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[X2three]

Here's an idea for anyone with Webpage savy knowledge. Someone should build a page where the point is to have people Pledge and keep to a promise to not buy anything Bioware again>

Once built, spread the word, have people sign to it and then the numbers should demonstrate to Bioware/EA how much they stand to lose because of how they are dealing with this whole face import thing. Bioware & EA loves money and figures demonstrating facts so if the count is high enough, that might make them reconsider their treatment and bring them to the table with an apology for starters and go from there.

[sixthnewkid]

X2three wrote...

Here's an idea for anyone with Webpage savy knowledge. Someone should build a page where the point is to have people Pledge and keep to a promise to not buy anything Bioware again>

Once built, spread the word, have people sign to it and then the numbers should demonstrate to Bioware/EA how much they stand to lose because of how they are dealing with this whole face import thing. Bioware & EA loves money and figures demonstrating facts so if the count is high enough, that might make them reconsider their treatment and bring them to the table with an apology for starters and go from there.

Amen.  How flippin hard would it be for them to just communicate.  That's all we ask really, and for some reason that I cant seem to figure out, they choose not to.  Baffling

[cApAc aMaRu]

The Invisible Commando wrote...

Capac, clearly the most mad customer here, but I don't argue with your reasons. Impossible to truly defend what they done.

ME3 isn't broken, it works. Problem is the most important parts of an ME game like face imports, good ending ect has been horribly overlooked. Don't know who's at fault, but someone clearly did think that these are very big deals. Well they are to any ME fan.

Everyone should be as mad as me, at least if they want the industry to stop walking all over us. At every turn they try to strip away more of our rights as customers.

[darth shango]

I used to be an adventurer like you. Then I took an error code in the face...

[cApAc aMaRu]

darth shango wrote...

I used to be an adventurer like you. Then I took an error code in the face...

Ugh. I've seen enough Skyrim references to last a lifetime. I haven't even played it.

[Tigercml]

cApAc aMaRu wrote...

The Invisible Commando wrote...

Capac, clearly the most mad customer here, but I don't argue with your reasons. Impossible to truly defend what they done.

ME3 isn't broken, it works. Problem is the most important parts of an ME game like face imports, good ending ect has been horribly overlooked. Don't know who's at fault, but someone clearly did think that these are very big deals. Well they are to any ME fan.

Everyone should be as mad as me, at least if they want the industry to stop walking all over us. At every turn they try to strip away more of our rights as customers.

I'm with you man. I'm just as mad and disappointed at the same time.

The gaming industry is slowly digressing and it's surprising considering the new technology that developers have to work with. Games can be so great but instead most are just watered down clones of other games. If it's a 3rd person game then they try to make it just like Gears of War. And if it's 1st person then they try to make it just like Call of Duty.  And they all have to have multiplayer. RPG's are sadly slowly dying.

And the smaller or less known game developers who try to make different games get no recognition what so ever and get completly slammed by the reviewers. But the Gears and COD clones get a perfect 10 out of 10.

And now they release broken or unplayable games with a sell it now patch it later mentality. The gaming industry has taken a turn for the worst. Let's just hope that the few remaining good developers don't let us down in the future.

Modifié par Tigercml, 30 mars 2012 - 06:53 .

[Benny8484]

I cannot believe this hasn't been resolved yet....

Heres to hoping our characters actually look like they did in ME1 & ME2.  Current character creator in ME3 lacks the customization needed to do so.

[cApAc aMaRu]

Tigercml wrote...

cApAc aMaRu wrote...

The Invisible Commando wrote...

Capac, clearly the most mad customer here, but I don't argue with your reasons. Impossible to truly defend what they done.

ME3 isn't broken, it works. Problem is the most important parts of an ME game like face imports, good ending ect has been horribly overlooked. Don't know who's at fault, but someone clearly did think that these are very big deals. Well they are to any ME fan.

Everyone should be as mad as me, at least if they want the industry to stop walking all over us. At every turn they try to strip away more of our rights as customers.

I'm with you man. I'm just as mad and disappointed at the same time.

The gaming industry is slowly digressing and it's surprising considering the new technology that developers have to work with. Games can be so great but instead most are just watered down clones of other games. If it's a 3rd person game then they try to make it just like Gears of War. And if it's 1st person then they try to make it just like Call of Duty.  And they all have to have multiplayer. RPG's are sadly slowly dying.

And the smaller or less known game developers who try to make different games get no recognition what so ever and get completly slammed by the reviewers. But the Gears and COD clones get a perfect 10 out of 10.

And now they release broken or unplayable games with a sell it now patch it later mentality. The gaming industry has taken a turn for the worst. Let's just hope that the few remaining good developers don't let us down in the future.

Between hardware failure rates like Microsoft and software failure rates like EA... 

[Topcat9o]

sixthnewkid wrote...

X2three wrote...

Here's an idea for anyone with Webpage savy knowledge. Someone should build a page where the point is to have people Pledge and keep to a promise to not buy anything Bioware again>

Once built, spread the word, have people sign to it and then the numbers should demonstrate to Bioware/EA how much they stand to lose because of how they are dealing with this whole face import thing. Bioware & EA loves money and figures demonstrating facts so if the count is high enough, that might make them reconsider their treatment and bring them to the table with an apology for starters and go from there.

Amen.  How flippin hard would it be for them to just communicate.  That's all we ask really, and for some reason that I cant seem to figure out, they choose not to.  Baffling

They're probably to busy dealing with people complaining about being banned from Origin. Someone started a thread asking if they would get banned for modding single player. 3 days later someone from Bioware told them "We are only taking action against players who modify their multiplayer game". 9 days after that someone else from Bioware posted "To confirm YES you will be banned for modifying single player". And immediately locked the thred. So on top of not spending enough time to keep their fans up to date on major issues, they also disagree on how/why Origin bans you.

Modifié par Topcat9o, 30 mars 2012 - 07:12 .

[Snoozems7]

In their defense, there isn't much they can really keep reporting on if they don't have anything new. It would be just as frustrating if Priestly kept chiming in with, 'it's in progress' every couple of days.

We know the patch exists and they are working on it. Hell, we even know the issue itself has actually been resolved. It's not like they have gotten half-way through and thought, 'screw it, don't bother with it, just let them be peeved'.

They never should have released the game with this issue, that is irrefutable, but they have. Either way, I really don't think it will take much longer. Probably by the end of next week.

[StephanieBengal]

Snoozems7 wrote...

In their defense, there isn't much they can really keep reporting on if they don't have anything new. It would be just as frustrating if Priestly kept chiming in with, 'it's in progress' every couple of days.

We know the patch exists and they are working on it. Hell, we even know the issue itself has actually been resolved. It's not like they have gotten half-way through and thought, 'screw it, don't bother with it, just let them be peeved'.

They never should have released the game with this issue, that is irrefutable, but they have. Either way, I really don't think it will take much longer. Probably by the end of next week.

Bingo, that **** pisses me the hell off so much...

[Inquisitor Recon]

Patch by next week? Maybe?

[Topcat9o]

Snoozems7 wrote...

In their defense, there isn't much they can really keep reporting on if they don't have anything new. It would be just as frustrating if Priestly kept chiming in with, 'it's in progress' every couple of days.

We know the patch exists and they are working on it. Hell, we even know the issue itself has actually been resolved. It's not like they have gotten half-way through and thought, 'screw it, don't bother with it, just let them be peeved'.

They never should have released the game with this issue, that is irrefutable, but they have. Either way, I really don't think it will take much longer. Probably by the end of next week.

Yes that's true, but they haven't apologized for the mistake, they haven't explained how the bug got through QA, they haven't told us how the issue as been resolved and they've had someone who isn't even involved come in, during his free time, to give us company lines instead of dealing with it themselves.

Modifié par Topcat9o, 30 mars 2012 - 07:23 .

[Snoozems7]

Topcat9o wrote...

Yes that's true, but they haven't apologized for the mistake, they haven't explained how the bug got through QA, they haven't told us how the issue as been resolved and they've had someone who isn't even involved come in, during his free time, to give us company lines instead of dealing with it themselves.

I think we all have an idea why it got through QA. Being able to import characters from the previous two games is Mass Effect's primary feature. There is no way they didn't know about the issue - they simply released it regardless. Probably because they knew the game would still be playable, so it wasn't as desparately important as it might have otherwise been.

That doesn't justify their doing so by any means, that's not what I'm trying to say. We're not going to get the answers we want, and I think you guys know that already. Even if we did, nobody would like what they have to say, so why bother with the aggravation? We're not going to sweep through the gaming industry and right all of its wrongs.

I understand completely why people are angry, but it's wasted energy and time.

[mybudgee]

NEXT WEEK!? MUTHAF*UCKA!!!

Modifié par mybudgee, 30 mars 2012 - 07:37 .

[FutureBoy81]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO FIX YET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, my trilogy is incomplete without this feature ......

[cApAc aMaRu]

Snoozems7 wrote...

Topcat9o wrote...

Yes that's true, but they haven't apologized for the mistake, they haven't explained how the bug got through QA, they haven't told us how the issue as been resolved and they've had someone who isn't even involved come in, during his free time, to give us company lines instead of dealing with it themselves.

I think we all have an idea why it got through QA. Being able to import characters from the previous two games is Mass Effect's primary feature. There is no way they didn't know about the issue - they simply released it regardless. Probably because they knew the game would still be playable, so it wasn't as desparately important as it might have otherwise been.

That doesn't justify their doing so by any means, that's not what I'm trying to say. We're not going to get the answers we want, and I think you guys know that already. Even if we did, nobody would like what they have to say, so why bother with the aggravation? We're not going to sweep through the gaming industry and right all of its wrongs.

I understand completely why people are angry, but it's wasted energy and time.

The reason why it got through is the complete lack of regard and repsect for the people that made the series successful in the first place. Basically EA have USED the goodwill for the series generated by the people who loved Mass Effect and used it as a tool to sucker in the 'hurr space 3rd person cover shooter' crowd, creating a Frankenstein's monster of a series that has let down the people that really care about it in favour of the vacuous shooter crwod who will play it for a few months then move on to the next shooter.

[Snoozems7]

cApAc aMaRu wrote...

Snoozems7 wrote...

Topcat9o wrote...

Yes that's true, but they haven't apologized for the mistake, they haven't explained how the bug got through QA, they haven't told us how the issue as been resolved and they've had someone who isn't even involved come in, during his free time, to give us company lines instead of dealing with it themselves.

I think we all have an idea why it got through QA. Being able to import characters from the previous two games is Mass Effect's primary feature. There is no way they didn't know about the issue - they simply released it regardless. Probably because they knew the game would still be playable, so it wasn't as desparately important as it might have otherwise been.

That doesn't justify their doing so by any means, that's not what I'm trying to say. We're not going to get the answers we want, and I think you guys know that already. Even if we did, nobody would like what they have to say, so why bother with the aggravation? We're not going to sweep through the gaming industry and right all of its wrongs.

I understand completely why people are angry, but it's wasted energy and time.

The reason why it got through is the complete lack of regard and repsect for the people that made the series successful in the first place. Basically EA have USED the goodwill for the series generated by the people who loved Mass Effect and used it as a tool to sucker in the 'hurr space 3rd person cover shooter' crowd, creating a Frankenstein's monster of a series that has let down the people that really care about it in favour of the vacuous shooter crwod who will play it for a few months then move on to the next shooter.

I'm not sure it's quite as ominous and dramatic as that. At least as far as the patch goes.

They wanted to get the game out, so they cut a corner, which they undoubtedly shouldn't have and it is disrespectful as you said. But I'd wager the majority of people playing ME3 are fans of the series, not the shooter nuts.

Obviously you're talking about more than the patch though, and because I haven't finished the game yet I don't know what all of the hubbub is around the ending, so I can't comment on that.

Modifié par Snoozems7, 30 mars 2012 - 08:22 .

[chainsawgutsfuck]

DoctorEss wrote...

See, that's where you're wrong.  Again, I don't reward failure.  Giving them more money just lets them know that they can screw up this badly, and still get people to give them money anyway.  So, no.  It wouldn't give me a "higher chance" of buying DLC.  I'm fairly certain I know my own purchasing habits more than you.  

Regardless of apology or anything else, there's a thing called "too little, too late".  Bioware is, right now, in the land of too little, too late.

The "debacle" of DA2?  Ohhh, that explains a lot.  You're one of *those*.  DA:O is not Baldur's Gate 3.  That's most people's first problem.  DA2 is not, and was never meant to be DA:O2.  Too many people assumed DA was going to be another ME styled series, where you carry your character on.  Bioware never SAID that it was, but people just assumed, and got disappointed over their assumption being wrong, and began to convince themselves that they were promised something that was never even said.

DA was meant to be a collection of stories of Ferelden (and such).  Different characters, different places, different protagonist.  Just taking place in the same world.  DA2 is a perfectly acceptable game, it takes place in the same world, and fixes a lot of the horrid flaws of DA:O that it's fanboys seem to refuse to acknowledge.  Horrible animations, for one, such as the "hunchback walk".  The sloooooooooooooooooow combat, for another.  The (incredibly dated) mute protagonist problem.

Thing is, again, DA2 was not supposed to be Origins 2.  Before you even let the words "reused areas" move from your brain to your fingertips to your keyboard, go replay ME1.  Fantastic game, right?  Reused more areas than DA2.  At least DA2 had the decency to rearrange the doors, accessible areas.  Every single underground base in ME1 is identical.  Every single mineshaft is identical.  Every single internal above-ground building?  Yep, you guessed it.  Identical.

I cannot even begin to count how many times the same three areas (mine, underground facility, aboveground building) were reused in ME1, but I guarantee you, more times than you saw reused areas in DA2.

90% of the hate for DA2 is manufactured bandwagoning.  If you went into it expecting another game in the same world as DA:O, you had no problem with it.  If you went into it expecting Baldur's Gate 3 1/2, or DA:O2, you got disappointed.

What do you mean *those*? See, call me naive or ignorant, but if i've played a game called Dragon Age: Origins, and the same company brings out a game called Dragon Age 2, I will naturally assume it's either a sequel or a continuation of the storyline... hence "Dragon Age 2", and not "Dragon Age: Hawke Rising" or "Dragon Age: What's It All Aboot?".

Mass Effect 1 reuses areas in a sensible, tasteful way that doesn't feel lazy - DA2 is literally the exact same area, same map, just set during the day or at night with a handful of different enemies - ME1 will reuse something like a spaceport, a facility layout, a settlement... because we assume that whoever designed these things in the first place planned to have more than one in the known galaxy and it's probably easier to mass produce from the same blueprint than hire some rennaisance architects to create thousands of random structures. ME2 was an alright sequel, but certainly downgraded a lot of things I felt made ME1 as engaging as it is.

I'll admit it, I was expecting a game something like DA:O2. Because of that, I was disappointed. The only thing I liked about DA2 was the combat, the rest was pretty much baleful retcons, an over-simplified 13 year old-friendly interface and the sort of storyline that you'd read in a children's book. Ah... you're one of *those*.

I don't mind a muted protagonist - it lets you roleplay as them more easily (see  "role-playing games"). The combat wasn't slow, it looked fairly realistic as far as the melee combat goes. I don't need to be a super Samurai warrior doing absurd flips and fancy spins, that's just for the cool kids who try to breakdance. And what's wrong with hunchbacked walks? Most people I know don't walk like Brazilian supermodels or Hollywood actors, I wouldn't expect any of that from a battle veteran who's been infused with demonic blood, just like i'm not one of those cretins that plays a game like Skyrim as a nude Elf with a single leather belt covering up their modesty.

You remind me why I don't bother posting on here!

Modifié par chainsawgutsfuck, 30 mars 2012 - 08:49 .

[Lion Martinez]

Good morning all,

I'm very sorry that this is dragging on and that we don't have any new information for you at this point. I wish we did. As mentioned I don't expect your frustration to simply go away because I post this and you are still entitled to voice your opinion until we can provide a solution.

When we DO have more information, we will make sure to deliver it.

[cApAc aMaRu]

Snoozems7 wrote...

cApAc aMaRu wrote...

Snoozems7 wrote...

Topcat9o wrote...

Yes that's true, but they haven't apologized for the mistake, they haven't explained how the bug got through QA, they haven't told us how the issue as been resolved and they've had someone who isn't even involved come in, during his free time, to give us company lines instead of dealing with it themselves.

I think we all have an idea why it got through QA. Being able to import characters from the previous two games is Mass Effect's primary feature. There is no way they didn't know about the issue - they simply released it regardless. Probably because they knew the game would still be playable, so it wasn't as desparately important as it might have otherwise been.

That doesn't justify their doing so by any means, that's not what I'm trying to say. We're not going to get the answers we want, and I think you guys know that already. Even if we did, nobody would like what they have to say, so why bother with the aggravation? We're not going to sweep through the gaming industry and right all of its wrongs.

I understand completely why people are angry, but it's wasted energy and time.

The reason why it got through is the complete lack of regard and repsect for the people that made the series successful in the first place. Basically EA have USED the goodwill for the series generated by the people who loved Mass Effect and used it as a tool to sucker in the 'hurr space 3rd person cover shooter' crowd, creating a Frankenstein's monster of a series that has let down the people that really care about it in favour of the vacuous shooter crwod who will play it for a few months then move on to the next shooter.

I'm not sure it's quite as ominous and dramatic as that. At least as far as the patch goes.

They wanted to get the game out, so they cut a corner, which they undoubtedly shouldn't have and it is disrespectful as you said. But I'd wager the majority of people playing ME3 are fans of the series, not the shooter nuts.

Obviously you're talking about more than the patch though, and because I haven't finished the game yet I don't know what all of the hubbub is around the ending, so I can't comment on that.

EA only cares about anything as far as they can squeeze the money out of it. That is much easier to do in multiplayer. Hence EA doesn't care about SP.

[Loegi]

Lion Martinez wrote...

Good morning all,

I'm very sorry that this is dragging on and that we don't have any new information for you at this point. I wish we did. As mentioned I don't expect your frustration to simply go away because I post this and you are still entitled to voice your opinion until we can provide a solution.

When we DO have more information, we will make sure to deliver it.

Bioware should really let some developers post here, or be more open to community moderators. But noooo, people could take the information wrong etc. etc.

[cApAc aMaRu]

Lion Martinez wrote...

Good morning all,

I'm very sorry that this is dragging on and that we don't have any new information for you at this point. I wish we did. As mentioned I don't expect your frustration to simply go away because I post this and you are still entitled to voice your opinion until we can provide a solution.

When we DO have more information, we will make sure to deliver it.

Thats ok Martinez. We know no one else at your company feels that way, but we appreciate your concern. Dealing with cupcakes is clearly more important than us.

[cApAc aMaRu]

Loegi wrote...

Lion Martinez wrote...

Good morning all,

I'm very sorry that this is dragging on and that we don't have any new information for you at this point. I wish we did. As mentioned I don't expect your frustration to simply go away because I post this and you are still entitled to voice your opinion until we can provide a solution.

When we DO have more information, we will make sure to deliver it.

Bioware should really let some developers post here, or be more open to community moderators. But noooo, people could take the information wrong etc. etc.

That's because we are all children. Videogames are only played by children. Especially videogames restricted to people over 15 in my country, played by 29 year olds like myself.

[SoulShadowX]

It's nice to see that i'm not the only one who is upset about this. I just want to say to bioware that i was looking forward to this game for a long time and even more when the day came to pre-order the N7 Edition. I get home and i import my character only to see that it is some weird looking guy that doesn't look remotely close to what i had in part 1 & 2. so for weeks now i've been forced to stay away from forums, friends who play this game and anything that is ME3 related so that the story doesn't get ruined and it is quite hard to do seeing as parts of the story are starting to reach me some how some way and its being ruined. i find it very unfair that majority of the mass effect community was able to enjoy the game in its entirety while i'm still waiting on that amazing gaming experience that was told we would be able to engage on when the game released. i know you guys are working on the solution and a lot of companies would take their sweet time or none at all to do anything about it so with that i say thank you BUT having to have waited this long to play the campaign is starting to get ruined for me. i know it was my choice to wait it out but at the same time it shouldn't have been a choice for anyone to make. every person who owns this game should have been able right then and there. i want to know is all your doing for those that had to go through this is just make the patch and call it a day or are we going to see something good come our way for the major inconvenience. now im not looking for a big DLC content or anything like that to come our way but maybe like an "apology coupon" sorta speak. like a really really good weapon pack/armor or something to show that, hey this was our bad and that you can be like hope this makes it up and helps make your long awaited game experience in the campaign worth while. I hope someone takes the time out to read this and consider what was said here. I love the ME franchise and hope i can continue to support it but don't make us afraid to give you our money so that you guys can continue your amazing work. I thank you for your time Bioware.