubt, one of the biggest let downs for a video game release this year.

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RealStyli wrote...

Clarian wrote...

RealStyli wrote...
 I can never truly recreate Styli Shepard without the ginger hair option. I am truly gutted.


Gibbed didn't help me with the bone structure, but the one thing it does to perfection is colors.  If your only concern is the hair color, I think you could fix it with that...though it would take the hassle of learning how to use it, if you haven't already, and all that.


That won't work on the Xbox 360 version though, or will it? It is my only concern and it's a big one. He looks completely different - as anyone with ginger hair will tell you, it's not the same as red or auburn. I can't believe they took it out.


This is the way to get your Xbox saves to the PC and into Gibbed. Works for ME2 and ME3 
http://social.biowar...8/index/2277020

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PlagueDoctor wrote...

What's with the idiot above saying we knew about it from the demo? You couldn't import from the demo.


Tip for you Clown Shoes.........Before you go calling anyone an idiot, make sure you educate yourself about the claim before calling said poster an idiot.

That way you don't come off looking so uninformed on the topic but feel ok to call the person who clearly knows more then you an idiot. :bandit:

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Pixelmator skills are off the charts

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PlagueDoctor wrote...

What's with the idiot above saying we knew about it from the demo? You couldn't import from the demo.


The potential of a face importation issue was noted by many shortly after the release of the demo. In response to these concerns one of the developers created a post stating randomly that playing your Shepherd with a new character was actually a good thing. There were a ton of responses to that quote, wondering why exactly the developer was saying something like that. I think people smelled a rat and knew something was up. 

And the idea that they didn't know about this prior to the demo is wrong, pure and simple. The hours of testing could not have missed something like this. This is just common sense.

And why did you say "we"? Did you design the game? Cause if so, could you send me 60 bucks until you fix your mistake.

Modifié par FeministShep, 14 mars 2012 - 03:02 .


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SirCrypt wrote...
.... Instead, there is talks about DLC and some App that came out.


Yea, paying more money for a missing piece of the original game is laughable to me at this point. Fix your game before trying to sell me something you cut out of ME3 to make more money. Better yet, why don't you make correct facial importation a downloadable item. Then would at least be selling your audience something that they actually wanted.


Selling downloadable content so close to launch is just tacky anyways.

Modifié par FeministShep, 14 mars 2012 - 03:18 .


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Emphyr wrote...

Well i started playing.... I could not resist not dooing so. I started playing with a reconstructed femshep that is the most likely to be Nicole.

I just had a phonecall with Nicole Shepard and she explained to me why her appearence did change so much. She Told me that with all the cash she got from defeating ME2 she had a new haircut and she said she liked it. She also told she was having a minor problem with 1 leg. She said because she got shot in the leg and was having problems with running fast she decided to have it Fixed. So she went to the private hospital to get her leg fixed but instead of dooing that they gave her a NOSE job!! Man she was mad! But later on she saw some old movies from Michael Jackson and she was thinking.. hey it could have been worse ...

Later on she discovered that the private Clinic was owned by Conrad Verner . Nicole learned that Conrad has accidently got acces to the bank account of the Volar.

Nicole is not pleased at all with her new face.. But she is very happy she still has her (.)(.) not corrected.

Nicole also told me she has a new mission now and she dont goe  to often looking in mirrors anymore.
She also promised that if she will meet Conrad again she will shoot him 5 times in his foot.

Nicole just finished the Mars mission and is at the Citadel right now and she thinks her new face is a minor problem compared to Ash. She wants Ash to recover,

Nicole hopes that while beeing on the missions she will find a better Hospital to get her facial structure bones and nose restored  to how it was. She also hopes to find a Bioware barber to get her hair back in the old fashioned way she was used to.

The main thing is.. Nicole is upset with her new look and she disagree's a lot.. But she has a mission to forfill and that is what she is gooing for now.

Take Care
Emphyrio





This was f**king awesome. It's good to have had a laugh in the midst of this pathetic fiasco of Bioware's doing!!

Come on people, 32 more pages of posts til Page 180 and we might get to hear from Chris again!! <_<

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FeministShep wrote...

And the idea that they didn't know about this prior to the demo is wrong, pure and simple. The hours of testing could not have missed something like this. This is just common sense.


Uh, won't the problem only come up if your previous Shepard has the features that were removed in ME3? o.O

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essefar wrote...
. Of course a sudden influx of staunch Bioware defenders suggesting there's something wrong with reporting a buggy game, or attacking the surprisingly thoughtful and constructive conversation...


Yea, a lil fishy if you ask me. A common strategy when receiving a bunch of negative press like this is to generate fake comments to counter the negative ones. Don't know if that's been going on here though.

Modifié par FeministShep, 14 mars 2012 - 03:15 .


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Which editor(s) should I be using if I'm on an Xbox? I can't remember the other one but I have Gibbed, but that's just for the hair or whatever isn't it?

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UntalkativeBunny wrote...

Uh, won't the problem only come up if your previous Shepard has the features that were removed in ME3? o.O


If you imported your face from ME into ME2 and didn't edit the features (and seriously, why would you do that) then you are likely going to run into this issue.

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Alchemist4 wrote...

deathbykebab wrote...

But that's me..


I wish this thought came to your head first before you posted the rest of your comment. <_<

Not being able to play with our ME1 Shep is a big deal.


The thought was always there, I am simply reaffirming that for those that may want to react angrilly with snide remarks or what have you.
I know all too well it is a big deal, I'm right there with all of you. I merely said that, while a level of outrage towards Bioware is just, some of the things fans are doing is a little baffling to me.

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essefar wrote...

deathbykebab wrote...

All I know is this is 146 pages of the same complaints - we're moving in circles, people.
Yes, okay, I know people have posted solutions to the error and are communicating about questions and answers to one another and whatnot, but unless you're obsessively keeping track of what information is on what page, it all gets kinda lost in the mix and we end up debating with ourselves.
Damned if I know what I wrote last because this page moves constantly forward.

I think it's a little much to tear apart Bioware.
Outrage and disappointment is understandable, the KEEP MY SHEPARD pages are touching to see and I'm sure Bioware finds this touching as well and are working on it as hard as they can but some things I've seen go a little too far. I'm right there with you all - disheartened, outraged, all that jazz but I'm more mellow about it I guess...

Hell, some fans are even proposing Bioware changes the ending for them.
I can't weigh in on that one, I haven't played it - I'm guessing it's despairing and soul crushing, as very well a war should feel like.
But that's an entirely different debate.
I like Bioware, I feel sorry for them being expressed as never caring about the hardcore fans. Mistake's happen but they're working on it...

But that's me..I haven't been scouring every detail about how this went wrong. It has - and it's a damn shame it was overlooked, but there it is. We be patient, we wait, we go on with our lives, our jobs, husbands, wives, children, pets, sex dolls and we wait to finish the fight.
At the end of the day, the game is still the engrossing, heart-in-mouth sci fi story telling, it's just a shame this bug has hindered the enjoyment.

Anyhoo, as you were. I'll no doubt keep checking in to see the 600 page thread tomorrow [/dry sarcasm].



Well, the thread is currently 147 pages long and was started 7 days ago, so I make that an average of 21 pages a day, thus 168 pages by tomorrow, not 600. Of course a sudden influx of staunch Bioware defenders suggesting there's something wrong with reporting a buggy game, or attacking the surprisingly thoughtful and constructive conversation we've been having here while we're waiting for Bioware to sort things out... yeah, that could heat things up.


The 600 pages was a good natured jab at the amount of how quick this topic is building, nothing more and certainly not a cruel jab at the expense of the fans here - hence the [/dry sarcasm] gag.
Hell, I'm feeling just as disappointed, outraged, betrayed - and confused - as to why something this big - such a crucial element to the franchise and one that is so heavily advertised, is messed up and why Bioware isn't communicating moreso.
But I just don't agree with vowing to stay away from Bioware or wishing that they fail with future products.
I guess I'm hanging onto that glimmer of hope that I mentioned a few pages back.

Modifié par deathbykebab, 14 mars 2012 - 04:14 .


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I'm glad that EA Support letter came out and thanks to the poster who put it on this thread.

It further validates what I said that Bioware knew all along of the issue and now will you all start to see that Bioware indeed don't give a rat's **** about this (when was the last time you saw anyone else from Bioware outside of the two Chris Priestly appearances in this thread to reassure us, apologize or keep us in the loop)? No, this is done and dusted people. No fix coming. The Character Creator works as they intended so Congrats Bioware, you have not only made a mockery of this final game in the trilogy with the numerous bugs and crap ending (as I am told by many) but also have burned many bridges. Hope for your sake Bioware you didn't need those bridges to stay viable!! Can't say I would be upset to see you fail now.

And with this in mind, what I want from Bioware now is an admission they will not be fixing this so I can move on and never buy anything Bioware again from this point on (Which kills me as I want Generals 2 but hey, Bioware would probably make a mess of that game too, perhaps making one faction Day one DLC while they are at it)!! Sadly Bioware are a pack of cowards.

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X2three wrote...

I'm glad that EA Support letter came out and thanks to the poster who put it on this thread.

It further validates what I said that Bioware knew all along of the issue and now will you all start to see that Bioware indeed don't give a rat's **** about this (when was the last time you saw anyone else from Bioware outside of the two Chris Priestly appearances in this thread to reassure us, apologize or keep us in the loop)? No, this is done and dusted people. No fix coming. The Character Creator works as they intended so Congrats Bioware, you have not only made a mockery of this final game in the trilogy with the numerous bugs and crap ending (as I am told by many) but also have burned many bridges. Hope for your sake Bioware you didn't need those bridges to stay viable!! Can't say I would be upset to see you fail now.

And with this in mind, what I want from Bioware now is an admission they will not be fixing this so I can move on and never buy anything Bioware again from this point on (Which kills me as I want Generals 2 but hey, Bioware would probably make a mess of that game too, perhaps making one faction Day one DLC while they are at it)!! Sadly Bioware are a pack of cowards.


Can you link me to where there is no fix coming at all?

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Anyone have a Shepard that looks similar to mine?

http://img.photobuck...23-52-56-60.jpg

I cant seem to get my Shep to look anywhere near what he used to look like. His hair color is gone and many of his facial features are as well. Thank you for any help.

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X2three wrote...

I'm glad that EA Support letter came out and thanks to the poster who put it on this thread.

It further validates what I said that Bioware knew all along of the issue and now will you all start to see that Bioware indeed don't give a rat's **** about this (when was the last time you saw anyone else from Bioware outside of the two Chris Priestly appearances in this thread to reassure us, apologize or keep us in the loop)? No, this is done and dusted people. No fix coming. The Character Creator works as they intended so Congrats Bioware, you have not only made a mockery of this final game in the trilogy with the numerous bugs and crap ending (as I am told by many) but also have burned many bridges. Hope for your sake Bioware you didn't need those bridges to stay viable!! Can't say I would be upset to see you fail now.

And with this in mind, what I want from Bioware now is an admission they will not be fixing this so I can move on and never buy anything Bioware again from this point on (Which kills me as I want Generals 2 but hey, Bioware would probably make a mess of that game too, perhaps making one faction Day one DLC while they are at it)!! Sadly Bioware are a pack of cowards.


Gotta say, I'm really am starting to feel the same way. I have a few friends that finished it and enjoyed the ending, but neither of them will hint at what happens (as much as I hate unintended spoilers, I hate my questions being dodged). 

That tangent aside, I wish Bioware would just pull the damn trigger. Tell us they are fixing it so it functions like ME2's import did, or tell us it isn't possible. I just want to get the rest of the disappointment over with.