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[ThinkIntegral]

Latin Mafia III wrote...

What about Skyrim? How many glitches were in that game when it launched? Oh yeah, too many to count. Yet the community stayed patient while the devs worked out a patch. Bioware is an amazing developer, but if their fans are so quick to turn hostile & bash them to no end, then why would they work fast to put out a fix? Obviously there are people out there who could care less about the face import & are thouroughly enjoying the game so they could easily cater to them & not the "fans" that constantly hate on them. They already made their money when you bought the game so technically, they don't have to work out a fix if they don't want to. But they're not like that, they understand that something went wrong with the coding & they are working to fix it FOR YOU. If I remember correctly, the face ID worked fine in the demo so somebody must have screwed up when debugging the game & changed something that threw the system off.

Main point: it doesn't matter if the problem existed 3 months ago, 6 months ago or 1 year ago, they are working on a fix & you should be greatful that they are despite all the negativity.

Because if they failed to do so it would tarnish any good will they earned over the years and be a major hypocrisy to their holding themselves out as listening to their consumers/fans if they didn't push out a fix.  I don't think people are being per se ingrates. 

They just want information.  Especially information that goes beyond: "We think it's broken because of X",  "Yep, it's broken because of X"  and from information that was derived roughly, what, 25 days ago by someone outside the dev team.

I don't think that's unreasonable at all.

ETA:  Also, at least for me, information on whether the real issue is that because of the new facial animations any chance of getting an ME2 looking shep would result in a tremendous overhaul of the game.  If they'd be honest about that, granted people would be severely pissed, but well then that's the consequence they suffer for their actions right?  Might as well grow a pair and own up to it.

Modifié par ThinkIntegral, 10 mars 2012 - 08:50 .

[Ryuna]

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Vote here.
http://social.biowar...20/polls/29029/

[Kysi]

Clarian wrote...



Can you see my problem here?

If you think it couldn't possibly be this bad, and these are really different faces, here's the code.  See for yourself.

443.P67.T11.W21.C62.24N.12H.7C1.WU6.W25.9G6.376

For other people who want to post comparison pics, personally I'd recommend using in-game shots if you can, as I think they tend to bring out the difference more than the cc screen.  Up to you though, of course.

Whoever put up www.fixmasseffect3.com should really use this comparision on their page. It is spot-on concerning the face import problem!

Modifié par Kysi, 10 mars 2012 - 08:53 .

[Ryuna]

Kysi wrote...

Clarian wrote...



Can you see my problem here?

If you think it couldn't possibly be this bad, and these are really different faces, here's the code.  See for yourself.

443.P67.T11.W21.C62.24N.12H.7C1.WU6.W25.9G6.376

For other people who want to post comparison pics, personally I'd recommend using in-game shots if you can, as I think they tend to bring out the difference more than the cc screen.  Up to you though, of course.

Whoever put up www.fixmasseffect3.com should really use this comparision on their page. It is spot-on concerning the face import problem!

That's what I though too. The comparisons at www.fixmasseffect3.com don't show half of the crap that's happening here.

[Pappi]

Lol I like your ME3 one better.

My face didn't import so I just remade my fem shep in five minutes...but my character design wasn't complex.

[Latin Mafia III]

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Latin Mafia III wrote...

What about Skyrim? How many glitches were in that game when it launched? Oh yeah, too many to count. Yet the community stayed patient while the devs worked out a patch. Bioware is an amazing developer, but if their fans are so quick to turn hostile & bash them to no end, then why would they work fast to put out a fix? Obviously there are people out there who could care less about the face import & are thouroughly enjoying the game so they could easily cater to them & not the "fans" that constantly hate on them. They already made their money when you bought the game so technically, they don't have to work out a fix if they don't want to. But they're not like that, they understand that something went wrong with the coding & they are working to fix it FOR YOU. If I remember correctly, the face ID worked fine in the demo so somebody must have screwed up when debugging the game & changed something that threw the system off.

Main point: it doesn't matter if the problem existed 3 months ago, 6 months ago or 1 year ago, they are working on a fix & you should be greatful that they are despite all the negativity.

Because if they failed to do so it would tarnish any good will they earned over the years and be a major hypocrisy to their holding themselves out as listening to their consumers/fans if they didn't push out a fix.  I don't think people are being per se ingrates. 

They just want information.  Especially information that goes beyond: "We think it's broken because of X",  "Yep, it's broken because of X"  and from information that was derived roughly, what, 25 days ago by someone outside the dev team.

I don't think that's unreasonable at all.

It's not unreasonable, but people calling Bioware lazy, uncaring & other things of that nature is rediculous. These so called "fans" are not fans at all & are just grumpy people who are upset that their new Shepard looks different than their old Shepard. I understand that it is a big issue but to say that the entire game (Including gameplay, storyline, graphics, mechanics, voice acting etc) is ruined for them because they can't make their Shepard look the same is a HUGE stretch.

The game itself is great but people can't enjoy it because of the face. It's a personal preference problem that Bioware IS working to fix despite the hate.

Modifié par Latin Mafia III, 10 mars 2012 - 09:01 .

[Dewk]

Ryuna wrote...

Kysi wrote...

Clarian wrote...



Can you see my problem here?

If you think it couldn't possibly be this bad, and these are really different faces, here's the code.  See for yourself.

443.P67.T11.W21.C62.24N.12H.7C1.WU6.W25.9G6.376

For other people who want to post comparison pics, personally I'd recommend using in-game shots if you can, as I think they tend to bring out the difference more than the cc screen.  Up to you though, of course.

Whoever put up www.fixmasseffect3.com should really use this comparision on their page. It is spot-on concerning the face import problem!

That's what I though too. The comparisons at www.fixmasseffect3.com don't show half of the crap that's happening here.

Mine is a good example. Even the fan made fix gives me a totally different looking Shepard and I can't tweak him to make him look like he's supposed to

[abnocte]

Chris Priestly wrote...


Update: Hi Everyone.

We want to keep everyone up to date on this issue as we know how strongly many you feel about this. I will continue to update this thread as we have more information.

We have determined that faces importing incorrectly is an error with how codes were detected when transferred from Mass Effect 1 into Mass Effect 2 and then on into Mass Effect 3 or importing a Mass Effect 2 saved game with New Game +. The Mass Effect team continues to investigate fixes for these issues and they are top priority concerns for everyone here.

Again, when we have more news, we will let everyone know. Thanks again for your patience.

When I bought ME2 I remember thinking that it was odd that ME1 didn't have a face code.... but I just assumed that they read the raw data or something since the same eye shape looked different in an imported face than in a new one....

This is going to take long....  

Zaraghos wrote...
*snip*

The problem of data collected is that survey and things like that are turned to they would like to "read"...

...there's no way to show Bioware that you're really pissed off with data collection...the only way is to shout it right into their face...and that was the half-serious idea behind my little thread...

 

I wasn't talking about surveys or threads I was refering to the info they collect from the game: hours played, gender, class, renegade or paragon, multiplayer or single player, unless you turn that off they are currently recieving info from everywhere in the world about how people play their games.

Imagine, that worldwide, they stopped recieving all that info... 

[ThinkIntegral]

Latin Mafia III wrote...

It's not unreasonable, but people calling Bioware lazy, uncaring & other things of that nature, it's rediculous. These so called "fans" are not fans at all & are just grumpy people who are upset that their new Shepard looks different than their old Shepard. I understand that it is a big issue but to say that the entire game (Including gameplay, storyline, graphics, mechanics, voice acting etc) is ruined for them because they can't make their Shepard look the same is a HUGE stretch.

The game itself is great but people can't enjoy it because of the face. It's a personal preference problem that Bioware IS working to fix despite the hate.

Arguably and I'm inclined to agree, but can you really blame them?  For some they don't know much else to think. Plus they overly frustrated they're unable to enjoy a game they've been waiting 2 years for.  To say they aren't fans is ridiculous. These people are equally as much fans as the people that just use Sheploo.  The only difference is that these people are more involved with the ME universe because they placed a personal creation into the game that allowed them to do so. 

To dismiss their feelings that the game is effectively ruined is to just gloss over, marginalize, and invalidate their opinions.  How f'ed is that?

And yeah I don't disagree with you that BW is taking the effort. I don't think anyone is gonna deny that. Like I said, people want new information.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Latin Mafia III wrote...
It's a personal preference problem that Bioware IS working to fix despite the hate.

I would say that continuation and all of is a pretty big deal for the franchise. That should mean not ending up with a totally different face. I can't speak for all of the comments made but people have every right to be pissed off. It was lazy on Biowares part for this to slip through.

[Foxhound2020]

Latin Mafia III wrote...

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Latin Mafia III wrote...

What about Skyrim? How many glitches were in that game when it launched? Oh yeah, too many to count. Yet the community stayed patient while the devs worked out a patch. Bioware is an amazing developer, but if their fans are so quick to turn hostile & bash them to no end, then why would they work fast to put out a fix? Obviously there are people out there who could care less about the face import & are thouroughly enjoying the game so they could easily cater to them & not the "fans" that constantly hate on them. They already made their money when you bought the game so technically, they don't have to work out a fix if they don't want to. But they're not like that, they understand that something went wrong with the coding & they are working to fix it FOR YOU. If I remember correctly, the face ID worked fine in the demo so somebody must have screwed up when debugging the game & changed something that threw the system off.

Main point: it doesn't matter if the problem existed 3 months ago, 6 months ago or 1 year ago, they are working on a fix & you should be greatful that they are despite all the negativity.

Because if they failed to do so it would tarnish any good will they earned over the years and be a major hypocrisy to their holding themselves out as listening to their consumers/fans if they didn't push out a fix.  I don't think people are being per se ingrates. 

They just want information.  Especially information that goes beyond: "We think it's broken because of X",  "Yep, it's broken because of X"  and from information that was derived roughly, what, 25 days ago by someone outside the dev team.

I don't think that's unreasonable at all.

It's not unreasonable, but people calling Bioware lazy, uncaring & other things of that nature is rediculous. These so called "fans" are not fans at all & are just grumpy people who are upset that their new Shepard looks different than their old Shepard. I understand that it is a big issue but to say that the entire game (Including gameplay, storyline, graphics, mechanics, voice acting etc) is ruined for them because they can't make their Shepard look the same is a HUGE stretch.

The game itself is great but people can't enjoy it because of the face. It's a personal preference problem that Bioware IS working to fix despite the hate.

You don't understand really. Many people, including myself, would have never bought Mass Effect 2 or 3 if it wasn't for the import function, so yes it does break the game for them. Just as many people would have never bought the game if it wasn't called Mass Effect or didn't have Shepard in it.

[Latin Mafia III]

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Latin Mafia III wrote...

It's not unreasonable, but people calling Bioware lazy, uncaring & other things of that nature, it's rediculous. These so called "fans" are not fans at all & are just grumpy people who are upset that their new Shepard looks different than their old Shepard. I understand that it is a big issue but to say that the entire game (Including gameplay, storyline, graphics, mechanics, voice acting etc) is ruined for them because they can't make their Shepard look the same is a HUGE stretch.

The game itself is great but people can't enjoy it because of the face. It's a personal preference problem that Bioware IS working to fix despite the hate.

Arguably and I'm inclined to agree, but can you really blame them?  For some they don't know much else to think. Plus they overly frustrated they're unable to enjoy a game they've been waiting 2 years for.  To say they aren't fans is ridiculous. These people are equally as much fans as the people that just use Sheploo.  The only difference is that these people are more involved with the ME universe because they placed a personal creation into the game that allowed them to do so. 

To dismiss their feelings that the game is effectively ruined is to just gloss over, marginalize, and invalidate their opinions.  How f'ed is that?

And yeah I don't disagree with you that BW is taking the effort. I don't think anyone is gonna deny that. Like I said, people want new information.

Nobody is dissmissing them. They have a legit reason to be upset about this. I'm just simply pointing out that it's not fair to bash an entire game & its developer because one feature that you care about doesn't work correctly. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be upset, I'm just saying that they shouldn't base the entire game's quality based on that one feature.

[JBauer24Tactics]

We need an update with an ETA.

[Stonesoundjam]

We need to get Al-Jaalani on the case of the patch.

[ordna]

Latin Mafia III, You really seem to miss the point. You do Your work and then You get paid for it. Not vice versa! The fact is that ME3 was not ready when they put it on sale. Obviously You can't miss such a huge mistake in the software testing phase. The launch date for the game was set and, no matter what, they wanted to hold on that date (because, if You look at all that fuzz and ridicoulus marketing hype, then You can see that delaying the launch is not an option considering financial impact that it might cause).

Unfortunatley ME3 is not the first or the last game which will be released before the software is (lets say) complete. I am not a hardcore gamer, but I have been playing videogames since the mid 90s, and, what I have noticed, is that in the last 5-7 years the tendecy is "lets launch the technically incomplete game and fix it with the patches if the buyers make too much noise about the problems". The whole process is nowadays dictated by people/companies who got the money to make more money, not the people who put their soul in it (they just have to do what they are told). That is seen for example, if You look at the time between sequels. It is decreased 2 to 3 times. "The first game was success. Lets make the sequel fast and with minimal production costs, because the profit is then n-times bigger". After the first success they start to sell the brand not the content and quality (and usually the people behind the process change).
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Anyway, back to ME3 (which is THE WORST in the trilogy ). I have a Xbox360 version of the game and (like everybody else who has been playing the same character since the ME1) I am having the face import issue. I tried the KunamiMata method and here is the result, which is not anything close to the original custom character:

img37.imageshack.us/img37/8781/ipiv.jpg

Modifié par ordna, 10 mars 2012 - 09:32 .

[ThinkIntegral]

Latin Mafia III wrote...

Nobody is dissmissing them. They have a legit reason to be upset about this. I'm just simply pointing out that it's not fair to bash an entire game & its developer because one feature that you care about doesn't work correctly. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be upset, I'm just saying that they shouldn't base the entire game's quality based on that one feature.

Why not?  Isn't it a very important if not essential component of the game?  It's been touted directly or indirectly as a feature in the previous two games.  So why isn't it fair to bash the entire game and developer when they held it out themselves as a reason for anyone to play the Mass Effect games?

ETA: Also, that they've had a collective 4 years of knowing through these forums how attached the fans of the series are to their custom made Shepards

Modifié par ThinkIntegral, 10 mars 2012 - 09:31 .

[Latin Mafia III]

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Latin Mafia III wrote...

Nobody is dissmissing them. They have a legit reason to be upset about this. I'm just simply pointing out that it's not fair to bash an entire game & its developer because one feature that you care about doesn't work correctly. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be upset, I'm just saying that they shouldn't base the entire game's quality based on that one feature.

Why not?  Isn't it a very important if not essential component of the game?  It's been touted directly or indirectly as a feature in the previous two games.  So why isn't it fair to bash the entire game and developer when they held it out themselves as a reason for anyone to play the Mass Effect games?

ETA: Also, that they've had a collective 4 years of knowing through these forums how attached the fans of the series are to their custom made Shepards

So you're saying that the gameplay machanics are horrible because the face is wrong? The voice acting is horrible because the face is wrong? The story is horrible because the face is wrong? The graphics are horrible because the face is wrong?

You see how odd the sounds? Like I said, I understand that people are angry with this feature not working but if you take each component out of context & judged them seperately, most would agree that everything besides the face import feature is great.

That's like hating an entire book because you didn't like the cover of it so now it's unreadable.

Modifié par Latin Mafia III, 10 mars 2012 - 09:38 .

[Ashaman X]

My Shep in ME1 was one of the presets tweaked slightly. I just started up now and imported, only to be hit with this sad bug. In my case the face imported, but had serious changes: green eyes went to brown, no beard went to beard and so on. I tried playing around a bit in the CC, but I can't get close to what he looks like.

I think I'm going to need to reinstall ME2 and get some screenshots of what Shep looked like. It's been almost a year since my final ME2 playthough.

Sigh

[Foxhound2020]

Latin Mafia III wrote...

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Latin Mafia III wrote...

Nobody is dissmissing them. They have a legit reason to be upset about this. I'm just simply pointing out that it's not fair to bash an entire game & its developer because one feature that you care about doesn't work correctly. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be upset, I'm just saying that they shouldn't base the entire game's quality based on that one feature.

Why not?  Isn't it a very important if not essential component of the game?  It's been touted directly or indirectly as a feature in the previous two games.  So why isn't it fair to bash the entire game and developer when they held it out themselves as a reason for anyone to play the Mass Effect games?

ETA: Also, that they've had a collective 4 years of knowing through these forums how attached the fans of the series are to their custom made Shepards

So you're saying that the gameplay machanics are horrible because the face is wrong? The voice acting is horrible because the face is wrong? The story is horrible because the face is wrong? The graphics are horrible because the face is wrong?

You see how odd the sounds? Like I said, I understand that people are angry with this feature not working but if you take each component out of context & judged them seperately, most would agree that everything besides the face import feature is great.

That's like not enjoying a book because you didn't like the cover of it so now it's unreadable.

What good is it to me that Gears of War has gameplay mechanics. What good is it if Gears of War has voice acting? What good is it that Gears of War has a good story? What good is it if Gears of War has good graphics?

That all sounds great and very interesting, but Gears of War doesn't have Shepard in it. If Mass Effect 3 wasn't going to have Shepard in it then it's not Mass Effect and it's broken.

Modifié par Foxhound2020, 10 mars 2012 - 09:45 .

[Ryuna]

colouroflife wrote...

What we need is not patience but
what we need is PRESSURE ! Otherwise we may well have to wait for months
at least, if we are lucky. We purchased a complete software, not a beta
one and no customer has to know about software codes or how difficult
to re-write them.

Give us our Shepards back!
VOTE HERE TO SHOW BIOWARE WERE NOT HAPPY.
http://social.biowar...20/polls/29029/


And spread this around!!
http://www.fixmasseffect3.com/

[essefar]

Latin Mafia III wrote...

Main point: it doesn't matter if the problem existed 3 months ago, 6 months ago or 1 year ago, they are working on a fix & you should be greatful that they are despite all the negativity.

This makes me laugh out loud, it's so... unassertive.

We've been sold a product that doesn't work. It's not that it has a minor bug here or there - you can't even *begin* the game because your Shep doesn't import correctly from previous games. For some it's the face that's way off, for some it's the decisions that are wrong, and some folks can't import at all.

By all accounts Bioware/EA knew this aspect didn't work (someone linked a thread which raised it weeks ago), but kept it quiet and continued to spend time, money and resources on media-hype and DLC instead. That lacks integrity.

There are an unknown number of people sitting on very fat bank balances full of our money, having sold us this product which they knew didn't work properly. I'm not happy about that: I'm broke, this game was a huge luxury for me, and I got screwed.

In my country, it is not okay to sell faulty merchandise: there are laws against it.
Bioware/EA absolutely *do* have an obligation to fix their product - or withdraw it and refund those affected. Whether they want to go the extra mile and take responsbility, explain themselves, apologise and try to make amends in a way which repairs their damaged goodwill depends on their collective integrity (and interest in future sales).

I now have a refund for my game.

Modifié par essefar, 10 mars 2012 - 10:14 .

[ThinkIntegral]

Latin Mafia III wrote...

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Latin Mafia III wrote...

Nobody is dissmissing them. They have a legit reason to be upset about this. I'm just simply pointing out that it's not fair to bash an entire game & its developer because one feature that you care about doesn't work correctly. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be upset, I'm just saying that they shouldn't base the entire game's quality based on that one feature.

Why not?  Isn't it a very important if not essential component of the game?  It's been touted directly or indirectly as a feature in the previous two games.  So why isn't it fair to bash the entire game and developer when they held it out themselves as a reason for anyone to play the Mass Effect games?

ETA: Also, that they've had a collective 4 years of knowing through these forums how attached the fans of the series are to their custom made Shepards

So you're saying that the gameplay machanics are horrible because the face is wrong? The voice acting is horrible because the face is wrong? The story is horrible because the face is wrong? The graphics are horrible because the face is wrong?

You see how odd the sounds? Like I said, I understand that people are angry with this feature not working but if you take each component out of context & judged them seperately, most would agree that everything besides the face import feature is great.

That's like hating an entire book because you didn't like the cover of it so now it's unreadable.

Well depends on how you're defining horrible.  Initially you said "ruined" and perhaps that's where I may have misinterpreted your words.  I took "ruined" to apply to the experience of the game.  Gameplay mechanics I can't argue with you on that because yes you're right that's a separate issue, but everything else, to a degree is somewhat justified, because as far as Shepard is concerned a good chunk in this thread are  unhappy with the result and the cognitive dissonance it creates.  Btw, I think Shepard's face looks like **** compared to the texture and depth of say Anderson, Ashley, Vega, at least mine does.

So in that vein yeah it's effectively ruined because of the very personal nature these people had with the first two games and their custom Shepards.  As for the book analogy, I think it's more fitting to say it's like hating a book that's part of a series because in the first paragraph you learn the main protagonist you've been following dies and is replaced by someone new.

[Mingolo]

Latin Mafia III wrote...

That's like hating an entire book because you didn't like the cover of it so now it's unreadable.

To be fair, it's like hating an entire book because it is the final book in a trilogy and the main character was suddenly changed in the last book with no explanation. Or hating a series/movie franchise because the actor that played the main character left and was replaced by another similar guy. The new guy may act like the old one, may do what the old one did, may pretend that he's the same guy and even look kind of like the old one if they were careful to pick a guy that did, but it is not the one you know or who you recognize as that character.


And I agree, whoever made fixmasseffect3.com should definitely use this picture (are you there? put this in your site):

Modifié par Mingolo, 10 mars 2012 - 09:55 .

[Levitusm]

Latin Mafia III wrote...

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Latin Mafia III wrote...

Nobody is dissmissing them. They have a legit reason to be upset about this. I'm just simply pointing out that it's not fair to bash an entire game & its developer because one feature that you care about doesn't work correctly. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be upset, I'm just saying that they shouldn't base the entire game's quality based on that one feature.

Why not?  Isn't it a very important if not essential component of the game?  It's been touted directly or indirectly as a feature in the previous two games.  So why isn't it fair to bash the entire game and developer when they held it out themselves as a reason for anyone to play the Mass Effect games?

ETA: Also, that they've had a collective 4 years of knowing through these forums how attached the fans of the series are to their custom made Shepards

So you're saying that the gameplay machanics are horrible because the face is wrong? The voice acting is horrible because the face is wrong? The story is horrible because the face is wrong? The graphics are horrible because the face is wrong?

You see how odd the sounds? Like I said, I understand that people are angry with this feature not working but if you take each component out of context & judged them seperately, most would agree that everything besides the face import feature is great.

That's like hating an entire book because you didn't like the cover of it so now it's unreadable.

What are you even doing here? This is a thread to demonstrate to BioWare how fans are unhappy with the fact that this mechanism doesn't work as they were lead to believe it would. You're mentioning mechanics and graphics. If you're not upset with the issue move on. People are upset. Loyal fans that have spent their hard-earned money on a game that has a major issue that takes away from the experience that is Mass Effect 3. We've become attached to our characters, enjoyed exploring the galaxy as them, and feel like this is a personally important part of the game. If you're not upset about this issue and/or wish to express that you're upset, share sentiments with other players, or generally don't think it's a big deal then you have no reason to argue or be present in the discussion.

[Latin Mafia III]

Foxhound2020 wrote...

Latin Mafia III wrote...

ThinkIntegral wrote...

Latin Mafia III wrote...

Nobody is dissmissing them. They have a legit reason to be upset about this. I'm just simply pointing out that it's not fair to bash an entire game & its developer because one feature that you care about doesn't work correctly. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be upset, I'm just saying that they shouldn't base the entire game's quality based on that one feature.

Why not?  Isn't it a very important if not essential component of the game?  It's been touted directly or indirectly as a feature in the previous two games.  So why isn't it fair to bash the entire game and developer when they held it out themselves as a reason for anyone to play the Mass Effect games?

ETA: Also, that they've had a collective 4 years of knowing through these forums how attached the fans of the series are to their custom made Shepards

So you're saying that the gameplay machanics are horrible because the face is wrong? The voice acting is horrible because the face is wrong? The story is horrible because the face is wrong? The graphics are horrible because the face is wrong?

You see how odd the sounds? Like I said, I understand that people are angry with this feature not working but if you take each component out of context & judged them seperately, most would agree that everything besides the face import feature is great.

That's like not enjoying a book because you didn't like the cover of it so now it's unreadable.

What good is it to me that Gears of War has gameplay mechanics. What good is it if Gears of War has voice acting? What good is it that Gears of War has a good story? What good is it if Gears of War has good graphics?

That all sounds great and very interesting, but Gears of War doesn't have Shepard in it. If Mass Effect 3 wasn't going to have Shepard in it then it's not Mass Effect and it's broken.

Assassin's Creed 2 didn't have Altair in it, but was it still an Assassin's Creed game? Assassin's Creed 3 won't have Ezio in it, but will it still be an Assassin's Creed game?

Bioware already hinted that there would be more games set in the Mass Effect universe which may or may not feature the Shepard you created, will it still be Mass Effect if it doesn't? While the main character is important, it's not the only component to Mass Effect. It's a big component & an importent one, but not the only one. What good would Mass Effect 3 be if it only took pace on Earth & you couldn't get on the Normandy & see other worlds & other aliens? Would be a pretty ****ty Mass Effect game even if the face import worked.