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Issue importing faces into Mass Effect 3 Updated March 21


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obie191970 wrote...

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What I'm afraid of is that some irreversible decision in technology used will make a fix impossible. As I said, I do not believe one bit that they missed this problem. That would be test case #1 for any quality assurance team. This means they've know about it for a while. That they chanced their core fanbase not noticing and accepting this crap tells me they have no solution. I hope I'm wrong.


There are a bunch of things that people have complained about and Bioware has come out and said "Sorry, that's the way it is."  Holstering, gamepad support on PC, etc.  With them saying they're working on it, I'm hopeful for a fix.

I am too. I think they might at least offer us something and for that I am very hopeful.

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Can't believe it takes such a long time for them to fix it. I mean, such a important thing should surely have been perfect.

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This is a huge deal breaker for me, I'll be holding out on buying it (released on Friday here) until it's fixed.

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obie191970 wrote...

VileQuasar wrote...

What I'm afraid of is that some irreversible decision in technology used will make a fix impossible. As I said, I do not believe one bit that they missed this problem. That would be test case #1 for any quality assurance team. This means they've know about it for a while. That they chanced their core fanbase not noticing and accepting this crap tells me they have no solution. I hope I'm wrong.


There are a bunch of things that people have complained about and Bioware has come out and said "Sorry, that's the way it is."  Holstering, gamepad support on PC, etc.  With them saying they're working on it, I'm hopeful for a fix.


The problem is those issues are arguably justafiable. This is a bug out-and-out, not something they would do intentionally. I don't think they'd say "Yeah we're not going to fix it" even if they had no plan to fix it.

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Druscylla wrote...

I am totally forgiving of the new graphics. I dislike it compared to ME2 but that's my issue not theirs. I don't get an error when importing. I get a default face. I cannot wait till this is fixed. Hopefully it can be. Till then, I am shelving this game. I too am surprised how sad this makes me.

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The closest I can get looks pretty good in-game without using any user made tools... But without her purple eyes she ain't my Shep.
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Just a small recommendation, but the eyes on your ME3 Shep look just a little farther apart than those of your ME1 & 2 Shep's. Could just be angle, though :D

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obie191970 wrote...

VileQuasar wrote...

What I'm afraid of is that some irreversible decision in technology used will make a fix impossible. As I said, I do not believe one bit that they missed this problem. That would be test case #1 for any quality assurance team. This means they've know about it for a while. That they chanced their core fanbase not noticing and accepting this crap tells me they have no solution. I hope I'm wrong.


There are a bunch of things that people have complained about and Bioware has come out and said "Sorry, that's the way it is."  Holstering, gamepad support on PC, etc.  With them saying they're working on it, I'm hopeful for a fix.


By working on it they probably mean there's 1 person spending maybe an hour a day on it...  BW just isn't the company that many of us fell in love with.

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Daeion wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

VileQuasar wrote...

What I'm afraid of is that some irreversible decision in technology used will make a fix impossible. As I said, I do not believe one bit that they missed this problem. That would be test case #1 for any quality assurance team. This means they've know about it for a while. That they chanced their core fanbase not noticing and accepting this crap tells me they have no solution. I hope I'm wrong.


There are a bunch of things that people have complained about and Bioware has come out and said "Sorry, that's the way it is."  Holstering, gamepad support on PC, etc.  With them saying they're working on it, I'm hopeful for a fix.


By working on it they probably mean there's 1 person spending maybe an hour a day on it...  BW just isn't the company that many of us fell in love with.


You're right, and it's probably the line cook from the kitchen on his break.....

C'mon, please be serious.

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Druscylla wrote...

I am totally forgiving of the new graphics. I dislike it compared to ME2 but that's my issue not theirs. I don't get an error when importing. I get a default face. I cannot wait till this is fixed. Hopefully it can be. Till then, I am shelving this game. I too am surprised how sad this makes me.

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The closest I can get looks pretty good in-game without using any user made tools... But without her purple eyes she ain't my Shep.
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I feel you... My Shep came out with the wrong hair, different eyes, and a totally differently shaped head.

Did you consider using the default FemShep model? She looks quite a bit like your Shepard. Just saying.

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This is a huge deal breaker for me, I'll be holding out on buying it (released on Friday here) until it's fixed.


MP is actually VERY good if you've got the right people. Once I learned I couldn't import my Shep propery, I spent my first 12 hours or so with the game in MP and my Galactic Readiness Level was @ 100%.

It's probably dropped a bit since then, but it's a great game mode and you could easily fill the time waiting for a patch by playing it, raising your GRL, and unlocking characters and weapons. Posted Image

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This is an absolute deal breaker for me.

Either give me MY Shepard back, or give me my money back. Without it fixed, it's not the experience I signed up for. I was promised something that wasn't in the least bit delivered. Something this major should have been fixed before it went gold, or at least immediately after, and prepped for a release day patch.

The fact that we were told it was "just the demo" and other stuff like that was only to make sure they got those release day sales.

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 Tried to play after recreating face. It's look same but a little different. So I cannot play. I know that it's not same Shepard that I played whole 4 years before. Argghhh. I'm wating patch. 
And how this BUG passed throught testing?

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Sorry for bad english.

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Druscylla wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

VileQuasar wrote...

What I'm afraid of is that some irreversible decision in technology used will make a fix impossible. As I said, I do not believe one bit that they missed this problem. That would be test case #1 for any quality assurance team. This means they've know about it for a while. That they chanced their core fanbase not noticing and accepting this crap tells me they have no solution. I hope I'm wrong.


There are a bunch of things that people have complained about and Bioware has come out and said "Sorry, that's the way it is."  Holstering, gamepad support on PC, etc.  With them saying they're working on it, I'm hopeful for a fix.

I am too. I think they might at least offer us something and for that I am very hopeful.


Don't hold your breath.  BW's responce will be that the game still works and that's what matters...

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VileQuasar wrote...

What I'm afraid of is that some irreversible decision in technology used will make a fix impossible. As I said, I do not believe one bit that they missed this problem. That would be test case #1 for any quality assurance team. This means they've know about it for a while. That they chanced their core fanbase not noticing and accepting this crap tells me they have no solution. I hope I'm wrong.

I hope you're wrong too, but I'm pretty sure you're right. This isn't a simple coding error. The character creator has been drastically changed. In its current form, my Shepard cannot be remade.

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If this supposed patch isn't out before the UK release than it's just not coming out.

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obie191970 wrote...

Daeion wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

VileQuasar wrote...

What I'm afraid of is that some irreversible decision in technology used will make a fix impossible. As I said, I do not believe one bit that they missed this problem. That would be test case #1 for any quality assurance team. This means they've know about it for a while. That they chanced their core fanbase not noticing and accepting this crap tells me they have no solution. I hope I'm wrong.


There are a bunch of things that people have complained about and Bioware has come out and said "Sorry, that's the way it is."  Holstering, gamepad support on PC, etc.  With them saying they're working on it, I'm hopeful for a fix.


By working on it they probably mean there's 1 person spending maybe an hour a day on it...  BW just isn't the company that many of us fell in love with.


You're right, and it's probably the line cook from the kitchen on his break.....

C'mon, please be serious.


I am serious, the fact that this wasn't caught and fixed in testing shows that they don't care.  There's no way something this big made it through testing and cert without someone pointing it out.  Add to it that since last week people have been bringing this issue up and it's still not fixed pretty much tells you BW's stance on it.  When something is important enough, you get it fixed right away regardless of howmany people you need to bring in to fix it.

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Hope this get fixed by Friday for the UK release date.

I'm getting paranoid now about my Shep's face coming out crooked :(

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lostmercenary99 wrote...

Hope this get fixed by Friday for the UK release date.

I'm getting paranoid now about my Shep's face coming out crooked :(


Not a chance.  It's going to require a patch which means it needs to go through Sony/MS/EA first.

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I'm honestly afraid to go any further in the game because, aside from my Shepard looking strange, so does everyone else. The textures seem much higher this time around, but everything else looks horrid.

I really don't want to see familiar faces from ME2 with disgusting complexion and blocky cheeks like everyone else I've seen so far.

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Honestly, a patch to fix this issue is probably going to be a major undertaking. Like...re-introducing the missing art assets or creating them to place them in. If Bioware is willing to commit to that I'd be thrilled. But seeing as how the game was tested, went gold, had a demo and was put on shelves in this state I'm not holding my breath.

It could be the most amazing game in the history of games, and this issue would still make it unplayable for me.

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Bioware have said that they were working on a patch to help import Mass Effect 1 Shepards into ME 3.

Does anyone know if it would be even possible to fix Shepards that were using different character model assets in ME 2 and ME 3? What happened to all the missing stuff?

Because getting your Mass Effect 1 Shepards to import won't help much if they import incomplete or incorrect like many Mass Effect 2 Shepards do.

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Bioware have said that they were working on a patch to help import Mass Effect 1 Shepards into ME 3.

Does anyone know if it would be even possible to fix Shepards that were using different character model assets in ME 2 and ME 3? What happened to all the missing stuff?

Because getting your Mass Effect 1 Shepards to import won't help much if they import incomplete or incorrect like many Mass Effect 2 Shepards do.


Most of the stuff present have simply been updated to look more realistic and such, but a lot of things have been shuffled around and removed entirely - making this a very real issue.

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I wouldn't hold my breath on there being a fix by Friday... but that doesn't mean there won't ever be one. If their whole plan was to just ignore the problem entirely, they wouldn't of made an official thread claiming they were looking into it, would they? Especially since this is before the European release... if they were trying to sweep this under the rug, in the hopes of conning people out of their money, I'd think they would have tried to keep this quiet until the game was already out everywhere, and they already got everyone's money. Since they officially acknowledged there is a problem, though, and before the game is even out over there... I'm willing to at least hope they come up with a patch. (Mind you, though, if I hadn't had a CE on pre-order, I would not have bought the game yet at all. So, if you're only getting the standard edition, and this is a serious concern for you... I'd say wait until it's fixed to buy your copy of the game. Sales numbers matter, after all.)

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Still can't understand why this was never tested

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Bioware have said that they were working on a patch to help import Mass Effect 1 Shepards into ME 3.

Does anyone know if it would be even possible to fix Shepards that were using different character model assets in ME 2 and ME 3? What happened to all the missing stuff?

Because getting your Mass Effect 1 Shepards to import won't help much if they import incomplete or incorrect like many Mass Effect 2 Shepards do.


Would it be possible? Of course. Everything's possible with some effort.
How much work would it entail? Uncertain. It depends on how much relies on the animation controls in the newer, more expensive face rigs.
Will they do it? I'm starting to think it's unlikely. It'd probably be much more work than they would think was worth it or justifiable.

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Yuoaman wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Bioware have said that they were working on a patch to help import Mass Effect 1 Shepards into ME 3.

Does anyone know if it would be even possible to fix Shepards that were using different character model assets in ME 2 and ME 3? What happened to all the missing stuff?

Because getting your Mass Effect 1 Shepards to import won't help much if they import incomplete or incorrect like many Mass Effect 2 Shepards do.


Most of the stuff present have simply been updated to look more realistic and such, but a lot of things have been shuffled around and removed entirely - making this a very real issue.


Why would they do that? I obvioulsy know nothing about programing but It almost seems like that would be more work in order to create a problem than just leaving in all old character creator assets in there. I did notice they added a few in, but they actually seem less realistic than the ones they took out. Like bright red eyes that look like they came from TOR.