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Okay, may I know why ME3 is getting bad reviews? (no spoilers)


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Mr. MannlyMan

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So far, the game feels very rushed compared to the previous two. Gameplay and customization is great, but the flow of the story and the dialogue just feels... way, way undercooked. Add to that the issue with imports not working, and co-op being the most refined part of the game, and...

Well, so far I'd give it a 7.5/10. That mostly comes from the co-op, though. The main campaign I'd give a 6.5 or a 7 thus far. Really disappointed, actually. :/

I just cleared Palaven, so I hope things start to get better from here.

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Haters gunna hate. Play it. It's pure greatness. Has it's flaws, but they are oh SO greatly outnumbered by it's merits.

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BubbleDncr wrote...

What I noticed from breifly looking at the meta critic page, is that people giving it low scores are complaing about the ending. I have no idea how these people could have beaten the game already. I mean, if they have, they had to have skipped a lot of content, which is maybe why the ending is crap for them.


Nope, IGN has somewhere around 71 videos embedded into their ME3 strategy guide, including all 3 possible endings. Suffice it to say, the endings...could've been better.

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If people want an honest and truthful review of the game from a valued source I tend to find that the best input is from Fans of the Series who can provide valid points of what was missing and wrong and what was new and good, and Can do so with out turning it into but my favorite character didn't get enough screen time.


When I play ME3 the first time, I've got a note book with my choices from ME1 and my choices from ME2 and who from ME1 showed up in ME2, and I'm also going to be looking for certain things that I feel made the game series so great. I'm also gonna cover how well the combat system works, the customization.
But before I do that I'm in the process of a draft about what I liked about ME1 and ME2 and providing my assessments there before my copy of ME3 gets here from Amazon.
If you want to see my thoughts so for PM for a link to where I've got them at online.

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Metacritic is completly wrong total failure this game is awesome. Everyone is giving it great reviews but them.

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gearseffect wrote...

If people want an honest and truthful review of the game from a valued source I tend to find that the best input is from Fans of the Series who can provide valid points of what was missing and wrong and what was new and good, and Can do so with out turning it into but my favorite character didn't get enough screen time.


In other words: bite the bullet, take a stab in the dark and just throw money at the game and play it yourself to determine if you'll actually like it.

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Xarathox wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

If people want an honest and truthful review of the game from a valued source I tend to find that the best input is from Fans of the Series who can provide valid points of what was missing and wrong and what was new and good, and Can do so with out turning it into but my favorite character didn't get enough screen time.


In other words: bite the bullet, take a stab in the dark and just throw money at the game and play it yourself to determine if you'll actually like it.

 So far it's the best ME game if that's not enough of an endorsement you don't like ME enough to buy the game.

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SilentWolfie wrote...

Some honest feedbacks please, by non zealous bioware fans. I already got the game but I guess I want to brace myself for impact...


So is it because of the bad story? Or gameplay? Or day 1 DLC (seriously, this is the LARGEST crowd disservice possible)? Or the part where it keeps connecting to the EA servers for verification each time you play or some hidden hassle?

I peeked at the numbers of ME3 @ metacritics, and whoa... there were reallllly bad scores. Another question I have is whether ME3 is similar to DA2 in terms of character development, you know pick different choices and everything still come out the same. I really hated DA2, and heavens, I hope there's nothing like that here. If that's the case, I'm going to preordering blindly on any bioware games from now on.

So to bioware, seriously, I want a RPG so I hope your game is a RPG and not FPS, yeah?


Well metacritic is just not reliable. It definitely isn't as much of an RPG as ME2. I haven't gotten far enough to know a lot about character development but there tends to be fewer options and opportunities to talk to your crew it seems. The scanning sucks and some side missions time-out (meaning after a certain point in the game, they cannot be completed) but you aren't really told which ones do that or when they will become impossible to complete. If you are told, it isn't made very clear. Besides those few issues, the game is pretty awesome. 

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Maybe I am in the minority here, but the story pacing issues I had with ME2 are simply not present in ME3, meaning ME3 is actually exciting. Not sure where people are saying its undercooked, except for the fact that many have crazy expectations.

So far, at least for myself, I am loving this a lot more than ME2, and much closer in fun factor to ME1, but that's just me.

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The Executioner wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

If people want an honest and truthful review of the game from a valued source I tend to find that the best input is from Fans of the Series who can provide valid points of what was missing and wrong and what was new and good, and Can do so with out turning it into but my favorite character didn't get enough screen time.


In other words: bite the bullet, take a stab in the dark and just throw money at the game and play it yourself to determine if you'll actually like it.

 So far it's the best ME game if that's not enough of an endorsement you don't like ME enough to buy the game.


I'll be honest, I'm tired of the series. Most likely, this'll be the last game in the franchise I'll buy.

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Xarathox wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

If people want an honest and truthful review of the game from a valued source I tend to find that the best input is from Fans of the Series who can provide valid points of what was missing and wrong and what was new and good, and Can do so with out turning it into but my favorite character didn't get enough screen time.


In other words: bite the bullet, take a stab in the dark and just throw money at the game and play it yourself to determine if you'll actually like it.

I didn't say that, I was attempting to say that find someone who has the same very close view as what made the series great and if they can articulate it well enough and aply it to what was missing in ME3 and what worked good and what was a good idea and did it work or was did it not work.
I'm writing a thing like this on my own blong and attempt to write a very well and thoughtful view of ME3, lets be honest the game has some rather bad press and rumors, and some may be valid and hurt the game for some fans. Well others may think that this is not an issue at all.
As my sig says PM me if you want a link to my blog for my current draft and my soon to be posted draft on what made ME1 and 2 great and what I'll be looking for, as I have an extremly odd sense of duty I'll be glad to take any other fans concerns and be mindful to address them in my ME3 views.

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SilentWolfie wrote...

Some honest feedbacks please, by non zealous bioware fans. I already got the game but I guess I want to brace myself for impact...


So is it because of the bad story? Or gameplay? Or day 1 DLC (seriously, this is the LARGEST crowd disservice possible)? Or the part where it keeps connecting to the EA servers for verification each time you play or some hidden hassle?

I peeked at the numbers of ME3 @ metacritics, and whoa... there were reallllly bad scores. Another question I have is whether ME3 is similar to DA2 in terms of character development, you know pick different choices and everything still come out the same. I really hated DA2, and heavens, I hope there's nothing like that here. If that's the case, I'm going to preordering blindly on any bioware games from now on.

So to bioware, seriously, I want a RPG so I hope your game is a RPG and not FPS, yeah?


I also wanted a RPG, but ME3 feels more as a shooter then a RPG. The RPG mechanincs are there, but they feel very shallow. Dialogues are often automated by the game and I feel more like a viewer of a interactive movie then actually playing the game. I do get some kinds of DA2 vibes about the game when it comes to the RPG part as I do feel the rpg part in ME3 is shallow and close to non existant. I haven't played the game through yet and I do hope this changes during play but so far it feels more like I'm player a shooter with simple RPG mechanics then a RP. :/

But by all means it is a damn good shooter game, it just isn't a good RPG game so far :/

One of the best reviews I have seen of the game is this

http://www.pcpowerpl...-mass-effect-3/

It nails Mass effect spot on on it's weak points and good points.

Modifié par Crashloop_No, 07 mars 2012 - 09:36 .


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People are disappointed about the endings. It's like driving a car on a freeway and you're going 100 miles per hour and then suddenly the road ahead vanishes and you fall into a hole. Just like that.

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The Executioner wrote...

Metacritic is completly wrong total failure this game is awesome. Everyone is giving it great reviews but them.


ME3 has a 94% at metacritics...

Trolls are tricking people by linking the user-reviews which were review bombed by /v/, so they won't buy the game.


Some honest feedbacks please, by non zealous bioware fans.


Okay.

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Modifié par BuffPhantoms, 07 mars 2012 - 09:44 .


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Legendaryred wrote...

People are disappointed about the endings. It's like driving a car on a freeway and you're going 100 miles per hour and then suddenly the road ahead vanishes and you fall into a hole. Just like that.


^

It depends. Most fans don't like the endings, few do.

I personally think that they leave a few questions unanswered and they're overall poorly executed. (there's a major flaw/plothole/bug in them, i'll just say "teleportation")

Modifié par _Martyr_, 07 mars 2012 - 10:01 .


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_Martyr_ wrote...

Legendaryred wrote...

People are disappointed about the endings. It's like driving a car on a freeway and you're going 100 miles per hour and then suddenly the road ahead vanishes and you fall into a hole. Just like that.


^

This, as long as you're NOT a ME3 fan the endings will be nice. If you love the series and the crew, you'll get a nasty surprise.


i dont think thats right at all. im a huge mass effect fan and i liked the endings

dont start jumping the gun that you speak for all mass effect fans please because that will NOT end well for you

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Tazzmission


Jesus christ, you again? I'll edit my post just to avoid another flame war.

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Basically they dumbed down the game to appeal to the COD/GOW crowd. The endings are also pretty much the same space magic BS only with different colors. Plus the Normandy bit. Honestly this is the last Bioware game I'll buy. The game does have its moments but it is in no way a 10/10 but what do I know?

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_Martyr_ wrote...

Tazzmission


Jesus christ, you again? I'll edit my post just to avoid another flame war.


Good. Because what he said was spot on.

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Fojos- wrote...

Abirn wrote...

I trust user reviews more than I trust "professional" reviewers.

@ Repearized Miranda. The game isn't perfect but if the reviewers are honest then why are some of them giving it a 10/10?


Again, you actually believe all of them are doing it for money? How come they've given plenty other EA games low ratings then? Lowest for ME3 so far has been 8.5.

I don't see how you can trust user reviews more when it's mainly 12-year olds who haven't even played the game that are angry about male-on-male relations and day 1 DLC.


It's 8 now.

I think you will see more of that over the coming days as those not part of the pre-release reviews become involved and balance out the release reviews that rely on publisher "goodwill".

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One hears rumors like "4chan coordinated" with regards to many of the user reviews over at Metacritic. You can safely rule out all the 0's and 1's as not being of much (any) value. However, that doesn't mean that every single comment out there has been made purely out of spite, as some would like to believe. I've seen several opinions from disappointed players who ranked the game as 4 or 5, and at the very least tried to justify their points. Yeah, a 4 or a 5 is still very harsh, but I could understand where it comes from (die auto-dialogue!).

As for the "professional" reviews, it's a mixed bag. With so many websites out there, some of the write-ups are not much better (let alone professional) than what your average gamer could come up with. And those which are come from people who have to tread lightly more often than not, lest they fall out of favor with the publisher (if they decide to go "too far").
I think that one of the main issues nowadays is the fact that we see anything below 8/10 as kind of lackluster. For many a 7 is downright abyssmal. Hell, even that 8 is pretty often considered a so-so result. It's fairly uncommon for big releases to be viewed differently.

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makalathbonagin wrote...

autodialogue ...autodialogue everywhere
srsly i want to play the game on my PC not to watch a freakin movie with bad graphics


buy the game, register it, until then, be happy you can watch a freking movie without someone shooting you in the head

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Crashloop_No wrote...

SilentWolfie wrote...

Some honest feedbacks please, by non zealous bioware fans. I already got the game but I guess I want to brace myself for impact...


So is it because of the bad story? Or gameplay? Or day 1 DLC (seriously, this is the LARGEST crowd disservice possible)? Or the part where it keeps connecting to the EA servers for verification each time you play or some hidden hassle?

I peeked at the numbers of ME3 @ metacritics, and whoa... there were reallllly bad scores. Another question I have is whether ME3 is similar to DA2 in terms of character development, you know pick different choices and everything still come out the same. I really hated DA2, and heavens, I hope there's nothing like that here. If that's the case, I'm going to preordering blindly on any bioware games from now on.

So to bioware, seriously, I want a RPG so I hope your game is a RPG and not FPS, yeah?


I also wanted a RPG, but ME3 feels more as a shooter then a RPG. The RPG mechanincs are there, but they feel very shallow. Dialogues are often automated by the game and I feel more like a viewer of a interactive movie then actually playing the game. I do get some kinds of DA2 vibes about the game when it comes to the RPG part as I do feel the rpg part in ME3 is shallow and close to non existant. I haven't played the game through yet and I do hope this changes during play but so far it feels more like I'm player a shooter with simple RPG mechanics then a RP. :/

But by all means it is a damn good shooter game, it just isn't a good RPG game so far :/

One of the best reviews I have seen of the game is this

http://www.pcpowerpl...-mass-effect-3/

It nails Mass effect spot on on it's weak points and good points.





Finally, I got to read a decent, honest review. Thanks for that link.

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I'm going to be upfront with this as a Fan since ME1 I'd dock the game 1 point just for all the autodialogue, that's the only thing as of yet (given I haven't played it, but seen hours of streaming footage) That I can say right now is gonna hurt the game for me.

As a fan the dialogue was something that made this game great for me. IF I had to do something I wasn't just told to do it and then had to run off and do it, I could ask why it had to be done, I felt more like an equal as opposed to another Master Chief or Marcus Fenix due to the dialogue options.
The Massive Amount of autodialogue is gonna be an issue for many fans.

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Abirn wrote...

I trust user reviews more than I trust "professional" reviewers.

@ Repearized Miranda. The game isn't perfect but if the reviewers are honest then why are some of them giving it a 10/10?


You've obviously never heard of meta-bombing then.

Advice: Don't base your opinion of a game on Metacritic. Unfortunately what used to be a good site for gamers to be honest and to get an unbiased review of games has turned into a circus show.