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[cApAc aMaRu]

Malcroix wrote...

Emphyr wrote...

Some Fun now:)

(high level ppl from EA and BW spotted on the forums)

http://social.biowar.../index/10739853

I LOL'd

My favs were the goose and the masked cat

To think Mr Stanley Woo was LIGHTNING QUICK to lock down that thread. Took him 6 minutes.

If only Bioware's reflexes were as keen on fixing our game-breaking bug...

Customer service isn't as important as customer control. Not to these people.

[Zmidponk]

Lion Martinez wrote...

Hello again,

No Mr. Cat has not left the building but being on GMT+1, I am not at the office during the most busy US hours and had to tend to the family a bit. I'm usually on anyway but I couldn't last night unfortunately.

I want to clear a few things up. Firstly I don't work OUT OF BioWare Austin or Edmonton but I am just as much a full time employee nonetheless. My actual duties do not include these forums but I chose to ask for permission to talk to you as I believe it's needed. In fact my prime tasks involve Nordics only but I care about all fans so I'm here on my own accord.

Noted.  However, this smells of you trying to clean up the mess left by more senior people at Bioware, quite frankly, which means it's nice of you to volunteer to do it, but it's something that shouldn't need to be done.

I don't expect my presence to make your frustration regarding this problem and how you feel you been treated to magicially disappear, nor am I feeding you something that I don't genuinely believe. You are very much entitled to voicing your opinions and you should not be moderated for it as long as it's not personal attacks or trolling towards BioWare staff members.

I do however, in the situation we're in hope that you can see that we are actually working on issues and that we hear you. Everything said here is compiled and conveyed to the correct people, both at EA and BioWare.
I know that it might not always seem that any of us are around, especially with a perceived "silence" when there's no post from BioWare staff for X amount of time. But we are and we do. Also this is something I CAN affect and thus I'm doing my best to affect it.

Now I can't talk specifically why this error was in the live game, simple reason is that I wasn't part of the process. I know how irritating it can be though, I have friends who are affected. I've been lucky as I run PC stock MaleShep but it doesn't lessen my empathy for the need for a fix. I acknowledge it fully.

Fine, you can't say why the error is in the game, but can you clarify precisely what is 'fixed' when Chris Priestly says that this error is 'fixed'?  Is it the error message, the faces looking different, or both?  If the answer is 'I cannot say because I do not know', can you either find out, or contact the people who do know (such as Chris Priestly himself) so that they can tell us?

[StMalk]

21 days passed. Still no patch, no fix, nothing. People can't even play the game they bought. Perfect.

[DoctorEss]

StMalk wrote...

21 days passed. Still no patch, no fix, nothing. People can't even play the game they bought. Perfect.

Either EA, Bioware, or both, will likely refuse to release this patch until after PAX.  I'm sure some suit has some reasoning behind why they think it's a good idea.  It's not, and it'll cause a lot of gamers to be really, really wary about their products in the future.

Would I be likely to buy from Bioware again, if they forced me to wait 6+ weeks just to play a game in the condition it was promised to me?  Hell no.

What I am likely to do, is return this game on Saturday.  That will have given them the entire month of March to fix something that should have never been broken in the first place.

Clock's ticking, and (to quote a poster from much earlier in the thread), Bioware doesn't Biocare.

[DJRackham]

AlanC9 wrote...

Crimson Jupiter wrote...

I can't wait for the patch to be released so i can start playing the game and make up my mind about the endings that so many people are unhappy about. I have a feeling that i will disagree with those people, but i don't want to take part in any discussions until i have experienced them myself :/

Something I've never quite understood about this topic.... even if your Shep won't import  (my first didn't, my second did), why not just re-create the face with the ME3 editor? It's really annoying, but only a few minutes of work.

If by a few minutes you mean the 90 minutes it took me just to get a code from ME 2 for my current play through using the YMAL method, then sure, no biggie (NOT!!!). I so looking forward to trying to import FemShep into ME 3. Hopfully most of the assests I used to create the face will be available. Now multiple that by 6 (the total number of ME 1 imports I have). 


Edit: Clarification

Modifié par DJRackham, 28 mars 2012 - 08:46 .

[Simonion]

DoctorEss wrote...

Simonion wrote...

Just read that interview with Brian Fargo, and it just all makes sense now. It sort of reaffirmed what I already knew.
This is EAs doing. Not Biowares.
I'm not one to make sensationalist comments really but I truly believe Bioware sold it's soul to EA. It's not mere coincidence that bad press and consumer backlash began in earnest after EA bought out Bioware. EA handles the QA and when they see fit to release the game, it's released, regardless of Biowares input or protest. It's the business practices from above that Bioware has zero influence on that are slowly eroding the reputation of the company.

And that's the true shame for me. Sure, I'm bummed that I can't play my £70 Collector's Edition. But I'm devastated that this great company is being dragged further and further into the mire by the huge publishing juggernaut that owns it. I fear great new IPs such as Mass Effect and Dragon Age could be a thing of the past. Truly upsetting, to be honest.

That's the basic truth.  EA, Activision, and other pubs like them would much prefer to endlessly rehash sequels, rather than risk new IPs.  Which is why despite what Bioware's original intent for ME was, EA will force them to make new ones.  If they don't want to, well, Bioware goes Westwood, and EA simply gets a team of people to make ME games without them.

I don't know about you but I have been an avid gamer all my life. The first Mass Effect is simply one of the best games ever made, all IMO of course. An exquisite piece of storytelling that had me captivated for a good 6 months and which I still rank among my top 5 games. Then the 2nd came and it started. EA had bought Bioware by that point and it showed. Hollywood-esque storyline complete with Hollywood-esque action to appeal to the masses. Not to detract from what was an excellent game in it's own right. Just not a patch (no pun intended lolololol) on the first game.

And now we have this. I can't express how upsetting it is, really. I haven't played any game since it's release. I just can't bring myself to do it. I'm at the stage now where my perspective of games and gaming has changed drastically, and I won't be nearly as invested in a game, or franchise, again.

For those who see it as overly dramatic, well, maybe it is. But respect that there are those of us out there feeling a real sense of loss.

[SpiritWolf448]

StMalk wrote...

21 days passed. Still no patch, no fix, nothing. People can't even play the game they bought. Perfect.

Well, technically the game is playable. Just not with the character appearance you played the first 2 parts of the trilogy with. Which, of course, is the actual gamebreaker.

As for when the patch will be available... if they sent it over to MS and Sony the very day Mr. Priestley made his last post to this thread (march 21st) and provided it works flawlessly, it may be available mid-april if the certification process takes its usual time. If there is any reason at all for MS or Sony to send it back for refinement, don't expect it to be released before early may.

The ones suffering the most from this procedure, of course, are the PC users who could get the patch way earlier if BiowarEA wasn't hellbent on keeping the PC version of the patch under wraps until the console versions are ready for deployment as well.

Ah well, nothing a lowly customer can change. life's a cruel mistress, no?

[DoctorEss]

Simonion wrote...

DoctorEss wrote...

Simonion wrote...

Just read that interview with Brian Fargo, and it just all makes sense now. It sort of reaffirmed what I already knew.
This is EAs doing. Not Biowares.
I'm not one to make sensationalist comments really but I truly believe Bioware sold it's soul to EA. It's not mere coincidence that bad press and consumer backlash began in earnest after EA bought out Bioware. EA handles the QA and when they see fit to release the game, it's released, regardless of Biowares input or protest. It's the business practices from above that Bioware has zero influence on that are slowly eroding the reputation of the company.

And that's the true shame for me. Sure, I'm bummed that I can't play my £70 Collector's Edition. But I'm devastated that this great company is being dragged further and further into the mire by the huge publishing juggernaut that owns it. I fear great new IPs such as Mass Effect and Dragon Age could be a thing of the past. Truly upsetting, to be honest.

That's the basic truth.  EA, Activision, and other pubs like them would much prefer to endlessly rehash sequels, rather than risk new IPs.  Which is why despite what Bioware's original intent for ME was, EA will force them to make new ones.  If they don't want to, well, Bioware goes Westwood, and EA simply gets a team of people to make ME games without them.

I don't know about you but I have been an avid gamer all my life. The first Mass Effect is simply one of the best games ever made, all IMO of course. An exquisite piece of storytelling that had me captivated for a good 6 months and which I still rank among my top 5 games. Then the 2nd came and it started. EA had bought Bioware by that point and it showed. Hollywood-esque storyline complete with Hollywood-esque action to appeal to the masses. Not to detract from what was an excellent game in it's own right. Just not a patch (no pun intended lolololol) on the first game.

And now we have this. I can't express how upsetting it is, really. I haven't played any game since it's release. I just can't bring myself to do it. I'm at the stage now where my perspective of games and gaming has changed drastically, and I won't be nearly as invested in a game, or franchise, again.

For those who see it as overly dramatic, well, maybe it is. But respect that there are those of us out there feeling a real sense of loss.

To answer, since Space Invaders was still something you could put quarters into.  

That said, I agree.  Sure, ME1 had some rough spots (combat could be troublesome at times, either too easy, or too overwhelming in spots, repeated "enemies everywhere!" audio was obnoxious), but as an entire product, it was fantastic.  Excellent, truly epic storytelling, the galaxy had a vastness to it that ME2 and 3 do not in ANY way replicate.  Even the much-maligned Mako was something I enjoyed.  I loved the exploration.  Not just in a video game sense, but in the "This is one of the closest things I'll get to standing on an alien world, staring at an alien sun." kind of way.

2 started the downfall of turning into an ADHD hyperactive Gears of War shooter, friendly to the crowd that thinks Halo and Madden are the best things ever, and who actually say "brewski" non-ironically.

3 just made that worse. 

However, I will admit, if they were to, say, put the combat of 3, into ME1, with a comfortable merger of the Mako and Hammerhead, and bring back planetary exploration, and the vast dialogue of 1, I think that would probably be the crowning achievement of Mass Effect.

The very, very sad thing is:  That's what we were supposed to get.  That's what had been promised.  Instead, auto dialogue abounds, vehicular exploration is either permanently removed, or saved for a quickie DLC like 2, and it's mostly just a story based shooter now.

If they had taken THE very best elements of all three, you'd have an incredible game, that I think would bring back a lot of angry fans.  Solid combat, solid story, good exploration, that feeling of "this is a vast and amazing universe", good dialogue...

Ah well.  Missed opportunity.

Things like the decline of the game, rushed things, missed bugs, bugs ignored and forced through (like the face import), is just a symptom of the cancer of EA.

[PrivateJoker17]

Still no word on a patch date or what the 'fix' is actually doing, I better not have waited weeks with this game sitting next to me to then not be able to play as my Shepard anyway. If that's what happens, I'm going to release a virus into Bioware's offices.
Also, I like how Bioware has punished us for playing ME1, I guess that was stupid of us right? We all should have started our Shepards in ME2, our bad...

Modifié par PrivateJoker17, 28 mars 2012 - 09:13 .

[Simonion]

DoctorEss wrote...
That said, I agree. Sure, ME1 had some rough spots (combat could be troublesome at times, either too easy, or too overwhelming in spots, repeated "enemies everywhere!" audio was obnoxious), but as an entire product, it was fantastic. Excellent, truly epic storytelling, the galaxy had a vastness to it that ME2 and 3 do not in ANY way replicate. Even the much-maligned Mako was something I enjoyed. I loved the exploration. Not just in a video game sense, but in the "This is one of the closest things I'll get to standing on an alien world, staring at an alien sun." kind of way.

Just, yes. The exploring in the Mako was the making of the game in many ways, it genuinly felt like you were the first human to set foot on a planet further away from earth than we can currently imagine. The Geth felt like a truly menacing enemy that, while synthesizing life, were more fearsome and cold than any living mercenary group you would otherwise encounter. Many times I simply sat staring at the moon or sun on any given planet pondering if a system like it could truly exist in the universe. The galaxy felt so vast that it could easily be a replica of the actual Milky Way.

I could sit here all day and talk about the merits of the game. But unfortunately this is not the place to do so! It's nice to know someone else had a similar experience to myself, though. Here's to hoping ME3 can turn out to be a fitting conclusion to a series that set out so boldly and bravely. I still hold hope it can! Call me a fool what with all the talk of terrible endings, etc.

Modifié par Simonion, 28 mars 2012 - 09:19 .

[cApAc aMaRu]

Simonion wrote...

DoctorEss wrote...
That said, I agree. Sure, ME1 had some rough spots (combat could be troublesome at times, either too easy, or too overwhelming in spots, repeated "enemies everywhere!" audio was obnoxious), but as an entire product, it was fantastic. Excellent, truly epic storytelling, the galaxy had a vastness to it that ME2 and 3 do not in ANY way replicate. Even the much-maligned Mako was something I enjoyed. I loved the exploration. Not just in a video game sense, but in the "This is one of the closest things I'll get to standing on an alien world, staring at an alien sun." kind of way.

Just, yes. The exploring in the Mako was the making of the game in many ways, it genuinly felt like you were the first human to set foot on a planet further away from earth than we can currently imagine. The Geth felt like a truly menacing enemy that, while synthesizing life, were more fearsome and cold than any living mercenary group you would otherwise encounter. Many times I simply sat staring at the moon or sun on any given planet pondering if a system like it could truly exist in the universe. The galaxy felt so vast that it could easily be a replica of the actual Milky Way.

I could sit here all day and talk about the merits of the game. But unfortunately this is not the place to do so! It's nice to know someone else had a similar experience to myself, though. Here's to hoping ME3 can turn out to be a fitting conclusion to a series that set out so boldly and bravely. I still hold hope it can! Call me a fool what with all the talk of terrible endings, etc.

Mako is gone, RPG is gone, choice is gone, FACE is gone, WHY THE  AM I STILL HERE BIOWARE?

[DJRackham]

Much prefered running around planets in the Mako to planet scanning in ME 2

[Simonion]

cApAc aMaRu wrote...
Mako is gone, RPG is gone, choice is gone, FACE is gone, WHY THE  AM I STILL HERE BIOWARE?

Nah. While I appreciate your point, the Mako will never be gone, the RPG will never be gone. They can't take that from us, thank the lord. But sure, the face is gone. My Keanu Reeves lookalike was with me on those alien planets and battled the Geth for hours in the Mako, and on foot. So to lose him now is just not working, for me.

Fight the good fight and reclaim what is ours!

[JBauer24Tactics]

A second update here would not go amiss here, Chris.

[sic transit gloria mundi]

while(NO_PATCH)
{
waiting++;
output("\\n" + waiting + " days passed and i'm still waiting to play the f-ing game!");
}

[cApAc aMaRu]

Simonion wrote...

cApAc aMaRu wrote...
Mako is gone, RPG is gone, choice is gone, FACE is gone, WHY THE  AM I STILL HERE BIOWARE?

Nah. While I appreciate your point, the Mako will never be gone, the RPG will never be gone. They can't take that from us, thank the lord. But sure, the face is gone. My Keanu Reeves lookalike was with me on those alien planets and battled the Geth for hours in the Mako, and on foot. So to lose him now is just not working, for me.

Fight the good fight and reclaim what is ours!

Mass Effect grows less and less like why I bought it in the first place is what I'm saying. Just as well I'm getting out of it now.

[double02]

^Cya, man.

In regards to the latest udpdate: Sweet! I'm somewhat eager to compare the result of my original Shepard importation to my work-around edit of my original (which came out pretty accurate).

[cApAc aMaRu]

double02 wrote...

^Cya, man.

In regards to the latest udpdate: Sweet! I'm somewhat eager to compare the result of my original Shepard importation to my work-around edit of my original (which came out pretty accurate).

Greatness. Funny.

[Lehulk]

Today I'll reach 100% of galactic readiness while the game is still at 0% of readiness. This is a joke.

Could you at least tell us if our Shepard is going to look like the one we created in ME1 ? Because if not, we may as well give up and try to recreate it by ourselves ( not really happy with my firsts attempts though...).

A week since the last message, you must probably have an idea for a possible ETA ? Did you deliver the patch yet to Microsoft and Sony or not ?

Please ?

[ianneman]

What a lot of people seem to not understand is that there are TWO problems here.

1. People can't import their faces into ME3 in the first place. (only through a third-party programme)
2. ME3 has different facial options/features/elements than ME1 so a lot of faces come out completely different from the way they looked in ME1/ME2

Kindly read up on the issues before you start blabbing: LOL WHAT ARE YOU WHINING ABOUT I JUST IMPORTED THE CODE WITH YAML THERE IS NO PROBLEM AT ALL

[Tigercml]

DJRackham wrote...

Much prefered running around planets in the Mako to planet scanning in ME 2

Yeah I know. Who in their right mind would say " You know what would be better then driving. Boring scanning that makes you not want to play the game."

But the reason they didn't put the Mako into ME2 was because a lot of people complained about the Mako and they didn't want it in the game. So they took the Mako out and added the horrible scanning. How they thought fans would like scanning over driving is beyond me. But all in all it was the fans fault for the Mako's removal. It's like the old saying goes "If it's not broke then don't fix it" Well Bioware tried to fix it and they botched it.

Modifié par Tigercml, 29 mars 2012 - 12:36 .

[Silicon Drifter 82]

Almost day 23 and I've held off touching my game. Dunno.....if....I can hold on....

[sixthnewkid]

Lehulk wrote...

Today I'll reach 100% of galactic readiness while the game is still at 0% of readiness. This is a joke.

Could you at least tell us if our Shepard is going to look like the one we created in ME1 ? Because if not, we may as well give up and try to recreate it by ourselves ( not really happy with my firsts attempts though...).

A week since the last message, you must probably have an idea for a possible ETA ? Did you deliver the patch yet to Microsoft and Sony or not ?

Please ?

They don't care about your questions.  This thread, which is not the first one on the subject, has over 100k views and over 6k posts.  Its the busiest thread on their boards.  They respond and post all over the boards except here.  They refuse to give us the decency to answer any of our questions because they don't care.  This is a fact.  If they did then they would respond.  Remember the next time Bioware puts a game on a retail shelf, remember the broken ME3 that you can't play and keep walking.

Modifié par sixthnewkid, 29 mars 2012 - 12:53 .

[element eater]

still no news all this has achieved is i now know a whole bunch of spoilers and my interest in the game has declined, good going bioware

[bloodwar66]

I hope they fix it soon!