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[Darthsarna]

Cootie wrote...

Besides, they didn't acknowledge the face bug, but gave a general "We're working on a patch" statement which could mean anything.
They might even give Shepards the option of holstering their weapon instead of fixing the massive import bug.

I thought they removed that because it really doesnt have a place in the game anymore:innocent:

[MrNiceguy976]

Priestly is not giving us a floor to stand on- he basically just said "Hey we're working on it guys".

Well let me quote Francis from Left 4 Dead:

"I hate lawyers. When are they gonna get done practicing law?"

You can "work on" something forever, like "practicing" law or medicine- so let's get a deadline here? Please? Or is it that the only deadlines you honor is the release date because then you get money?

Modifié par MrNiceguy976, 15 mars 2012 - 07:47 .

[Cootie]

Darthsarna wrote...

Cootie wrote...

Besides, they didn't acknowledge the face bug, but gave a general "We're working on a patch" statement which could mean anything.
They might even give Shepards the option of holstering their weapon instead of fixing the massive import bug.

I thought they removed that because it really doesnt have a place in the game anymore:innocent:

I'unno. I haven't even installed the thing yet. >.>
Just making the point that they might be working on something completely different, and we shouldn't get our hopes up.

[Pheonix52gx]

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Pheonix52gx wrote...

Ragke wrote...
That post by Chris is so subtly haughty. I have a feeling he is a machine; he has no people-skills. "Hey look dumb-people. Patches are hard. It takes a million steps to make a patch. I will bullet-point them for you since you're so stupid kthx." That's how I felt when I was reading that post.

I don't think he was going for that impression but I understand where you're coming from. It does provide a reason as to why these things are taking so long for those unaware.

Unfortunately, when you've worked QA for a first party console developer, that information doesn't provide any answers. But on the other hand, much more information (such as an ETA) would mean they'd have to be accountable for that information (such as sticking to that ETA) and that could backfire on them. I don't like Bioware's "we'll let you know when it's ready" approach, but I can understand their reasoning. Also it was nice to know they're still active and not just ignoring the forums altogether.

I'm gonna have to disagree with your last statement.  Giving an ETA wouldn't backfire on them if they premised it with a simple, "well we make no guarantees but we can reasonbly see it being done in X amount of time."  It's the same argument an employee would give his employer.  Plus, they know their teams, the speed at which they work, the nature of difficulty in the type of bugs they face currently/have in the past. 

I mean really the whole point is to just give some kind of frame of reference in terms of time so that the person expecting completion has some sense of assurance rather than no assurance.

Maybe I didn't phrase myself correctly. I totally agree with you. Assuming they made an accurate ETA, based on the circumstances you describe and with the premise you point out, you and I would most likely deal with it if that ETA wasn't met. But I'll bet you, like me, know that not everyone perceives an ETA as flexible and that there will always be a group raging about how it was missed. That's what I think Bioware try to avoid by shipping things as they are rather than throwing ideas and maybes out for feedback as some other developers do.

As I said, I don't like it; I want more information myself. Thank you for calling me out on this though.

Alchera7 wrote...

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Alchera7 wrote...
I'll make another post soon including before and after pictures, as soon as I can figure out how to take screenshots while in-game.

Print Screen button?

I've tried that but when I look in the screenshots folder nothing is there. And when I paste into Paint, all I get is a black screen.

 
You need to set the screen to "Windowed (No Border)" in graphics options in order to use the Print Screen key for screenshots. At least, I had to. It is possible to bind it without doing this, but I am unware as to how without changing the Coelesced file.

Modifié par Pheonix52gx, 15 mars 2012 - 08:03 .

[RealStyli]

Cootie wrote...

Darthsarna wrote...

Cootie wrote...

Besides, they didn't acknowledge the face bug, but gave a general "We're working on a patch" statement which could mean anything.
They might even give Shepards the option of holstering their weapon instead of fixing the massive import bug.

I thought they removed that because it really doesnt have a place in the game anymore:innocent:

I'unno. I haven't even installed the thing yet. >.>
Just making the point that they might be working on something completely different, and we shouldn't get our hopes up.

They removed the holstering because they ran out of memory for the animation on consoles (Source: Xbox World's Podcast: Mass Effect 3 Special)

[JBauer24Tactics]

So another weekend coming up and still no update?

[MrNiceguy976]

JBauer24Tactics wrote...

So another weekend coming up and still no update?

Yup. Go back to playing Skyrim or something

[zacgodbold]

MrNiceguy976 wrote...

JBauer24Tactics wrote...

So another weekend coming up and still no update?

Yup. Go back to playing Skyrim or something

That's what I'm doing. Skyrim and ME3 multiplayer.

[Tigercml]

We should all protest outside the Bioware and EA headquarters. Hold up signs that say things like "She's My Commander Shepard And I Want Her Now"

We can call it Occupy Bioware. We could start a revolution.

[JBauer24Tactics]

Tigercml wrote...

We should all protest outside the Bioware and EA headquarters. Hold up signs that say things like "She's My Commander Shepard And I Want Her Now"

We can call it Occupy Bioware. We could start a revolution.

Or hold up signs saying "Bioware don't Biocare"

[ThinkIntegral]

Pheonix52gx wrote...

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Pheonix52gx wrote...

Ragke wrote...
That post by Chris is so subtly haughty. I have a feeling he is a machine; he has no people-skills. "Hey look dumb-people. Patches are hard. It takes a million steps to make a patch. I will bullet-point them for you since you're so stupid kthx." That's how I felt when I was reading that post.

I don't think he was going for that impression but I understand where you're coming from. It does provide a reason as to why these things are taking so long for those unaware.

Unfortunately, when you've worked QA for a first party console developer, that information doesn't provide any answers. But on the other hand, much more information (such as an ETA) would mean they'd have to be accountable for that information (such as sticking to that ETA) and that could backfire on them. I don't like Bioware's "we'll let you know when it's ready" approach, but I can understand their reasoning. Also it was nice to know they're still active and not just ignoring the forums altogether.

I'm gonna have to disagree with your last statement.  Giving an ETA wouldn't backfire on them if they premised it with a simple, "well we make no guarantees but we can reasonbly see it being done in X amount of time."  It's the same argument an employee would give his employer.  Plus, they know their teams, the speed at which they work, the nature of difficulty in the type of bugs they face currently/have in the past. 

I mean really the whole point is to just give some kind of frame of reference in terms of time so that the person expecting completion has some sense of assurance rather than no assurance.

Maybe I didn't phrase myself correctly. I totally agree with you. Assuming they made an accurate ETA, based on the circumstances you describe and with the premise you point out, you and I would most likely deal with it if that ETA wasn't met. But I'll bet you, like me, know that not everyone perceives an ETA as flexible and that there will always be a group raging about how it was missed. That's what I think Bioware try to avoid by shipping things as they are rather than throwing ideas and maybes out for feedback as some other developers do.

As I said, I don't like it; I want more information myself. Thank you for calling me out on this though.

Well the ETA is flexible if they make it known that it's subject to that. Hence, "we can't make any guarantees."  Fearing that raging if it were missed is not a good reason to not give any kind of ETA.  There will always be someone that isn't happy, but the object is to assure the majority of consumers and to provide a level of reasonable certainty.

Nevertheless, I see your point.

[Tigercml]

JBauer24Tactics wrote...

Tigercml wrote...

We should all protest outside the Bioware and EA headquarters. Hold up signs that say things like "She's My Commander Shepard And I Want Her Now"

We can call it Occupy Bioware. We could start a revolution.

Or hold up signs saying "Bioware don't Biocare"

Thats a good one. How about this one.

"Keep Your Corporate Hands Off My Commander Shepard"

[ThinkIntegral]

Tigercml wrote...

We should all protest outside the Bioware and EA headquarters. Hold up signs that say things like "She's My Commander Shepard And I Want Her Now"

We can call it Occupy Bioware. We could start a revolution.

I was thinking about this at one point.  Though not be as dirty as the Occupy people, i.e. just go during business hours, boo the employees as they come and go, then go home at the end of the work day shower, sleep, etc.

[sixthnewkid]

I really just want to play the game... if it goes on for too long i may just loose interest. I still cant believe that they are not taking this serious. Two small posts by some "community manager" who has about as much people skills as a rock is unacceptable. Its shocking that a company such as bioware, who I thought was at the top of their game is reduced to a product that is broken for people who have supported the series from the beginning. They clearly see that this thread has 10's of thousands of views, there are web sites being created to bring awareness as well has how-to tutorials to fix this thing as long as you have a degree in computer science.

We need an official response on what they plan to do or an apology, and we can all move on. Or hire a "Community Manager" that helps us understand whats going on better. The one they have now seems to be the opposite of who you would hire... its mind boggling whats going on over at bioware, truly unbelievable.

[CaptainOrgia]

JBauer24Tactics wrote...

Tigercml wrote...

We should all protest outside the Bioware and EA headquarters. Hold up signs that say things like "She's My Commander Shepard And I Want Her Now"

We can call it Occupy Bioware. We could start a revolution.

Or hold up signs saying "Bioware don't Biocare"

lol, let's get #BiowareDontBiocare trending on Twitter

[Tarlyn03]

oke an idea
Go to Bioware and EA, lay siege to the buildings (building trebuchet's, rams and onagers) We keep the siege of the headquarters and hope that their cafeteria runs out of food before we do. Whaddya say

[ThinkIntegral]

Tarlyn03 wrote...

oke an idea
Go to Bioware and EA, lay siege to the buildings (building trebuchet's, rams and onagers) We keep the siege of the headquarters and hope that their cafeteria runs out of food before we do. Whaddya say

Now you're talking. 

[ceforman]

Maybe have everybody print out their Shep's face and wear it as a mask.

[Spruso]

Cootie wrote...

Besides, they didn't acknowledge the face bug, but gave a general "We're working on a patch" statement which could mean anything.
They might even give Shepards the option of holstering their weapon instead of fixing the massive import bug.

That's what I was thinking. He talks about general Patch processing (which everyone a little bit interested in that matter would have already guessed). But not a single word about the face bug. Not even a "blablabla, patching..blablabla...for example the face bug we know you are waiting to get fixed...blabla...bear with us...blabla".

I still don't play till its fixed, but I still fear, that all they will do, is generate a pseudo Facecode (like Phoenix demonstrated), to get rid of the error message. But I think, they'll write something like "STOP.****ING.AND.GIVE.US.MORE.OF.YOUR.MONEY".

[Commander Raiden]

So whats the status quo, how many here are willing to hold back inserting the DVD into their console till the patch arrives? What chances the patch will come before March 31st??? Would anyone consider two-playthrough's, one where you play with default shepherd for the time being and everyone is alive, and then the 2nd playthrough with your patched imported character??

[DARKWUN]

Dimensio wrote...

ceforman wrote...

Dimensio wrote...

ceforman wrote...

This has got to be massively embarrassing for BioWare.  I would love to be a fly on the wall when they have the QA discussion about how this got missed.

As a fly, you would possess significantly reduced intelligence and a drastically reduced lifespan than you currently experience.  You would lack the cognitive ability to comprehend any such discussion, thus such a physical location would serve no purpose for you.

No I would not.  I would be a fly with human-level intelligence, cognitive abilities, and lifespan.  It is my fantasy so I get to do it how I want.  Also I would be able to speak in a human voice, so I would find out who is in charge of deciding which bugs to fix first, and I would fly directly into his ear canal and shout, "HEEEEEEY!  FIX THE FACE IMPORT FIIIIIIRST!"  And I would do it over and over again until it nearly drove him insane and he finally told the team to fix it just to shut me up.

Then I would go over to Valve and fly into Gabe Newell's ear canal and shout, "HEEEEEEY!  FINISH HALF-LIFE THREEEEEE!"

See this is how my mind deteriorates when it's not being occupied by the game I really want to play.

You may wish to consult a psychologist.

Your belief that a fly possess physiological characteristics sufficient to generate audible human speech, disregarding cognitive requirements, suggests that you may also wish to consult an entomologist. 

LOL Dimensio, you are either an Aspie, a prig or severely taking deadpan humour to new levels. Or an AI without EDI's humour capabilities

[thelonelycyclist]

Hello it isn't the only problem with the game,there are many bugs and a really terrible ending that need sorting.

[DARKWUN]

ceforman wrote...

Maybe have everybody print out their Shep's face and wear it as a mask.

I see a sequel for V for Vendetta on the cards...
We'll take to the streets  and usurp our the foul oppressors of our human will... or just break sh!t up. Whatever.

[Samsta9009]

DARKWUN wrote...

ceforman wrote...

Maybe have everybody print out their Shep's face and wear it as a mask.

I see a sequel for V for Vendetta on the cards...
We'll take to the streets  and usurp our the foul oppressors of our human will... or just break sh!t up. Whatever.

UUUUHH OOOHHH, threatening employees! WE'RE GONNA GET BANNED, it's so scary :_:

[mybudgee]

Be realistic. North Americans are too fat and lazy to start a real revolution....
edit: I e-mailed EA and they answered with a bunch of stuff about cloud, and how I can still 'recreate my Shepard' from scratch. I was stunned, and had to let loose. I replied with an e-mail saying I have never mentioned or used cloud, and how I am not going to re-create my Shep from scratch, I want the option to IMPORT my Shep, as promised by the Devs since the announcment of ME2, and how I was sickened by the impersonal stock answers I was recieving. I am serious when I say that Bioware and EA are now on my Wal-Mart list (boycotted)

Modifié par mybudgee, 15 mars 2012 - 10:28 .