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Issue importing faces into Mass Effect 3 Updated March 21


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lillitheris

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Link to woodbyte's post referenced above, page 295 with standard paging.

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mlouden03 wrote...

EsSeven wrote...

Just received confirmation via Twitter; sadly the incoming fix probably won't add back the removed hairstyles/colours.

I guess it's only for cases where people were receiving an actual error message.



Well will those people have their old sheps? or what?


I guess if your old Shep has been rocking a customisation option that Bioware (for reasons that shall remain known to them and them alone) decided to remove for the final game of the trilogy, you're bang out of luck and will never be able to create them properly in Mass Effect 3.

I was planning on researching and creating a small mod to allow players like myself to import over the old hairstyles that have been removed (original default Femshep), with an updated mesh and texture, but a friend has just informed me that doing so could lead to my Origin account being banned.

Come back, Jane! I really miss you. :(

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Modifié par EsSeven, 08 avril 2012 - 08:08 .


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Finally I can have an actual save file from the game instead of just the DLC and the Normandy prop for my avatar from day one :)

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EsSeven wrote...
I was planning on researching and creating a small mod to allow players like myself to import over the old hairstyles that have been removed (original default Femshep), with an updated mesh and texture, but a friend has just informed me that doing so could lead to my Origin account being banned.


I guess custom meshes could mess with collision detection so disallowing that in multiplayer might make sense.

But even so, you could just keep the old meshes and textures around and swap them back whenever you want to play multiplayer. That's definitely declared to be OK. (I can dig up the thread where this was confirmed if needed.)

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lillitheris wrote...
As far as the problem with facial animations, I'm not sure why it would be a problem. Or, of course, it would need to be added/retrofitted/remodeled and that requires resources – but I don't think there's a technological reason why it couldn't be done. Hell, I'd be happy with no animations…


I'd be happy with the meshes, shapes, features and animation of both body and face that we had in ME2. I didn't have a problem with that. I don't see why they had to change it, and change it for the worse. Even if the changes to the looks were supposed to make FemShep more feminine, anything to that effect is ruined by the o-legged stomping and the constant scowl.


Maybe they built it around their new default Femshep, to make her look good? Which would be just another fail, because that would be marketing and PR at all costs, especially at the expense of loyal fans'/players' experience.

Modifié par Kya, 08 avril 2012 - 12:25 .


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Kya wrote...

Thanks for the link to the face mesh discussion thread.

Found a post there that explains why what we want most likely won't be:

 http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11073023/6#11137345

It's also this that actually makes 'recreating' our Shepards impossible. So will those who claim it is possible please shut up.


Except, as I understand it, if ME3 takes the raw data from the ME2 face, it would theoretically be possible for Bioware to insert code that remaps the face so it looks the same (see the post by woodbyte on page 295, linked to at the top of this page).  This means the biggest issue is whether Bioware actually bothered themselves to do this or not.  Considering that people have asked the question as to whether this fix sorts this problem quite a considerable number of times, and we have utterly failed to get any definite answer from Bioware at all, and no answer whatsoever in this thread, I am not at all hopeful that they did.  But I guess we'll see for sure tomorrow or the day after.

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EsSeven wrote...

mlouden03 wrote...

EsSeven wrote...

Just received confirmation via Twitter; sadly the incoming fix probably won't add back the removed hairstyles/colours.

I guess it's only for cases where people were receiving an actual error message.



Well will those people have their old sheps? or what?


I guess if your old Shep has been rocking a customisation option that Bioware (for reasons that shall remain known to them and them alone) decided to remove for the final game of the trilogy, you're bang out of luck and will never be able to create them properly in Mass Effect 3.

I was planning on researching and creating a small mod to allow players like myself to import over the old hairstyles that have been removed (original default Femshep), with an updated mesh and texture, but a friend has just informed me that doing so could lead to my Origin account being banned.

Come back, Jane! I really miss you. :(

http://api.ning.com/...=737&height=414


I'm sharing everybodies pessimism that the patch won't fix everything. I want Jane back the way she was. Exactly the way she was. Hair included, I don't care about any hairdressers appointment.

If I do not see her with the same face, hair or eyes I am not going to play this game as I would not be able to bear it. I'm not trying to be melodramatic here.


EDIT: On second thought, why would changing anything in the game lead to being banned from MP? Have developers gone so far that we are not allowed to mod games?

Modifié par Da-Fort, 08 avril 2012 - 01:26 .


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lillitheris wrote...

EsSeven wrote...
I was planning on researching and creating a small mod to allow players like myself to import over the old hairstyles that have been removed (original default Femshep), with an updated mesh and texture, but a friend has just informed me that doing so could lead to my Origin account being banned.


I guess custom meshes could mess with collision detection so disallowing that in multiplayer might make sense.

But even so, you could just keep the old meshes and textures around and swap them back whenever you want to play multiplayer. That's definitely declared to be OK. (I can dig up the thread where this was confirmed if needed.)


There was a thread about modding single player where someone from Bioware said single player was allowed but not multiplayer, but then someone else came in and said that ANY modification would result in a ban then locked the thread.

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Topcat9o wrote...

There was a thread about modding single player where someone from Bioware said single player was allowed but not multiplayer, but then someone else came in and said that ANY modification would result in a ban then locked the thread.


I think that was contradicted by Patrick (?) later, will have to dig up threads. Wish we didn't have to deal with this nonsense, though…MP is a plague.

(Although I must note that in EU they basically aren't allowed to tell you you can't modify it for single player.)

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So... patch is coming, endings will still be derp, EA planting PR in PAX audiences to provide the RIGHT claps...

This is getting worse, not better.

Expect Priestly to shut down the thread soon because it 'isn't needed'

Possibly BEFORE the patch drops if he's in a particularly evil mood.

Still no info on what is actually fixed, DESPITE patch notes.

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Kinda upset I wont get my flat top for shep when Bailey has it...

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I know it's kinda offtopic, but... has any1 heard about this "Extended Cut DLC"? It's messed up! They want to dis all INTELLIGENT theories like this "Indoctrinated Shepard" etc. and just replace them with the same bulls**t they gave is, but with more cutscenes? What the F?! Is it just me, or all these "Free DLC's" and "extended cuts" are just Damage Control actions, because EA is "The Worst Company in America" according to theconsumerist.com?

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Da-Fort wrote...

I'm sharing everybodies pessimism that the patch won't fix everything. I want Jane back the way she was. Exactly the way she was. Hair included, I don't care about any hairdressers appointment.

If I do not see her with the same face, hair or eyes I am not going to play this game as I would not be able to bear it. I'm not trying to be melodramatic here.


It is pretty tough. I haven't been able to really get into the game, as my character seems more like a 'lookalike' than the same one I have played as many times before. I guess it effects some people more than others, but I'm one of those it's had a huge impact on.

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i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr282/Johnick/Femshep.jpg

I miss my ME2 Femshep :(

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Tomorrow is the day PC players get it I guess right? They can let all us console guys know if it worked and what we can expect...

Side note - Happy Easter to everyone, if you don't celebrate simply have a good day!

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Happy hard-boiled-eggs-and-chocolate-rabbits-for-Jesus-not-dying-day!
:?

Modifié par mybudgee, 08 avril 2012 - 06:54 .


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Hi I see we have new ppl here from another topic. Welcome to the club :)

I have posted this before but have no time to go back 300 pages :P

This is my Me1 Shepard and Me 2 . I recreated her again in ME 2 and almost exactly had the same face with a face code.. But when i import her to ME3 with exactly the same facecode i see a complete stranger. So i think both issues ( cannot import face) and Shepard in me3 looks different is all the same issue. If the patch is made this way that the missing assets are back in Me3 then all problems are solved (I Hope so)
Me1

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Me2

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Import window ME2

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Me 3 trying to import from the above gives->
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After creating a code ( lost the screenshot) this iss what ME3 makes of it.
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well tomorrow i will see what happens... I sincerly hope that all is fixed!

Take Care
Signing of to have sleep ( alarm goes in 7 hours) working day
Regards from The Netherlands

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If you search on modding you'll get results. The main topic is here->

http://social.biowar.../index/10759911

As far as i understood Origin is scanning on a modified coalbin file and if it is detected there will be problems ( in MP) if you mod at  MP  you have to put the unmodded original files bach. ( i dont exactly know the hows and why's but they are explained in the topics i gave u. As far as i understood a Modded file in SP can be done as long as you play the game in OFF line Origin modus.

both SP and MP use the same game files.

Take Care i really have to go and sleep now.


lillitheris wrote...

EsSeven wrote...
I was planning on researching and creating a small mod to allow players like myself to import over the old hairstyles that have been removed (original default Femshep), with an updated mesh and texture, but a friend has just informed me that doing so could lead to my Origin account being banned.


I guess custom meshes could mess with collision detection so disallowing that in multiplayer might make sense.

But even so, you could just keep the old meshes and textures around and swap them back whenever you want to play multiplayer. That's definitely declared to be OK. (I can dig up the thread where this was confirmed if needed.)


Modifié par Emphyr, 08 avril 2012 - 07:52 .


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Thanks for the information, Emphyr.

There is still hope!

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ADULAH AKBAR! lol jk the patch is coming tmrw guys and gals :D

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Ramir3zPL wrote...

I know it's kinda offtopic, but... blah blah minor spoilers in a non spoiler board.


Dude, it's massively off topic. And you posted something akin to spoilers on a non-spoiler message board. Please just leave if you can't contribute.

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Emphyr wrote...

If you search on modding you'll get results. The main topic is here->

http://social.biowar.../index/10759911

As far as i understood Origin is scanning on a modified coalbin file and if it is detected there will be problems ( in MP) if you mod at  MP  you have to put the unmodded original files bach. ( i dont exactly know the hows and why's but they are explained in the topics i gave u. As far as i understood a Modded file in SP can be done as long as you play the game in OFF line Origin modus.


Sorry I took long to dig this up, it's in fact in that very thread. Here's the ‘final word’ on modding

Thomas Abram (staff) said:

As mentioned by Scylla, you will not be banned for modifying your files
*unless (and this is where my intention was) they give you an unfair
advantage in any multiplayer aspect of the game.


Of course, that still leaves it open as to whether some automated scan might lock you if it detects mesh modification even if you don't use it in MP (unlikely), but you can request an unlock if that does happen.



Touching upon that off-topic, I was a little amused that a good half of the topics themselves on the General board had some kind of a spoiler in them, let alone their contents… :)

Modifié par lillitheris, 08 avril 2012 - 10:29 .


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Ok guys so I was having a look at what some other sites have said about this issue and I found this

http://www.cinemable...Week-41200.html

This seems like good news but I would take it with a pinch of salt just in case and don't let your hopes get up too much

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I won't be able to check my Shepard when the patch lands tomorrow (still replaying ME2 after my computer devoured my original save files). I suspect this will happen anyway, but could people please post the changes (if any) after the patch lands? Preferably with screenshots so we can see how different imported Sheps look now compared to before the patch, if there's been any improvements with this. I have a facecode for my Shepard (default ME1/ME2 Femshep, but imported from ME1), which I can use if she doesn't import, but this still looks noticeably different at the moment when inputted into the demo, so I don't hold out much hope that this will actually fix the problem, but...here's hoping.

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I rebuilt my Fem-shep's face for ME2 (a long, painstajking effort switching back and forth between import and edit making little tweaks) and on import to ME3 ended up with an improved version of the ME1 face instead of the ME2 face (odd coincidence?)...except her eyes had changed to bright green (they looked darker before maybe brown)
...I think Joker's eyes seem to have changed similarly