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Issue importing faces into Mass Effect 3 Updated March 21


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#7726
Ryuna

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is the patch named v1.1.5427.4???

#7727
DomanN7

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Know what? All the time I was grumbling I can't play. I was waiting for the patch. And when I found out that patch is actually coming, my 5-day-weekend just began. I couldn't wait anymore, so I decided to play with most acceptable Shepard I can create. And I did create almost identical Shepard to the "old one"... only slightly better. And it looks great.

Now I'm angry I didn't try to do this at the beginning. At the same time I'm happy I did it anyway - now I see how pointless was waiting for the patch..

I'm not happy though you guys still have problems, at least some of you...

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Omega Glory

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Auto patching isn't even working for me (I'm in the UK) even though Origin reports the game as up to date.

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PhazonEnder

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Please tell me that all of the people posting that the patch doesn't work are just joking. I fthey're not than this is OUTRAGEOUS. BioWare takes over a month to develop this "fix" yet almost nothing has changed, if the YAML method didn't work for us than the patch seems like it won't either. Great work BioWare between the face import bug, the lack of communication, and the possibility that this patch does nothing, you've lost another customer. Good luck staying in business at this rate.

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Now I'm angry I didn't try to do this at the beginning. At the same time I'm happy I did it anyway - now I see how pointless was waiting for the patch..

I feel for you, man. I did the YAML thing in order to avoid the wait, cheered that it almost didn't change my MainShep's face and finished the game. Now that we know that the patch does pretty much the exact same thing... well, there was no real reason to wait. Especially since both the YAML and the patch broke my FemShep's face in the exact same way =(

On an unrelated note, your signature is most awesome.

Modifié par Noelemahc, 09 avril 2012 - 07:06 .


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llandwynwyn wrote...

I don't have ME1 screenshots here, so:

http://i.imgur.com/1sE4G.jpg

Her eyebrown color imported as grey and her eye colour is missing in ME3, but the rest is fine.


:wizard:Aren't you happy to have her nose back? It was driving me mad that I had to use either a crooked nose or a snub nose with the workaround. :P

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Kya wrote...

llandwynwyn wrote...

I don't have ME1 screenshots here, so:

http://i.imgur.com/1sE4G.jpg

Her eyebrown color imported as grey and her eye colour is missing in ME3, but the rest is fine.


:wizard:Aren't you happy to have her nose back? It was driving me mad that I had to use either a crooked nose or a snub nose with the workaround. :P


Not sure if you saw my edited post, but I wanted to ask you if when you did the workaround you launched ME2 to fill in the gaps the YAML method didn't generate or if you tweaked things by your memory?

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Can we get some BroSheps in here for comparison guys? Really unsure whether to feel hopeful or depressed about this fix hitting xbox tomo.

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Well, the patch didn't fix anything for me, my femShep still looks like this on import:
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Instead she should look like this (this is the correct facecode I got using gibbed):
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[edit: it's still ME1->ME2 save that won't import the face correctly]

Modifié par isig, 09 avril 2012 - 07:12 .


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Kya

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ThinkIntegral wrote...
Not sure if you saw my edited post, but I wanted to ask you if when you did the workaround you launched ME2 to fill in the gaps the YAML method didn't generate or if you tweaked things by your memory?

Nope, didn't see that. :)

Actually, I had a sh** load of screenshots of my ME2 Shepard from a variety of angles and in a variety of situations. I guess this added to the sensitivity... My worst problem was the shape of the face itself.

ETA: I spent about 15 hours playing and tweaking the face over and over again. I have 18 slightly different face codes that imported (using gibbed) to the game I had started. The face I have now and that I find acceptable has features that are not part of the ME3 character creator, so my guess is that they didn't try to convert that into a code.

And to everyone else I emphasize again: The fix seems to work better for the ME1>ME2>M3 route than the ME2>ME3 route.

Modifié par Kya, 09 avril 2012 - 07:26 .


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Funny thing is, depending on the lighting, the match is almost complete (except the makeup, but I'll try to fix that with Gibbed), or completely off. Look here:

ME2:
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ME3 OK:
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ME3 Completely off:
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It seems to even change between shots in the same scene, only dependent on the lighting.

More or less OK:
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Completely off:
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When the lighting is correct, the face is really almost the old one, minus the makeup and the faint smile in the corner of the mouth. If only it would not change from scene to scene :(

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Decided to make another post but with fullscreen images this time around. The FemShep in the pictures are default Jane Shepard and currently my only Shepard. I hate playing the same game twice and definatly with another character. The first comparison shot is ingame and the second comparison is the squad screen. Feel free to use these as how you see fit. 

Sorry for the pixelation, I might have buggered it up.

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I'm not going to play this game. The fix did bring back pieces from Jane but not completely. Unless somebody can tweak her back in CC or mod her back in the game I give up. I don't have the same patience as I used to have.

In retrospect this game isn't worth the € 70 for MP alone. I was unsure about ME3 after DA2. The game might be actually good, I have no idea but I am emotionally detached now. I play games for immersion. You have killed the franchise for me. Have fun with my money BioWEAre! Last time you'll get any more from me.

Also I keep thinking of this image for some reason. I already posted it a couple of weeks back. http://janeshepard89...epard-283001059 

EDIT: Lots of furious typing

Modifié par Da-Fort, 09 avril 2012 - 07:34 .


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PhazonEnder wrote...

Please tell me that all of the people posting that the patch doesn't work are just joking. I fthey're not than this is OUTRAGEOUS. BioWare takes over a month to develop this "fix" yet almost nothing has changed, if the YAML method didn't work for us than the patch seems like it won't either. Great work BioWare between the face import bug, the lack of communication, and the possibility that this patch does nothing, you've lost another customer. Good luck staying in business at this rate.


It's apparently working for some and not for others. I'm curious what differentiates the ones that do/don't work and that's at least part of the reason why I would've liked some form of communication regarding the patch by anyone in the know. If it only clears up those having specific problems or leaves a small % of people with some specific issue out of luck then I'd rather have known about it before waiting a month to find out.  It seems it at least fixes most of the problems for 1/2 or so of the reporting people (I'd assume a skewed sample though to be fair), so it's at least something good, but it should still be seen as a failure simply due to the poor communication that's still happening -which rather proves that nothing has changed in that regard.

Modifié par torgoservo, 09 avril 2012 - 07:17 .


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Apple_NdiB

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Simonion wrote...

Can we get some BroSheps in here for comparison guys? Really unsure whether to feel hopeful or depressed about this fix hitting xbox tomo.


I'll repost what I posted earlier

Apple_NdiB wrote...

So here it is... The results are in, and it looks like the YAML method was as good as it was ever going to get.

Here is my ME2 Shep 

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Here is the result of the YAML/ME2 tweaking procedure and the Shep I used for my ME3 playthroughs

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And this is the result of the import bug being fixed

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The only difference being the colour of the beard and eyebrows which is more accurate in my YAML-made Shep. It should be noted that in-game the differences between ME2 and 3 are less pronounced than you can see in the Character Creator, but that's probably because my Shep has such clearly defined features. More subtle Shepards seem to lose more in translation.

 

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sic transit gloria mundi

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hm - looks like the patch isn't live on european servers yet?

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Spruso wrote...
Funny thing is, depending on the lighting, the match is almost complete (except the makeup, but I'll try to fix that with Gibbed), or completely off. Look here:

When the lighting is correct, the face is really almost the old one, minus the makeup and the faint smile in the corner of the mouth. If only it would not change from scene to scene :(


THIS. I attributed it to the "improved" animation, though.

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Da-Fort wrote...

Decided to make another post but with fullscreen images this time around. The FemShep in the pictures are default Jane Shepard and currently my only Shepard. I hate playing the same game twice and definatly with another character. The first comparison shot is ingame and the second comparison is the squad screen. Feel free to use these as how you see fit. 

Sorry for the pixelation, I might have buggered it up.

*Images*

Is the "fix" image the patch? Because I think the other of ME3 looks more like the one in ME2...

#7743
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Apple_NdiB wrote...

Simonion wrote...

Can we get some BroSheps in here for comparison guys? Really unsure whether to feel hopeful or depressed about this fix hitting xbox tomo.


I'll repost what I posted earlier

Apple_NdiB wrote...

So here it is... The results are in, and it looks like the YAML method was as good as it was ever going to get.

Here is my ME2 Shep 

Posted Image

Here is the result of the YAML/ME2 tweaking procedure and the Shep I used for my ME3 playthroughs

Posted Image

And this is the result of the import bug being fixed

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The only difference being the colour of the beard and eyebrows which is more accurate in my YAML-made Shep. It should be noted that in-game the differences between ME2 and 3 are less pronounced than you can see in the Character Creator, but that's probably because my Shep has such clearly defined features. More subtle Shepards seem to lose more in translation.

 


Excellent Apple_NdiB , this is exactly what I wanted to know.  So the confirmation is that it doesn't work, only removes the error message and anyone saying it does merely tweaked things by glance/memory.  You did exactly what I did to fill in the gaps the YAML method didn't generate by going into ME2.   So I can expect the same.

#7744
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for those of us for whom the patch does not work (I have to wait until tomorrow for the xbox patch, skeptical though...) and who bought this $70 or so CE coaster from Gamestop, what legal or consumer recourse do we have? I say the bunch of us for whom it didn't work find a different way (other than posting in these forums) to make as much noise as possible. Any way to return the paperweight?

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This is ridiculous. I'm waiting on the console patch so I won't know until tomorrow if it helped me or not. But judging from everyone's recent posts I know not to get my hopes up.

I'm not surprised though. It's obvious they didn't care about the import face bug so why would they bother fixing it. The game is out, the Mass Effect series is over and they have our money already so why the hell should they care. The lack of communication proves they knew the patch wouldn't fix a thing so they just sat there with a their tail between their legs.

Great job BiowEAr. How does it feel to go from first to last. Oh wait I forgot you would have to have a heart in order to feel.

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torgoservo wrote...

PhazonEnder wrote...

Please tell me that all of the people posting that the patch doesn't work are just joking. I fthey're not than this is OUTRAGEOUS. BioWare takes over a month to develop this "fix" yet almost nothing has changed, if the YAML method didn't work for us than the patch seems like it won't either. Great work BioWare between the face import bug, the lack of communication, and the possibility that this patch does nothing, you've lost another customer. Good luck staying in business at this rate.


It's apparently working for some and not for others. I'm curious what differentiates the ones that do/don't work and that's at least part of the reason why I would've liked some form of communication regarding the patch by anyone in the know. If it only clears up those having specific problems or leaves a small % of people with some specific issue out of luck then I'd rather have known about it before waiting a month to find out.  It seems it at least fixes most of the problems for 1/2 or so of the reporting people (I'd assume a skewed sample though to be fair), so it's at least something good, but it should still be seen as a failure simply due to the poor communication that's still happening -which rather proves that nothing has changed in that regard.


I suspect that any Shepard initially created in Mass Effect then imported into Mass Effect 2 for which an improper face code is attached in the second game (generated by choosing a customized appearance, cancelling and then using the imported appearance) will not be imported with this "fix", due to the game using the (incorrect) face code upon detection of its presence in place of an approximation as was evidently implemented by this "fix".

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Just wondering with the patch does it let you tweak the imported face at all so that we can fix any off hair colours, etc.?

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isig wrote...

Well, the patch didn't fix anything for me, my femShep still looks like this on import:
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Instead she should look like this (this is the correct facecode I got using gibbed):
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[edit: it's still ME1->ME2 save that won't import the face correctly]



Remove the face code from your Mass Effect 2 save using Gibbed and attempt to import the resulting file.

#7749
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- I actually opened mass effect 2
- alt+tabbed
- Opened Mass effect 3
- Screamed holy moly my pc can handle mass effect 2 AND 3 AT THE SAME TIME???!!
- recreated my custom shepard by alt+tabbing back and forth

Well that worked for me. Well until I reached the ending... but enough has been said about that :P

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Well, gave it a try now with my GuyShep. Sadly, as expected, still doesn't come close. Not that I really expected it to, because several of the assets I used to make him (hairstyle, eyeshape,noseshape,eyebrow shape, eyecolour) just don't exist anymore in ME3's CC. :-/

Well, that's it for me then. Too bad, really. But not surprising. I fully expected them to take the cheapest route, and seems I was right. But at least some can now get faces that are more to their liking. So the "patch" wasn't completely for naught.