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[essefar]

Just a quick update that I'm not getting answers from a quick and superficial internet search so I'll try and take some time next week to do some proper research, read the terms of sale, licence conditions and possibly-hopefully-relevant laws, and also figure out what the relevant organisational bodies are and chase up an official answer from them. If no-one else gets around to it first. What fun! I'll report back - I have no problem with getting an eggy face in a good cause - but it might take some time.

In the meantime, I'm sticking with my matter-of-fact approach. It's pretty clear what the UK consumer protection laws on goods and services are trying to achieve. If there is wriggle room for software, I don't suppose it's because our law-makers got together and decided it was exempt - do correct me i'm wrong! - but rather that software is a new-ish technology product presented in a novel form (the licence) and that the law hasn't caught up yet. Is any software company really going to draw attention to that by trying to defend it? 'Yeah, tough, we're allowed to distribute these faulty products because we're not covered by the same consumer protection laws as the other goods and services in your country' seems to me a public relations disaster as well as a surefire way to fast-track new legislation.

Modifié par essefar, 15 mars 2012 - 11:27 .

[Mole267]

I've noticed ME3's face customizing system is different from that of ME1 and 2. There are lots of options and features missing from it in ME3. Can't adjust nose width/depth, brow depth, there's only ONE set of eyebrows, and cheek options are also very limited. Eye color options are also not the same. Among other things.

That's probably why most face imports don't work.

Modifié par Mole267, 15 mars 2012 - 10:32 .

[Cootie]

Mole267 wrote...
 there's only ONE set of eyebrows

What.

[Voidrox]

I can't resist any longer , remade my shep the best I could. I would still like to have the renegade scars though. Any way of getting them back by using gibbed , the hair would be nice aswell.

Here's my Shepard : Me 1 / 2 on Top.

http://imageshack.us...9/shepardi.jpg/

[Darthsarna]

Voidrox wrote...

I can't resist any longer , remade my shep the best I could. I would still like to have the renegade scars though. Any way of getting them back by using gibbed , the hair would be nice aswell.

Here's my Shepard : Me 1 / 2 on Top.

http://imageshack.us...9/shepardi.jpg/

Funny you mention that , in ME3 they have a researce option that letts you fix the scaring if you want

[Chugster]

ceforman wrote...

Thetri wrote...

I don't get what the issue is. I imported my ME2 Shepard to ME3 and his face transferred successfully.

The issue is people who have been using the same character since ME1 (i.e. many of BioWare's biggest ME fans and the ones who have grown the most attached to their original Shepard over the first two games) cannot import into ME3.

actually, fresh some ME2 codes are not transferring properly....this one was imported from ME1 but was changed at the ME2 CC to use a ME2 code i found that was better than my original ME1 face:

Modifié par Chugster, 15 mars 2012 - 11:00 .

[JBauer24Tactics]

From A Bioware Update on Facebook...

We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening. Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game. Let’s also remember the man/woman that started this journey for us. What do you love most about your Commander Shepard? Please try to keep the discussion “spoiler-free."

Uhh...what? How are we playing with "our" Commander Shepards here?

[Zmidponk]

fruton wrote...

To those of you clamoring for refunds due to the face import bug, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but i'm pretty sure buying licenses don't get you covered buy the Sales of Goods Act (UK), and many other consumer laws in other countries.

essefar wrote...

Just a quick update that I'm not getting
answers from a quick and superficial internet search so I'll try and
take some time next week to do some proper research, read the terms of
sale, licence conditions and possibly-hopefully-relevant laws, and also
figure out what the relevant organisational bodies are and chase up an
official answer from them. If no-one else gets around to it first. What
fun! I'll report back - I have no problem with getting an eggy face in a
good cause - but it might take some time.

In the meantime,
I'm sticking with my matter-of-fact approach. It's pretty clear what the
UK consumer protection laws on goods and services are trying to
achieve. If there is wriggle room for software, I don't suppose it's
because our law-makers got together and decided it was exempt - do
correct me i'm wrong! - but rather that software is a new-ish technology
product presented in a novel form (the licence) and that the law hasn't
caught up yet.

Well, I can't speak for other countries, but, in the UK, there's the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999.  This holds that:

A contractual term which has not been individually negotiated shall be
regarded as unfair if, contrary to the requirement of good faith, it
causes a significant imbalance in the parties' rights and obligations
arising under the contract, to the detriment of the consumer.

It goes onto say that:

A term shall always be regarded as not having been individually
negotiated where it has been drafted in advance and the consumer has
therefore not been able to influence the substance of the term.

Obviously, a 'licence agreement' which has the effect of nullifying consumer protection laws as you haven't bought the game, merely licenced it, despite all appearances to the contrary, would fall foul of this bit of law.

[Zmidponk]

Voidrox wrote...

I can't resist any longer , remade my shep the best I could. I would still like to have the renegade scars though.

Well, going by a passing mention in the demo about 'your scars reappearing', I think they will gradually reappear as you play through making renegade choices.  I could be wrong, though.

[Kastigar]

Oh Bioware, today is my birthday. Throw me and everyone else here a bone and post even the tiniest update in this thread.

All I want to do is play your game, with the Shepard I made and eventually throw money at you for DLC. I've been mad and posting this thread almost from the get go. But I really just want to play. Endings aside, other bugs aside, mp aside...I just want to play with the character I identify with.

Post something, and make my birthday awesome

[DaBozUK]

Dimensio wrote...

DaBozUK wrote...
It was reported ad nauseum against the demo, and everyone's ****sure response was "this is a DEMO... it will be fine in the full game".

So whilst those users wipe away the egg and chow down on some humble pie, I hope Bioware can get that fix out soon and make up for lost time

The "demo" did not allow importing of Mass Effect 2 save games, and thus could not have been detected with that release.
The first report of this game occurred from a player of the "Space Edition", obtained prior to the official release of the game.  This report prompted numerous inquiries from other players on these forums requesting a response from BioWare staff.

So you're saying that if you import just the face code from ME2 you get a different result from importing the save file?  To me the sult is the same. And its obvious why, due to the reasons outline above in many posts.  It is therefore a very reasonable assumption that it would be a problem in the full game with an import.   It was obvious this was going to happen.

[Clarian]

JBauer24Tactics wrote...
Uhh...what? How are we playing with "our" Commander Shepards here?

Yeah, there's a thread of that here:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9992961

I replied to it with my image and said pretty much just what you did.  Well, to be exact, that I wasn't playing until this was fixed, so...no favorite moments.

[Voidrox]

Well I'd like to start with the scars though if possible. Wanna get the old Shep feeling back.

[Silicon Drifter 82]

Kastigar wrote...

Oh Bioware, today is my birthday. Throw me and everyone else here a bone and post even the tiniest update in this thread.

All I want to do is play your game, with the Shepard I made and eventually throw money at you for DLC. I've been mad and posting this thread almost from the get go. But I really just want to play. Endings aside, other bugs aside, mp aside...I just want to play with the character I identify with.

Post something, and make my birthday awesome

The patch is DLC.

Happy Birthday.

Bioware

[King Espi]

thelonelycyclist wrote...

Hello it isn't the only problem with the game,there are many bugs and a really terrible ending that need sorting.

I love how people keep bringing up the ending. They aren't going to release a patch or update to the game that's going to change the ending. First of all, I don't even think that's possible.

Secondly, even if it was, they're going to do what Bethesda did with Fallout 3. Create a terrible ending to get people to complain and to fix it, then release a DLC which is what they intended the real ending to be.

Nickle and dime us later. Worry about patching this issue you've known about for two weeks, maybe more. Some of us haven't even had the privelege of witnessing this terrible ending.

[ThinkIntegral]

Voidrox wrote...

I can't resist any longer , remade my shep the best I could. I would still like to have the renegade scars though. Any way of getting them back by using gibbed , the hair would be nice aswell.

Here's my Shepard : Me 1 / 2 on Top.

http://imageshack.us...9/shepardi.jpg/

I'm sorry to say your Shepard lost his badass-ness.  But yeah you can get them back through gibbed.


faceeffect.blogspot.com/2012/03/face-effect-version-1.html

[jacobman12]

Well I couldn't wait any longer. Thank you Bioware for the great costumer support. I was forced to recreate my Shepard. Don't get me wrong. This is by far the best game Ive ever played. It's just frustrating when a company you know and have been with from the start is basically just abandoning what is makes it great. I fell your frustration all you out that and you know what. I gave up hope about a patch. Hate to say it but this is the last Bioware product I purchase.

[Cat Lionheart]

I RAGED for the first 3 days about this bug.
Still a bit miffed I will admit but I have moved on to being miffed about the endings (heh heh seems like BioWare just can’t win) but I eventually started a play though with two of my secondary characters, one of them needed his eye color fixed anyway, but I still CAN NOT play with my main character until this bug gets fixed. ( though I have come up with a good face for my main should the bug fail to get fixed)

[Voidrox]

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Voidrox wrote...

I can't resist any longer , remade my shep the best I could. I would still like to have the renegade scars though. Any way of getting them back by using gibbed , the hair would be nice aswell.

Here's my Shepard : Me 1 / 2 on Top.

http://imageshack.us...9/shepardi.jpg/

I'm sorry to say your Shepard lost his badass-ness.  But yeah you can get them back through gibbed.


faceeffect.blogspot.com/2012/03/face-effect-version-1.html

Cheers , I'll try it out.

[TrueHD]

Considering the rage that BioWare is getting just for the endings, I'm guessing this will never be fixed.

[ratzerman]

Well, that "Final Hours" thing fixed the face import issue for me.

It made me not want to bother with the game at all.

[mybudgee]

They do not really care...

[Holger1405]

Voidrox wrote...

I can't resist any longer , remade my shep the best I could. I would still like to have the renegade scars though. Any way of getting them back by using gibbed , the hair would be nice aswell.

Here's my Shepard : Me 1 / 2 on Top.

http://imageshack.us...9/shepardi.jpg/

@ Scars
Just play Renegade, they will appear, or set your Renegade points with Gibbed to max.

@ Hair
Maybe, if a similarly Hairstyle is available in ME3
With this tool:
http://www.gildor.or...projects/umodel
you can sarch the "BIOG_HMM_HIR_PRO_R.pcc " under ":\\Program Files (x86)\\Origin Games\\Mass Effect 3\\BIOGame\\CookedPCConsole"  for the Mesh and Texture code.
Then change the Code with Gibbed.

[akkaze]

Oh well. I basically messed around doing my best to recreate my char face manually and once you learn to adjust for a few things (eg. the skin tone is lighter in the actual game than it appears during char creation) you can get relatively close. It was close enough in my case to not feel like I was playing a completely different person.

And for all the glitches etc, it's a pretty fun game. No spoilers or anything but I am really enjoying it. Nice to meet all the characters again after so long and I do appreciate how the story tried hard to maintain continuity etc etc. And some of the dialogue is pretty funny.

So those of you who are hardcore ME fans, don't get too depressed over the face issue. It's irritating as all heck; but don't let it sap your enthusiasm for the game.

The galaxy needs you.

[Shinji Ex]

It's weird I use the default male Shepard from the start
of ME1 into ME2 but with ME3 the default face did not show up
instead I simply had to choose the default at the bottom

Hm no big deal but just weird the import face was hideous LOL