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Issue importing faces into Mass Effect 3 Updated March 21


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#4501
Belegrom89

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Ehhhhh - can't find more words to show how dissapointing and exhausting this is...

#4502
Sartheris

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Any update yet?

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UntalkativeBunny wrote...

StephanieBengal wrote...

I commend those that have been able to hold out hoping for a fix. No way I could of had done it.

Stay strong.


I sympathize with the fool that can't wait for a patch. :P Only reason I can wait is cause I have other games to play and the eye makeup/eye color isn't in Mass Effect 3 so remaking her doesn't work.


I have already determined that savestates may be altered to set colours not available in the standard character creator.

I recommend not copying the colour codes from the iris to the eye whites.  The results appear disturbing.

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And to think I once defended this company.

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Just finished ME2 yesterday and was ready to play today assuming that since it's been a while since launch this would be fixed. Many of my friends have now finished ME3 and I don't think I really want to play without my Shepard if there is an incomming fix...

At least I haven't been waiting for 10 days, my wait begins now, hopefully it'll be ready within this week?

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Tigercml wrote...

And to think I once defended this company.


As you know there is something like game producer and game developer... EA is developer in this situation and seeing how they handle their titles lately i can guess who's fault is this issue...

Modifié par Belegrom89, 16 mars 2012 - 06:34 .


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Tigercml

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Belegrom89 wrote...

Tigercml wrote...

And to think I once defended this company.


As you know there is something like game producer and game developer... EA is developer in this situation and seeing how they handle their titles lately i can guess who's fault is this issue...


I would say both sides are at fault. Bioware made the game with the problem in it in the first place. EA had nothing to do with it. However EA is probably the ones holding up the fix to the problem. I have a feeling they are just waiting to fix the problem with the next big patch. That way they can just patch a bunch of things at once and not spend more money on multiple pacthes.

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I'm really like to know what the aggregate age of those that are complaining that they CAN'T play the game until there is a fix for this issue.

I will admit that I was annoyed at first that my Shepherd didn't import properly on my 360 but after using the tools available I realized that there are missing assets for my specific Shepherd in both ME 2 and 3.

That did suck since they were able to pull it off in 2 but working in CC the graphic engine is clearly different textures look different, the faces in the CC don't look as realistic and have a more "cartoonish" look but in-game once I was finished my Shepherd looked reasonably good, in fact she looks tired in a way that I feel that fits where my Shepherd is at given the start of ME3.

In short - people who don't want to play until the fix in whatever form it comes, more power to you. But stop complaining that you CAN'T play. More over, do something more with your time than sitting and waiting. There are plenty of other things to do (great games, books, etc) with your time then sit and wait and feel that your concerns aren't being address.

Every response I've seen are standard customer service responses, not great if your putting your life into waiting for the "perfect" ME experience. The patch explanation posted elsewhere was a business response and it makes sense given the constraits of console platform patching and from a business perspective is an explantion to those who probalby don't actually know how long it can take to actually get things fixed in the real world when your resources are pulled in multiple directions.

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Tried and failed twice to recreate my Shep. Came darn close but it just isn't the same...its just game breaking. They might as well have made the Covenant in Halo Creepers from Minecraft and turned Master Chief into an armored Martha Stewart.

Its like something that crawls under your skin watching that opening vid with an altered Shep. You can't put your finger on it, but you can feel there's something off, no matter how close you get. And I just can't play the game that way. It'll be like going to a public event and recognizing someone but not ever rememebering where from. No matter what's going on in the scene I'm always looking at Alt. Shep thinking, "what's off?"

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d1nonlyclo wrote...

I'm really like to know what the aggregate age of those that are complaining that they CAN'T play the game until there is a fix for this issue.

I will admit that I was annoyed at first that my Shepherd didn't import properly on my 360 but after using the tools available I realized that there are missing assets for my specific Shepherd in both ME 2 and 3.

That did suck since they were able to pull it off in 2 but working in CC the graphic engine is clearly different textures look different, the faces in the CC don't look as realistic and have a more "cartoonish" look but in-game once I was finished my Shepherd looked reasonably good, in fact she looks tired in a way that I feel that fits where my Shepherd is at given the start of ME3.

In short - people who don't want to play until the fix in whatever form it comes, more power to you. But stop complaining that you CAN'T play. More over, do something more with your time than sitting and waiting. There are plenty of other things to do (great games, books, etc) with your time then sit and wait and feel that your concerns aren't being address.

Every response I've seen are standard customer service responses, not great if your putting your life into waiting for the "perfect" ME experience. The patch explanation posted elsewhere was a business response and it makes sense given the constraits of console platform patching and from a business perspective is an explantion to those who probalby don't actually know how long it can take to actually get things fixed in the real world when your resources are pulled in multiple directions.

I refuse to play the game because I know one minor error on my face will annoy very much.
And I want to complete this game with my Shepard. It was my story, if I start now it's just some random guy.

And of course I'm not doing nothing, I'm playing games that work correctly.

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Belegrom89

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d1nonlyclo wrote...

In short - people who don't want to play until the fix in whatever form it comes, more power to you. But stop complaining that you CAN'T play. More over, do something more with your time than sitting and waiting. There are plenty of other things to do (great games, books, etc) with your time then sit and wait and feel that your concerns aren't being address.


Trust me - most of us have other things to do... And when we finish them we would like to sit and relax playing a game that's avaible for 8days (i'm from Europe) but we can't, so we get here, complain and then go do something else...

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Personally, I'm 23. I was really upset at launch when this happened but I eventually just recreated my Shepard using a close face code + tweaks while I was looking at pics from 2. He actually looks about perfect. I know this won't work for everyone but it's worth a shot if you really want to play the game soon and don't feel like waiting.

I understand why people are upset, I was too, but what was posted about the patching process is true. It takes longer than a week to patch something, let alone something as major as this, that's just how it is. I agree that it wouldn't hurt for them to apologize but it also doesn't hurt to try to have some understanding as well. Not trying to undermine how people are feeling at all, just kind of hoping that some of the vitriol might calm down.

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d1nonlyclo wrote...

More over, do something more with your time than sitting and waiting. There are plenty of other things to do (great games, books, etc) with your time then sit and wait and feel that your concerns aren't being address.


NO! I am not doing anything with my life until they fix this problem!

;)

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Belegrom89

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zacgodbold wrote...

NO! I am not doing anything with my life until they fix this problem!

;)


Keep calm and don't die ;)

Modifié par Belegrom89, 16 mars 2012 - 07:03 .


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Pheonix52gx wrote...

woodbyte wrote...

Still nothing? :mellow:

My result from messing around with gibbed's editors:

AWESOME

Still not looking quite like my old char, but it is getting there. Anyone know how to tweak eyebrow thickness?

Anyway, my thanks to all who have taken the time to document the available methods, wouldn't have come this far without their help. (Pheonix52gx, ELE08, jkthunder & others).

This attempt looks great. I'm having trouble with finding issues with yours. In regards to eyebrows, if you're using the correct style, I don't know what to say; its a texture, the only way to change it would be to change which texture you're using (but I think you're using the correct one) or change the texture itself.


Thanks. :)
The eyebrows aren't a big deal. I ended up just changing one of the members of VectorParameters (HED_Brow_Tint_Vector) back to ME3 values, which seems to have made it slightly darker and more defined.

By the way, while I was going through all the different variables I took some notes. These were my findings (only included the differences I found between ME2/3 along with which of the values I decided to use):

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It's the decision table that lead me to the face I showed earlier.

Although the differences are substancial between games, there were quite alot of values that were dead on (using a margin of .005 for floats). Now maybe the differences I found are unique to my Naomi, but the CC should be more or less consistent on how it changes the features, no?

If so, this table might be useful to those willing to try the gibbed method but feel overwhelmed by the amount of tweaking involved.

edit: I just realised the sheer size of the table might just put people off trying in the first place... Oops! :unsure:

edit #2: Fixed a couple of errors on the table.

Modifié par woodbyte, 17 mars 2012 - 07:51 .


#4516
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I'm just recreating him as best as I can. Then I will mentally attribute the changes that don't look quite right to the stress of months of incarceration or war or whatever. My mind will eventually be tricked. Once they fix it I can then play again with my REAL Shepard with the advantage of knowing what to do! Simple.

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d1nonlyclo wrote...

I'm really like to know what the aggregate age of those that are complaining that they CAN'T play the game until there is a fix for this issue.

I will admit that I was annoyed at first that my Shepherd didn't import properly on my 360 but after using the tools available I realized that there are missing assets for my specific Shepherd in both ME 2 and 3.

That did suck since they were able to pull it off in 2 but working in CC the graphic engine is clearly different textures look different, the faces in the CC don't look as realistic and have a more "cartoonish" look but in-game once I was finished my Shepherd looked reasonably good, in fact she looks tired in a way that I feel that fits where my Shepherd is at given the start of ME3.

In short - people who don't want to play until the fix in whatever form it comes, more power to you. But stop complaining that you CAN'T play. More over, do something more with your time than sitting and waiting. There are plenty of other things to do (great games, books, etc) with your time then sit and wait and feel that your concerns aren't being address.

Every response I've seen are standard customer service responses, not great if your putting your life into waiting for the "perfect" ME experience. The patch explanation posted elsewhere was a business response and it makes sense given the constraits of console platform patching and from a business perspective is an explantion to those who probalby don't actually know how long it can take to actually get things fixed in the real world when your resources are pulled in multiple directions.


I think you're missing the point.  I seriously doubt people are sitting next to their ME3 box sayin, "Why I no can Play?".  You realize you don' want to play and then do something else.  I think its aweful judgemental for you to think that just becuase you can get over it, others can too.  Some people have invested ALOT of time into "Their" Shep and that has become the face of ME to them.  Changing that would seem unnatural to people who have come to see their Shep as the only Shep.  I know it feels eeire to me.  On top of all that, not everyone here is on a computer and can use the tools provided.  Many are on Consoles and so we have to suffer redoing the face by memory alone.

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radiomongo wrote...
It takes longer than a week to patch something, let alone something as major as this, that's just how it is.


I don't mind waiting a long time for a patch.  I don't need an ETA, either.  I realize it might take a long time before they can even determine whether it's something they can fix at all, and that's fine.  

The only thing I'm waiting for is for Bioware to say, "Yes, we're aware that this isn't working right." (Or, "No, this is working as intended, sorry if you don't like it.") 

But, that hasn't happened yet.

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Ragke wrote...
I tried to recreate my Shepard using a combination of the .yaml thing and looking at screenshots I took, and 1) the face complexion I used does not exist so I had to find the best match, 2) the exact nose is not present, 3) the skin tone is off, 4) the iris color is a little off, 5) my hairstyle is missing (the original bun hairstyle is gone; its replacements are slightly off), and 6) all the makeup is off, although this was the hardest thing to try to emulate, because it's so subtle, you can't really tell what you did in ME1 and ME2 through screenshots.

I saved the face code for this "make-over Shep" anyway, but ultimately decided not to play. It's just a little too different from my original.
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She looks good to me (considering the new CC lighting is rubbish). Did you try playing with her for a bit? Often the faces look much better in the cinematics.

Also, if you don't mind changing her hair you should try one of the new hairstyles. I was also having trouble getting over the "slightly off" hairstyle of my Shep, and after deciding to go for a different haircut I found it easier to accept the new face.

Modifié par woodbyte, 16 mars 2012 - 07:37 .


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Sorry, completely off-topic:

I finally installed my game, and when I installed Origin I couldn't log in with my BSN account. So I created a new Origin account, using the same username, but a different email-address. Then I wanted to merge this account with my BSN one, and thus contacted the EA help. I had a nice chat with some dude with an indish sounding name, whom I could (after some difficulties) convince that the process of merging accounts was actually possible and explaineded on the BSN.

After acknowleding the possibility and getting more info he asked for my account dates, which I happily provided him with. To verify my ownership of the accounts he asked for the dates of birth associated with the account. I gave him my birthday, and he told me that it was only accurate for the newly created Origin account. While I have no idea why I should have registered under another birthday here on the BSN I told him I'd look it up.

Now my question: where the **** do I get to see this info? I mean, I was logged in (as I am now, obviously) during the whole discussion, but I had and have no idea where I could look up this birthday info. Couldn't find it anywhere under profile or account settings. I was just told that the birthday I was sure to have registered under was wrong.

So for now I am stuck with this: "Your ownership of Mass Effect 3 was not detected. You are most likely logged in to the BioWare Social Network with a different account than the one you are using to play Mass Effect 3. Go to Your Registered Game Content page for more troubleshooting instructions." and a friendly "goodbye!" from the EA help guy.

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TheRealJayDee wrote...

Sorry, completely off-topic:

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If you knew it was off-topic why did you still post it here? This thread is hard enough to follow without random posts filling it up. :blink:

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So no new updates, eh? My faith is beginning to waiver...

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Belegrom89 wrote...

Tigercml wrote...

And to think I once defended this company.


As you know there is something like game producer and game developer... EA is developer in this situation and seeing how they handle their titles lately i can guess who's fault is this issue...


Actually, it's the other way around....BioWare is the developer and EA is the Publisher. So BioWare did make the game, but EA has a final say in everything so technically, yes EA is a little more to blame than BioWare, but then again....BioWare did become the sell-outs and let EA publish them....

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zacgodbold wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

zacgodbold wrote...

We should all start messaging them on Twitter about this. They respond to those.


No, they don't. As I've said before, they've ignored me anytime I mention this issue but responded to my praise of the soundtrack (which is superb).


bit.ly/z8pW6m


That's made me feel a lot worse that they ignored me at least 3 times about this issue!

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Emphyr wrote...

I Think i was only torture myself.. so i did create again ( the 5th time) to recreate Nicole.
The 5th time was a succes!!! (Using the tools) I am glad i didnt stay stubborn on the point I will not play.

I do play now and i love it!

sofar i am now (mars) and again the citadel the game has everything i wanted .
I am leaving the forums... i first will play the game to the ending . On the way to the ending i will LOVE it..at the point i come to the ending i will have a save save game.

If i arrive there will see what i will do.
But that will be at least 100 play hours later... Why 100 ? I play slowly :P
Take Care

See you later.


Nice

Another one that thinks  the ending are bad because everybody says that.

I have my opinion and i really liked them (yeah i know this isn't the topic for that) :)

Modifié par Bonaven, 16 mars 2012 - 08:18 .