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Issue importing faces into Mass Effect 3 Updated March 21


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#2151
Zaraghos

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Look what they did to my BELOVED Jasmine!!!

They turned one of the sexiest cat-like charming women I could imagine into a clone of that ugly uncharming **** of Ashley Williams!!

...and considering that I've sent Kaidan Alenko to the death-row just because I was jealous of his exceeding attention toward Jasmine, consider how pissed I am!!

#2152
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Pordis Shepard wrote...

Abe_Froeman wrote...

vahnfox wrote...

Abe_Froeman wrote...
So this site associated with the workaround is down:

5. Go to this website and register on it: legion.cal24.pl/me2/

Is there any alternative at the moment?


You can just start a new game importing your ME2 character into your ME2 game and copy the facecode when you get to the character creation screen.

Thanks, that saves some time.

That will not work unless you tweaked your face in me2.  me1 faces that went unchanged through me2 will not even have a facecode.  If you started tweaking it, and cancelled--keeping the original me1---it may have the wrong code.


I left mine untouched sadly, looks like I'm porked.  This is so annoying.

Is there any way to get your ME2 face code if you didn't touch your ME1 Shepard?

#2153
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Also, I think the wait for a patch is more likely to be weeks, not days. 


And that's why we need a straight anwser. When it's gonna be. And guess what - we want it yesterday.

#2154
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Even more important than when, is WHAT it will be. Will they actually put the effort in to restore the options missing to the files in the game (if not the editor) so our faces can be accurately reconstructed. Or are they just gonna debug the error and let ME3 take a best guess. If it's the latter, I don't need to wait, I've gotten him as close as humanly possible in the CC and it isn't satisfactory.

I'll be even more infuriated if I have to wait weeks on end for an official fix that just gives a lame approximation.

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I'm not buying the game til I get the option to import my Shepard's face. Talk about a big mistake from Bioware. How could the testing not reveal this?

Modifié par iLight_, 10 mars 2012 - 01:51 .


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http://www.fixmasseffect3.com/ now this is progress. Now if someone can come up with a class action suit and hit them where it hurts most, their wallets. Thats all these dirtballs care about is their damn money and to hell with a loyal fan base.

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What a dumb issue. Pop in the game and first thing there is a problem? What the heck did I get this at midnight of the 6th when I'm waiting for them to fix the code. I spent a lot of time on my Shep starting with ME1. Of course it is the loyal fans who are going to be frustrated by this. Bioware should not screw the loyal fans. I'm sad and disappointed. I'm playing the game, but sorta just messing around until I can import my REAL Shep.

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I probably can't add a great deal here and indeed even a powerful case worded in the strongest possible terms would simply be adding to the steadily growing pile of "annoyed customer", so you'll excuse me if I just use this space to vent.

After failing miserably to create my rather sassy female Shepard in the demo I had high hopes for the character transfer tool. Hopes that were quickly and efficiently dashed in a wave of painted on hair, absent makeup and bizarre cheekbones.

Having messed with the tool a bit I can see a line of reasoning for the change, you can create some fairly interesting faces which is sort of what one would hope it would achieve. But honestly, I would say this is a definite secondary goal to providing the sense of continuity of character one might expect from a contintuity.

All the effort that has gone into carrying over decisions, in imparting the sense of a single dramatic narrative, and suddenly the main character has an entirely different face! As the primary means of distinguishing one character from another, surely there isn't a more imortant factor than the face! It's a face!

As something incredibly easy to test I have to assume this came up, that somewhere along the line someone was assigned the task of looking at the list of available Mr and Mrs Potato head style parts and recreating them within the spanking new game. Said person, or more likely team looked down the list and must have decided that, you know what? Are all these really needed? I mean, eyes are eyes right? And who really looks at a nose anyhow?

Maybe I wouldn't care if I didn't think Shepard is one the strongest characters in gaming history, and while I'm sure I will enjoy this new game you have worked so hard to create, the appeal for me for some time has been to see the completion of this single connected story, but because of this, to a great extent the thread has been broken and I'll be left with the ever nagging feeling that the facsimile I finally plump for is simply not the same.

Honestly, I think I'd be happier if the game just sucked. Maybe I have wierd standards but there we are.

#2159
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Also, I am NOT going out of my way to fix an issue. Bioware needs to fix this pronto. It's just not acceptable. I really think Bioware should add a free "we're sorry" perk of DLC as well.

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Sixthnewkid wrote...

http://www.fixmasseffect3.com/ now this is progress. Now if someone can
come up with a class action suit and hit them where it hurts most,
their wallets. Thats all these dirtballs care about is their damn money
and to hell with a loyal fan base.


It might be kind of tough because you'd have to establish that the maintaining of the face is the expectation of consumer buying the game. Then you'd probably have to establish that it was understood between the parties that's what was expected

ETA: Or you'd have to show that, that was the defining feature of the game and that as it stands now it's not up to par.  Problem is that it could be entirely subjective.

Modifié par ThinkIntegral, 10 mars 2012 - 01:59 .


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Stellacylse wrote...

Also, I am NOT going out of my way to fix an issue. Bioware needs to fix this pronto. It's just not acceptable. I really think Bioware should add a free "we're sorry" perk of DLC as well.


To be honest long term fans of the game should not have to go out the way to fix something that should been fixed before it was released

Chris posted a few weeks why he thinks" playing default first is better"    i guess the real reason behind this was so other regions would not find out about it and cancel the game

They never bothered to mention anything about it

Bioware IMO right now are as bad as Activision,   i don't blame EA at all i think it is time developers start getting the blame for allowing this to happen.
I know develops have deadlines and all that but if they know something that is game breaking they should turn around to the publisher and say "we need more time to fix this"

I will no longer support bioware games at launch

Free DLC would be nice but they somehow screw us over with that too

#2162
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ThinkIntegral wrote...

It might be kind of tough because you'd have to establish that the maintaining of the face is the expectation of consumer buying the game.


But one could establish that people expects their characters' faces not look like faeces!!! XD

I think that could be an acceptable expectation for a customer... ( :P )

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If Bioware isn't sure of the exact ETA, perhaps they could consider providing us with a reasonable ETA range, like within 1-2 days from now, 3-6 days, 1-2 weeks, etc.

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vahnfox wrote...

Also, I think the wait for a patch is more likely to be weeks, not days. 


Honestly, I doubt this problem really can be fixed in a reasonable amount of time.

Go to this website for info about what's really going on
http://www.fixmasseffect3.com/

The problem is not that there is a bug in the code. The problem is that the face settings have completely changed. The character creation system is simply different than the Mass Effect previous installments. Your old face literally is not coded into the new system. It doesn't exist.

The problem of fixing it is that when they're designing a game they are constantly looking for graphical issues caused by the in game facial features. When they make facial expressions, they are most likely using an armature (the animation equivalent of bones) underneath the actual mesh. When you add a whole new list of facial features to the mix you are going to have to deal with the long list of bugs and graphical issues to follow. This takes a suprisingly long amount of time to do considering the task and I don't know if EA will think the devotion of these resources is worth the money if they already released  and sold the game. My guess is that EA execs simply won't understand the need to fix this and will think that it's a minor bug. Quite simply, I think we may be screwed.

Modifié par FeministShep, 10 mars 2012 - 02:28 .


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Can you see my problem here?

If you think it couldn't possibly be this bad, and these are really different faces, here's the code.  See for yourself.

443.P67.T11.W21.C62.24N.12H.7C1.WU6.W25.9G6.376

For other people who want to post comparison pics, personally I'd recommend using in-game shots if you can, as I think they tend to bring out the difference more than the cc screen.  Up to you though, of course.

#2166
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DarkGin87 wrote...
Chris posted a few weeks why he thinks" playing default first is better"    i guess the real reason behind this was so other regions would not find out about it and cancel the game


Buahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah!!

Well...after all...who gives a damn about his own character's face!!! Let's play Doom!!! XD

That's the real truth...Mass Effect 3 wanted to be Doom 2012!! ( XD )

#2167
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ThinkIntegral wrote...

It might be kind of tough because you'd have to establish that the maintaining of the face is the expectation of consumer buying the game. Then you'd probably have to establish that it was understood between the parties that's what was expected

ETA: Or you'd have to show that, that was the defining feature of the game and that as it stands now it's not up to par.  Problem is that it could be entirely subjective.

Not that I'm arguing for such an action as it's probably a bit silly, but I think it's a reasonable expectation that the third part of a trilogy containing a prominant leading character would seek to tie up the narrative pertaining to that leading character. That the effort put into continuity amounted to a promise of such, and that the complete absence of said character was something of a breach.

Modifié par Ziggeh, 10 mars 2012 - 02:11 .


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Whole Particle wrote...

If Bioware isn't sure of the exact ETA, perhaps they could consider providing us with a reasonable ETA range, like within 1-2 days from now, 3-6 days, 1-2 weeks, etc.



I think the ETA range is around WGaF or so...

#2169
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FeministShep wrote...

The problem is not that there is a bug in the code. The problem is that the face settings have completely changed. The character creation system is simply different than the Mass Effect previous installments. Your old face literally is not coded into the new system. It doesn't exist.

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When they say some people are having issues importing, I think what they mean is that they're being thrown an error message rather than the tool having a stab at your shepard by assuming hair is basically all just stuff on top of your head and as long as you have the same number of eyes it's probably cool.

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EUDOXIO wrote...

Demonique wrote...

Pordis Shepard wrote...

Demonique wrote...
My YAML file won't up to the ME2 tools page

Is the server just busy?  Are you using the correct male/female link?  What is the error message?


There's no error message, I'm clicking the upload button and nothing happens, no error message, it doesn't go to another page, nothing


After upload the file, go to 

Female Shepards codes are here: masseffecttools.99k.org/femshep_code.php

Male Shepards codes are here: masseffecttools.99k.org/maleshep_code.php

and put the name used when you upload the yaml file


I tried copy-pasting the wordpad data put its not uploading either

#2171
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I get that people are upset, because I am too, but does anyone here think that a gaming company would actively try to sell broken critical features to people? 


Um, yes, because that's exactly what they just did.

It sucks to be made to wait, but all good things and what not:)


The legitimate waiting phase ended on 3/6/12. 

#2172
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Stellacylse wrote...

Chris posted a few weeks why he thinks" playing default first is better"    i guess the real reason behind this was so other regions would not find out about it and cancel the game


Well put. I hope, though, your comment won't be registered as "abuse towards staff" (poor things) as a part of the new "site rules & code of conduct" because you know, we are a part of a boy scout troop and have the "privilege" to be posting on the forums of a game we payed 50+ bucks for.

Seriously, though, when I read that the first time a while ago I thought I smelled a rat but I thought 'there is no possible way they would have glossed this over.......'. Glad I was proved wrong, oh wait, that was an alternate path in the 5th dimension my reality didn't take.

http://www.fixmasseffect3.com/ The real story about what happened with face importation

Modifié par FeministShep, 10 mars 2012 - 02:19 .


#2173
Zaraghos

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The ETA for the patch is in the WGaF ("who gives a ****") range...definitely... :D

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The thing that upsets me the most is that they just made only one statement on the problem, and no updates on the patch they are working on.

Modifié par batman22, 10 mars 2012 - 02:25 .


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ture, it would be nice if they gave us an update. I got that warning message to change my characters face also, even as i saw the face.