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#4851
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Emphyr wrote...

There is a huge topic in the section with spoilers allowed.. does contain spolers about the ending but already there is no way to avoid it.

The topic is about the PR from Bioware and EA and how they are reacting on the problems. Also former PR ppl are responding.

For thoose that dont play yet and are still waiting until Bioware does anything... according this topic it will take weeks (i hope not)  Also Amazon has started to refund the ppl who bought ME3 from them!

Its a very informative topic. The openings post is long but you have to read it.. (No spoilers)

http://social.biowar.../index/10084349

Take care.


Also interested in the Amazon refund part, I have no problems with not playing the game at all and getting a refund, then buying it at knock down price in 6 months but only if I can use my imported Shep. I can wait a bit longer, even tho the excitement has gone. It is too easy to just roll over and play the game with a sense of frustration and with an underlying sense of  "thats not my Shepherd goddamit", and I have no problem with people who do that, you buy the game its your choice. But the only thing that will get the developers to do something adequate about it, is not give them your money. Because I broke the seal on the box (to play the game)and entered the game code inside (because it asked me to), I am not sure if that invalidates my chances of a refund. I will try and let you know how I get on.

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Same, posted a review on Amazon.

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MrNiceguy976 wrote...

cApAc aMaRu wrote...

My review on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/

Summary: don't buy, faces broken.


Posted my review to Amazon too!

http://www.amazon.co...w/R2HAM4T7ZWRPF

Plus, it looks like their review score is hurting- It's 2 stars across the board for all versions of the game.
Will Bioware notice? Probably not, considering they will be too busy bathing in hot tubs full of Benjamins with Sports Illustrated models.


We need to be strong, like the ending guys, and hold the line. Every little bit of outcry, every dissenting voice needs to be heard.

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I still cannot believe I have bought Mass Effect 3 and I cannot play it.

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Not to be obnoxious by continually posting this, but I want to make sure anyone it can help sees it:

KunamiMata wrote...

I went from this in Mass Effect:

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To this in Mass Effect 2:

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To this in Mass Effect 3:

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By just doing this:

KunamiMata wrote...

Here is basically what I did.

1. Start a brand new Mass Effect 2 save file with your Mass Effect imported Shepard. It has to be brand new, because you're going to need to move, not copy it, to a USB flash drive that is formatted to work on your 360. You don't want to do this with your finished game save, so make sure it's a new one (i.e. right when you wake up from your coma, save and quit).

2. Go to Settings in your dashboard, System, Storage, Hard Drive and find your Mass Effect 2 save (not "Mass Effect 2 Importer"). Inside, you should find files for all your DLC and each of your careers. They will all be named after your Shepards and dated. Move the career you just created to your USB flash drive (don't copy, because the Xbox won't allow it).

3. Download and install this program on your PC (it's best to have this version): hotfile.com/dl/143431599/02eaea8/Modio_3.zip.html

4. Plug your USB flash drive into your PC, and using Modio, select Open from a device. Click the device you see. Mass Effect 2 should pop up in that list. Select it, then select your Shepard's save file. When the following window pops up, click the File Contents tab at the top. You should see several .xbsav extensions. Right click one of them and extract them all to your desktop (or where ever you prefer).

5. Go to this website and register on it: legion.cal24.pl/me2/

6. Once you've registered at that site and logged in, click the My saves tab at the top of the page. The specific save file that you extracted to your desktop (or where ever) that you're going to want to upload here should be named Save_0001.xbsav. Go ahead and upload that save on this site.

7. You should now have one save listed at the top of that page with a string of options following it. The second to last option on that row is Morph head. Click that option.

8. Now new options show up. You want to click Export YAML. It should download a file to your computer called morphhead.yaml. Check this file in Notepad to make sure it's all in code that you can read (only read, not necessarily understand), otherwise the file is mucked up and you have to try this step again.

9. Once you have a decent YAML file to work with, upload it in one of two places, depending on the sex of your Commander Shepard -

Female Shepards will upload heremasseffecttools.99k.org/femshep_upload.php

Male Shepards will upload heremasseffecttools.99k.org/maleshep_upload.php

Remember to add your Shepard's name, because it's how you recover the face template code.

10. Lastly, you're going to want to get your Shepard's code, again in one of two places depending on the sex -

Female Shepards codes are heremasseffecttools.99k.org/femshep_code.php

Male Shepards codes are heremasseffecttools.99k.org/maleshep_code.php

All you need to do now is enter the name you typed when you uploaded your YAML file, and bam, instant Shepard readout and code for your Shepard. There will be a little tweaking required (as pointed out by the ***** asterisks), but it shouldn't be anywhere near as bad as trying to recreate your Shepard from scratch. It'll generally be little things like hairstyle, makeup color, or eye color. You know, the easy things to remember and fix. Everything without the ***** next to them should be correct, though.

And that's pretty much how I got my Shepard back without waiting for any sort of patch. You just enter that code you get at the bottom of that page into your custom character creation back on your 360 copy of Mass Effect 3 and do the necessary tweaking and you're done.



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KunamiMata, it's great that you managed to get a Shepard so close looking to your ME2 version, and we appreciate the help you're trying to give to people on this forum.

However, I've tried the above technique and the results for me were still mixed (and even after tweaking the YAML results). Some people will get very close matches, good for them, but many won't simply because we selected features in ME2 that have since changed or no longer exist in ME3.

However I will try YAML one more time, in case there's something I did wrong.

Modifié par Omega Glory, 18 mars 2012 - 08:21 .


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why no updates on this issue?

I still can't believe that this bug got through testing and certification.

I can't further believe that it is now March 18th and it has not been addressed.

#4858
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This game has more 1 star reviews on Amazon than almost all it's other reviews combined. Solely because of this issue. And if they would have just kept everyone in the loop, all of this would have been avoided. Luckily Amazon is awesome and refunded my money.

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Jae Are wrote...

This game has more 1 star reviews on Amazon than almost all it's other reviews combined. Solely because of this issue. And if they would have just kept everyone in the loop, all of this would have been avoided. Luckily Amazon is awesome and refunded my money.


Normally I don't post here, just read posts but I feel like I have to address this myself whether I am right or wrong. The reason they haven't updated us, is cause there isn't anything to update. The fact that they are investigating it pretty much already says they are working on a patch.

Yes, it would be smart to bundle this problem with others which is what most game developers do and the reason for why it is taking so long to patch is probably because they had to discuss the best way to fix it. Most likely they will have to rewrite the whole import feature and add in the missing facial features.

Everyone needs to be a little more patient than they are. I have not touched single player since I bought it and found out about the problem and I have no problem waiting. I have other games to complete.

Modifié par UntalkativeBunny, 18 mars 2012 - 08:38 .


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UntalkativeBunny wrote...

Jae Are wrote...

This game has more 1 star reviews on Amazon than almost all it's other reviews combined. Solely because of this issue. And if they would have just kept everyone in the loop, all of this would have been avoided. Luckily Amazon is awesome and refunded my money.


Normally I don't post here, just read posts but I feel like I have to address this myself whether I am right or wrong. The reason they haven't updated us, is cause there isn't anything to update. The fact that they are investigating it pretty much already says they are working on a patch.

Yes, it would be smart to bundle this problem with others which is what most game developers do and the reason for why it is taking so long to patch is probably because they had to discuss the best way to fix it. Most likely they will have to rewrite the whole import feature and add in the missing facial features.

Everyone needs to be a little more patient than they are. I have not touched single player since I bought it and found out about the problem and I have no problem waiting. I have other games to complete.



Being 'patient' over a problem that prevents you from using what you paid for for its intended purpose is essentially giving EA and Bioware carte blanche to dance around laughing while waving around your money. This problem should never have passed testing. When I buy a game I expect ot be able to play it, the way it was designed. Anything less is unacceptable.

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Jae Are wrote...

This game has more 1 star reviews on Amazon than almost all it's other reviews combined. Solely because of this issue. And if they would have just kept everyone in the loop, all of this would have been avoided. Luckily Amazon is awesome and refunded my money.


Who is still reading customer reviews on Amazon? :P
I stopped looking at them because most people don't actually review the product itself.
The face import was a big issue for me but after I managed to get a workaround I enjoyed the whole game. Giving it the worst rating seems a little too rude to me. So after this is fixed and the reason why all of the people gave the game the worst rating possible is gone, the rating will stay even though the problem is gone. Doesn't seem fair to me.
Giving it a 3/5 instead of 4/5 or something like that and saying "Will be more once it's fixed" would be more the way to do it in my opinion. Same goes for all those 1/10 metacritic user reviews.

#4862
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If nobody should get mad over why their Shepards have messed up faces, then why do plastic surgeons always get sued for malpractice for making someone not like their nose job?

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Runalak wrote...

Jae Are wrote...

This game has more 1 star reviews on Amazon than almost all it's other reviews combined. Solely because of this issue. And if they would have just kept everyone in the loop, all of this would have been avoided. Luckily Amazon is awesome and refunded my money.


Who is still reading customer reviews on Amazon? :P
I stopped looking at them because most people don't actually review the product itself.
The face import was a big issue for me but after I managed to get a workaround I enjoyed the whole game. Giving it the worst rating seems a little too rude to me. So after this is fixed and the reason why all of the people gave the game the worst rating possible is gone, the rating will stay even though the problem is gone. Doesn't seem fair to me.
Giving it a 3/5 instead of 4/5 or something like that and saying "Will be more once it's fixed" would be more the way to do it in my opinion. Same goes for all those 1/10 metacritic user reviews.


My score for a game i cant play due to fail QA is 1/5. I may change my review IF it ever gets patched, and its any good.

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cApAc aMaRu wrote...

Being 'patient' over a problem that prevents you from using what you paid for for its intended purpose is essentially giving EA and Bioware carte blanche to dance around laughing while waving around your money. This problem should never have passed testing. When I buy a game I expect ot be able to play it, the way it was designed. Anything less is unacceptable.


While you're right it should have never been a problem, it was most likely overlooked. There are a few reasons how it could have slipped passed testing, which means they didn't thouroughly test the face import. The problem doesn't necessarily stop us from playing, we just choose not to without our Shepard's face. No one should expect a game to be released flawlessly, they all have glitches and problems on release which is what we should expect in the first place.

It's no different than when the first gen Xbox's were released, they ended up with disc reading problems a lot and I still bought a new one when mine was finished, still bought an Xbox 360 when it was released too. Lol. Technology isn't perfect. I was just giving a heads up as to why this patch will take awhile and yet I'm not a representative for BioWare.

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Just stumbled upon KunamiMata's method and gave it a shot for kicks. I think I may have reclaimed enough of my Shepard to go ahead:

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My phone has washed out much of the color/detail from the CC screens, but in practice, many of the features line up. The ME2 shots were taken in the dark, the ME3 shots were taken in bright daylight.

Things that didn't translate / I had to fix on my own:

- Complexion
- Iris Color
- Nose Shape
- Hair
- Beard (ME3 has two variants of 5 o'clock shadow, I went with the heavier one)
- Facial Hair Color

I think I'm going to go with this approximation. He seems a little heavier. Also, ME1/ME2 Shepard had a really weird underbite which I was never crazy about (but got used to), but couldn't even figure out how to reproduce it in ME3's CC.

I'll have to write in my own canon about how Shepard got some nip/tuck surgery done and put on a few pounds after leaving the Normandy.

Just wanted to share my experiences with the method below - it doesn't make BioWare's mistake any less absurd, but it might help folks who just want to move on...

Thanks KunamiMata!

KunamiMata wrote...

Not really. I kind of went with a mishmash of things I found and trial and errored them until I found something that worked.

Here is basically what I did.

1. Start a brand new Mass Effect 2 save file with your Mass Effect imported Shepard. It has to be brand new, because you're going to need to move, not copy it, to a USB flash drive that is formatted to work on your 360. You don't want to do this with your finished game save, so make sure it's a new one (i.e. right when you wake up from your coma, save and quit).

2. Go to Settings in your dashboard, System, Storage, Hard Drive and find your Mass Effect 2 save (not "Mass Effect 2 Importer"). Inside, you should find files for all your DLC and each of your careers. They will all be named after your Shepards and dated. Move the career you just created to your USB flash drive (don't copy, because the Xbox won't allow it).

3. Download and install this program on your PC (it's best to have this version): hotfile.com/dl/143431599/02eaea8/Modio_3.zip.html

4. Plug your USB flash drive into your PC, and using Modio, select Open from a device. Click the device you see. Mass Effect 2 should pop up in that list. Select it, then select your Shepard's save file. When the following window pops up, click the File Contents tab at the top. You should see several .xbsav extensions. Right click one of them and extract them all to your desktop (or where ever you prefer).

5. Go to this website and register on it: legion.cal24.pl/me2/

6. Once you've registered at that site and logged in, click the My saves tab at the top of the page. The specific save file that you extracted to your desktop (or where ever) that you're going to want to upload here should be named Save_0001.xbsav. Go ahead and upload that save on this site.

7. You should now have one save listed at the top of that page with a string of options following it. The second to last option on that row is Morph head. Click that option.

8. Now new options show up. You want to click Export YAML. It should download a file to your computer called morphhead.yaml. Check this file in Notepad to make sure it's all in code that you can read (only read, not necessarily understand), otherwise the file is mucked up and you have to try this step again.

9. Once you have a decent YAML file to work with, upload it in one of two places, depending on the sex of your Commander Shepard -

Female Shepards will upload heremasseffecttools.99k.org/femshep_upload.php

Male Shepards will upload heremasseffecttools.99k.org/maleshep_upload.php

Remember to add your Shepard's name, because it's how you recover the face template code.

10. Lastly, you're going to want to get your Shepard's code, again in one of two places depending on the sex -

Female Shepards codes are heremasseffecttools.99k.org/femshep_code.php

Male Shepards codes are heremasseffecttools.99k.org/maleshep_code.php

All you need to do now is enter the name you typed when you uploaded your YAML file, and bam, instant Shepard readout and code for your Shepard. There will be a little tweaking required (as pointed out by the ***** asterisks), but it shouldn't be anywhere near as bad as trying to recreate your Shepard from scratch. It'll generally be little things like hairstyle, makeup color, or eye color. You know, the easy things to remember and fix. Everything without the ***** next to them should be correct, though.

And that's pretty much how I got my Shepard back without waiting for any sort of patch. You just enter that code you get at the bottom of that page into your custom character creation back on your 360 copy of Mass Effect 3 and do the necessary tweaking and you're done.



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UntalkativeBunny wrote...
While you're right it should have never been a problem, it was most likely overlooked. There are a few reasons how it could have slipped passed testing, which means they didn't thouroughly test the face import.


That could be for the error message issue (though it's still really not acceptable).  For the custom Shepards who don't look like the same person from 1&2, it doesn't make sense.  Yeah, the import you do once and it's over.  But your Shep's face, you look at through the whole game.  There are so many players now who are saying that their Shep looks like a different person, even though they had no problem with the transition from 1 to 2, but no one at Bioware noticed this? That's not something that just slips by.

Modifié par Clarian, 18 mars 2012 - 09:17 .


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hm, if there aren't any news concerning this problem by mid-next week, i'm going to sell my copy of me3. i most likely end up losing money, but i prefer cash in hand to having a game i can't play.

Modifié par sic transit gloria mundi, 18 mars 2012 - 09:41 .


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UntalkativeBunny wrote...

cApAc aMaRu wrote...

Being 'patient' over a problem that prevents you from using what you paid for for its intended purpose is essentially giving EA and Bioware carte blanche to dance around laughing while waving around your money. This problem should never have passed testing. When I buy a game I expect ot be able to play it, the way it was designed. Anything less is unacceptable.


While you're right it should have never been a problem, it was most likely overlooked. There are a few reasons how it could have slipped passed testing, which means they didn't thouroughly test the face import. The problem doesn't necessarily stop us from playing, we just choose not to without our Shepard's face. No one should expect a game to be released flawlessly, they all have glitches and problems on release which is what we should expect in the first place.

It's no different than when the first gen Xbox's were released, they ended up with disc reading problems a lot and I still bought a new one when mine was finished, still bought an Xbox 360 when it was released too. Lol. Technology isn't perfect. I was just giving a heads up as to why this patch will take awhile and yet I'm not a representative for BioWare.


No offense, but get real. You think something this huge made it through testing? Not to mention they already knew about the problem a week before the game was even released, and then waited until people were about to come to their offices with pitchforks and torches before they even acknowledged the problem.

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And as far as the work around goes, I had a MUCH easier time creating my Shep in SAINTS ROW 3!! How sad is that?! A came vastly inferior has a 10x better CC. and Why does everyone in ME3 look plastic.

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My white sheperd turned black. Beat that.

PS. Lol@people complaining about faces. There's so much worse to gripe on...

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SovereignWillReturn wrote...

My white sheperd turned black. Beat that.

PS. Lol@people complaining about faces. There's so much worse to gripe on...

I wouldn't know, haven't played yet. So, so far this is the biggest problem I have yet to encounter.

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Do you think they read this topic? They should have to. They may just ignore it completely.

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Omega Glory wrote...


KunamiMata, it's great that you managed to get a Shepard so close looking to your ME2 version, and we appreciate the help you're trying to give to people on this forum.

However, I've tried the above technique and the results for me were still mixed (and even after tweaking the YAML results). Some people will get very close matches, good for them, but many won't simply because we selected features in ME2 that have since changed or no longer exist in ME3.

However I will try YAML one more time, in case there's something I did wrong.


Well, tried YAML once more, and the result is essentially the same. Shepard's eyes and nose are simply off.  I can safely say it's down to fundamental differences in CC. ME2's CC was much more varied, now some some options are just no longer available.

Graphics wise, Shepard looks wonderful in game and there's no doubting the technical leap in the game graphics. I just wish Bioware didn't do away with the old CC, which had served gamers so well. Let's hope they manage to give us the fix we deserve.

Modifié par Omega Glory, 18 mars 2012 - 10:10 .


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SovereignWillReturn wrote...

My white sheperd turned black. Beat that.

PS. Lol@people complaining about faces. There's so much worse to gripe on...


Zzzzz....go away troll.

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Couldn't wait any longer so I started a new game a few days ago. I played through the beginning part of Mass Effect 2 and completely remade my character in the CC until it was an exact match. Copy and pasted the face code into Mass Effect 3, did a little bit of tweaking, and hey presto! I got a face. Oddly though, my FemShep actually looks BETTTER in ME3 o.O

Modifié par DitzyDaffy, 18 mars 2012 - 10:37 .