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@KYA that's absolutly ridiculous, then, I was hoping that wouldn't happen, my scars dissapeer then slowly come back? They should stay, or be gone forever.

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Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

On the bright side, at least the thread is still stickied. It probably means they'll most likely address the issue sometime soon and hope to fix it... correctly.


They look in here, pick the posts that say it worked, and then tweet "players reported success".

I tried to make a new thread to collect the reports of "STILL not working", but it was locked immediately. They don't want to know that it STILL DOES NOT WORK for some players.


In response to the lock I wrote this:
http://social.biowar...ndex/11295235/1


Maybe we should move to the technical support forums and raise the page numbers there. Maybe then someone (else) will notice that there is still a problem with this patch.

Modifié par Kya, 12 avril 2012 - 07:01 .


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@Kya: maybe this one will have a better fate than yours?

edit #1: Or maybe posting a link here will get it locked even quicker... D'oh!

edit #2: Nothing to see here, move along.

Modifié par woodbyte, 12 avril 2012 - 07:20 .


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I've been following this thread since the beginning, to keep abreast of the situation, and thought I'd comment now that it is resolved (for me, at least). I downloaded the patch yesterday, and after a literal drum roll from my housemate (he's in a few local bands), my Shepard's face popped up. His hair looked a little dark in the CC, but in-game he looks perfect. I obviously don't speak for the majority, but cheers, BioWare. It was baffling mistake to make in the first place, but it's fixed now, and I've never been able to hold grudges over things like video games, as huge a part of my life as they may be. I'll be starting the game in a few weeks' time, when I've finished my current project, and it'll be good to finish the story with the Shepard I started with, all those years ago.

Best of luck to everyone here. Hopefully there'll come a point when we can all enjoy the game and its allegedly awful nding!

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PrivateJoker17 wrote...

Is it sad that I predicted this 'fix' would not actually 'fix' anything, but still waited for it? I feel like I want to cry right now, that's how much Mass Effect means to me and now the final chapter in something I love so much is ruined and the people responsible don't care.


The Patch did exactly what it was supposed to do.

PrivateJoker17 wrote...

Oh and Bioware, one more thing, at the end of ME2 the Shep that DID import into ME3 successfully was at full renegade and I did not fix his scars, in ME3 he has no scars whatsoever, not even the scar he had in the original ME. Thanks for that, good job, I'm boycotting your future games.


The whole Point of renegade scars IS to emerge over the course of the Game. To start a new, different game with renegade scars would reduce their meaning to absurdity.

PrivateJoker17 wrote...

It really sucks that I'm playing on Xbox not PC (ME was released on Xbox first and I didn't know it would be on PC at all, so when it comes to ME I'm a console gamer) and can't use the YAML method to re-create my Sheps.

You can use the YAML method, the link to use it on the Xbox is in the first Post of this Thread.
Or you can simple delete the wrong Face code in your ME2 save files and import them again.
You may be surprised...

PrivateJoker17 wrote...

Also, now that I've actually started playing ME3, I'm annoyed that there isn't an all human council, with my original Shepards I chose to save the council, but with my most recent Shep (the one that was imported correctly) I chose to sacrifice the council, well, in ME2 it was said that they were all human, well now they're Turian, Salarian and Asari again, with no explanation whatsoever. They also look IDENTICAL to the original council, the only difference is in their voices. What the f*** Bioware?


There never was a purely human council, you could propose that in ME1, but it was never executed.

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How do you get the patch for xbox?

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Kya wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

On the bright side, at least the thread is still stickied. It probably means they'll most likely address the issue sometime soon and hope to fix it... correctly.


They look in here, pick the posts that say it worked, and then tweet "players reported success".

I tried to make a new thread to collect the reports of "STILL not working", but it was locked immediately. They don't want to know that it STILL DOES NOT WORK for some players.


In response to the lock I wrote this:
http://social.biowar...ndex/11295235/1


Maybe we should move to the technical support forums and raise the page numbers there. Maybe then someone (else) will notice that there is still a problem with this patch.


I would even go as far as to say almost all players.  I'm having a really hard time believing people posting "My shepard is perfect its exactly like ME2!".  Meanwhile these same people never post pictures of their success stories.  Don't get me wrong, I hope that is the case.  I hope they can play the game with the shepards they have been playing with for years.  However, theres just to much evidence that this patch did next to nothing. 

This should be Biowares #1 priority right now.  A large portion of the playerbase hasn't even played the SP campaign because their shepard bears no resemblance to the previous 2 installments.  This should be done before the "extended cut" & whatever plans they have for MP.

The character creator needs a overhaul & new textures/meshes need to be added.

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Benny8484 wrote...

I would even go as far as to say almost all players.  I'm having a really hard time believing people posting "My shepard is perfect its exactly like ME2!".  Meanwhile these same people never post pictures of their success stories.


There's no reason to doubt that it works for some people (and, in fact, I think that even implying that will just distraction).

So, let's just state that it's not working for apparently a (huge) number of people. I still don't know if it's the meshes, the shaders, or the textures…but the fact is that all ME2 characters can't be reproduced in ME3, and we'd like an answer as to why – and whether it can/will be fixed.

Incidentally, I got some interesting results backporting my ME3 approximation face into ME2. It was pretty damn close to my original ME2 character. (More in the face bug thread: http://social.biowar...023/12#11313845.)

Modifié par lillitheris, 12 avril 2012 - 07:48 .


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@Holger, the patch did NOT do what it was suppossed to, are you insane? Most of us are still having the issue, my original Shepard still will NOT import. Yes, the point of those scars was to emerge over the game in MASS EFFECT 2, not this game, my character's scars already emerged, they shouldn't just reset, that's completely preposterous, I grew to know my renegade Shep as a scarred, almost evil looking character, that's who he is, that is who he became, the fact that it just resets so you can start again makes no sense and is giving a big middle finger to my character, I want the face I am used to, the face he is suppossed to have, I should at least have an option to keep them, or fix his face using medical science and if I do fix his face using medical science they shouldn't just re-emerge.

Modifié par PrivateJoker17, 12 avril 2012 - 07:48 .


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Downloaded and tested the long awaited patch yesterday.

Before it just gave me the error code and the default Shepard face. Now I get a Shepard which looks close enough to my Shepard beside hair/eye color and nose shape. Close enough for me to finally start the game. If I was given this Shepard in the first place, I wouldn't have made a big deal about it and perhaps not even noticed it, even though my Shepard looks like a black albino now.

I'm still trying to get into the atmosphere of this game though. I don't know if it's got to do with my Shepard somehow still feeling different than in ME1 and 2 or that this game just feels more like a shooter than an adventure.

Anyway, I wish all those who still can't get their Shepard imported properly the best of luck and I really hope that Bioware takes this serious enough to properly fix this, once and forever.

ZeepEend over and out *kchhr*

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lillitheris wrote...

Benny8484 wrote...

I would even go as far as to say almost all players.  I'm having a really hard time believing people posting "My shepard is perfect its exactly like ME2!".  Meanwhile these same people never post pictures of their success stories.


There's no reason to doubt that it works for some people (and, in fact, I think that even implying that will just distraction).

So, let's just state that it's not working for apparently a (huge) number of people. I still don't know if it's the meshes, the shaders, or the textures…but the fact is that all ME2 characters can't be reproduced in ME3, and we'd like an answer as to why – and whether it can/will be fixed.

Incidentally, I got some interesting results backporting my ME3 approximation face into ME2. It was pretty damn close to my original ME2 character. (More in the face bug thread: http://social.biowar.../index/11073023.)

Well stated & yes thats very interesting.

@Holger, the patch did NOT do what it was suppossed to, are you insane?
Most of us are still having the issue, my original Shepard still will
NOT import. Yes, the point of those scars was to emerge over the game in
MASS EFFECT 2, not this game, my character's scars already emerged,
they shouldn't just reset, that's completely preposterous.


Yeah I completely agree with you.  I chose a paragon path so my scars are gone, however if I had chosen a renegade path & my scars "magically disappeared" I think I would be pretty put off by it.  Doesn't really make sense.

Modifié par Benny8484, 12 avril 2012 - 07:47 .


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Benny8484 wrote...

Yeah I completely agree with you.  I chose a paragon path so my scars are gone, however if I had chosen a renegade path & my scars "magically disappeared" I think I would be pretty put off by it.  Doesn't really make sense.


(I don't think the scarring is really a spoiler thing.)

I agree. I have to say, I was under the impression that you'd see the effect on an imported character as soon as the para/renegade score got updated – and it'd use the imported stats. Maybe that's not true, and you need to ‘earn’ your scars again?

I personally felt the scarring (beyond just making them heal slower, which was/would have been quite clever) was a little too sith lord or somesuch so I used the surgery on my characters.

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Benny8484 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Benny8484 wrote...

I would even go as far as to say almost all players.  I'm having a really hard time believing people posting "My shepard is perfect its exactly like ME2!".  Meanwhile these same people never post pictures of their success stories.


There's no reason to doubt that it works for some people (and, in fact, I think that even implying that will just distraction).

So, let's just state that it's not working for apparently a (huge) number of people. I still don't know if it's the meshes, the shaders, or the textures…but the fact is that all ME2 characters can't be reproduced in ME3, and we'd like an answer as to why – and whether it can/will be fixed.

Incidentally, I got some interesting results backporting my ME3 approximation face into ME2. It was pretty damn close to my original ME2 character. (More in the face bug thread: http://social.biowar.../index/11073023.)

Well stated & yes thats very interesting.

@Holger, the patch did NOT do what it was suppossed to, are you insane?
Most of us are still having the issue, my original Shepard still will
NOT import. Yes, the point of those scars was to emerge over the game in
MASS EFFECT 2, not this game, my character's scars already emerged,
they shouldn't just reset, that's completely preposterous.


Yeah I completely agree with you.  I chose a paragon path so my scars are gone, however if I had chosen a renegade path & my scars "magically disappeared" I think I would be pretty put off by it.  Doesn't really make sense.



It's your choice, Play renegade and they will appear, heal them with Glyph's Help if you don't like them, or Edit your ME3 Save files with Gibbed, it works similar to the ME2 method. Set your renegade Points to Max and you have your renegade scars from the start.   

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'earning' scars you already 'earned' is ridiculously dumb and makes absolutely no sense. The scars obviously aren't there because the importing system is broken in ME3, which I think we all know by now ;D. But I think it's pretty stupid when people try to say that it's intentional, it's clearly not. Also, I did find it a bit Sith Lordish too haha, I didn't have scars with my other Sheps, but I thought I'd give it a shot with my renegade playthrough and I really grew to love it, they suited him so well, it looks fantastic, now it's all gone for some inexplicable reason and (probably for OCD reasons) it's really annoying me in ME3, because his scars have just magically dissapeered.

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I shouldn't have to cheat the game and set my renegade score to max, I should have the character who ended ME2 and have the option to heal him if I want to, I shouldn't have to do it all again. Also, that was a mechanic that made sense in ME2 as Shepard was still healing from his/her surgery, it makes no sense to have it happen again in ME3 and just feels like a lousy gimmick, which I don't appreciate.

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Quick comment and question. Patch works ok. Couple of little problems here and there in the CC but overall works fine. HOWEVER I think the patch has in some way shape or form altered the save files of some of my Shepards. For example the game says I did the cosmetic surgery in ME2 when I didn't. Is this just a small bug in the patch maybe? Anyone else have similar problems?

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What? The game doesn't mention the surgery at all for me, which is what we're discussing above your post ;)

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PrivateJoker17 wrote...

@Holger, the patch did NOT do what it was suppossed to, are you insane? Most of us are still having the issue, my original Shepard still will NOT import. Yes, the point of those scars was to emerge over the game in MASS EFFECT 2, not this game, my character's scars already emerged, they shouldn't just reset, that's completely preposterous, I grew to know my renegade Shep as a scarred, almost evil looking character, that's who he is, that is who he became, the fact that it just resets so you can start again makes no sense and is giving a big middle finger to my character, I want the face I am used to, the face he is suppossed to have, I should at least have an option to keep them, or fix his face using medical science and if I do fix his face using medical science they shouldn't just re-emerge.




The Patch did what it was supposed to do, fixing the import error, the problems still accruing are different.

lillitheris  as a "successful" import, still her/his FemShep looks different in game through the different engine and differences in the CC to give the Faces more ability of expression.

In other cases, when the face will import completely wrong, you most probably have a wrong face code stored in your ME2 save files.  If that is the case you need to remove this code from your ME2 save files before importing them in ME3.

Modifié par Holger1405, 12 avril 2012 - 08:12 .


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 I waited for the patch to start playing. My initial reaction after patching was one of disappointment, but after playing for awhile I had no big trouble accepting my "new" Shephard. She looks a bit younger and "cute-ified", but she's close enough for me to enjoy the game!

ME2 Shephard, squad screen:
Image IPB

ME3 Shephard, down in engineering:
Image IPB 

In most situations in-game the apperances are actually closer than the screenshots indicate.

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I don't get the error message with my other Shep, instead the face I have is the default custom face, not the face I actually created back in 2007 and have grown to love ever since, it is just the face you start with when you choose to create a custom character, it is not the face you actually created. This is the problem most of us are having and we were told it would be fixed, it hasn't been, what has been fixed is: those players who received an error message and nothing imported no longer recieve the message, they receive a Shepard that looks roughly like their original, this is what happened with my other Shep. But I want my original Shep fixed, I want his face back, I have waited over a month for this and there's still no fix in sight. I just want Bioware to tell me whether it will be fixed or not, if not, well that sucks, but at least I can move on because right now I can't and it's killing me.

Modifié par PrivateJoker17, 12 avril 2012 - 08:23 .


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Back. Salute to you all (exept 1) :)

Edit-> Me1-> Me2 direct no face code)  PC

The patch didnt do it for me. There are some things that remember me a little bit on Nicole, But it just is NOT her. ( Hair, eyebrows, eyes, mouth ) i took a about 50 screenshots in ME 3 just after the import and also In game ( Earth) and Squad ( Me3)

Now look i had 3 nightshifts and i do have a pretty hard job wich requires a lot from me ( physical and emotional).
I played Mass Effect 1 & 2 for more as 450 hours (only with Nicole Shepard) to relax and have fun.

Well this is no fun at all anymore. ( the fun i have now is seeing my 2 cats play : )
I followed this topic created by Chris P from page 1 until this page.

I already spent hours and hours not playing ME3 but trying to reconstruct Nicole's Face.
I learned about Yaml, about Lods, about photoshop, about modding , about save editors, etc etc But i still CANNOT play Nicole Shepard!

I am at the point to call my credit card service and try to get back the 80 euro's i spent on the CE and just forget about ME 3 and replay 1 and 2 and maybe , maybe in 1 year rebuy the game.

I do have a question, shall i post my screenshots in here? ore post them on a photosite and give the link.

I also want to give many many many compliments especially to Lilltheris and Kia ! They are so much trying to help everyone! ( also Pheonix and Woodburry ) You guys girls are dooing the work now that Bioware technical support SHOULD do! I forgot the Xbox expert who created the Blog ( forgotten his name) and if i forgot some else i apologize.

Thank You! Thank You!

Sorry for my english, I am dutch , tired and angry at the PR and Tech guys/girls that are not giving any support here!

Regards from The Netherlands.
Emphyr(io)

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PrivateJoker17 wrote...

'earning' scars you already 'earned' is ridiculously dumb and makes absolutely no sense. The scars obviously aren't there because the importing system is broken in ME3, which I think we all know by now ;D. But I think it's pretty stupid when people try to say that it's intentional, it's clearly not. Also, I did find it a bit Sith Lordish too haha, I didn't have scars with my other Sheps, but I thought I'd give it a shot with my renegade playthrough and I really grew to love it, they suited him so well, it looks fantastic, now it's all gone for some inexplicable reason and (probably for OCD reasons) it's really annoying me in ME3, because his scars have just magically dissapeered.


You can state this over and over again, it doesn't make it true. The scars are still there. You chose to have them, or not. Not all People would like to have them from the start, others don't like them anymore at all. Bioware gave this choice to the Players by design.

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Woodburry?

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It's not a choice though, what I'm saying is I WANT a choice, I have to spend another forty hours earning them in this game, I should import my character with them and after this import I should have the option to 'keep your scars or fix them medically' THAT is a choice. I do not have that choice, instead my face is changed completely, because the scars are gone, if I want them back, well I guess I better put another forty hours into renegade actions, gee, thanks Bioware.

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PrivateJoker17 wrote...

'earning' scars you already 'earned' is ridiculously dumb and makes absolutely no sense. The scars obviously aren't there because the importing system is broken in ME3, which I think we all know by now ;D. But I think it's pretty stupid when people try to say that it's intentional, it's clearly not.


No, I agree. Or, let me state it this way:

1. The character creator does not need to show the scars (it's just your face); BUT
2. The scars should be applied immediately after the CC, so you'll have them in that very first scene.

I think we can accept this as one of the issues without further ado.