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The PLC wrote...

Do people even care about the user score on Metacritic? It's useless.

Trolls care, so they can point to the low scores for validation.

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The PLC wrote...

Do people even care about the user score on Metacritic? It's useless.


This. 

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http://www.metacriti...0/mass-effect-3



The first day the game comes out and Negative score ranging from zeroes to 2 have outnumbered the positive scores. Reminds me a bit of DA 2. But still, something's making them go nuts. I'm coming to the conclussion that most of these people haven't even played the game.

Heck I haven't even seen my Preorder yet, but somehow people have played enough to form a decent opinion(which only people who have pirated it, and space edition users can provide reviews this early)

*snip*

My money's on some group sturring trouble because of first day DLC



IGN has a whole bunch of video's embedded into their walkthrough (70+). The likelyhood that that's where they're getting most of their information regarding the game, is astronomical.

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It doesn't excuse the shinanigans of giving ME3 a zero, or making ridiculously vacuous comments, but at some point you do have to stop and ask yourself - why are they doing this to me?

Modifié par davidshooter, 07 mars 2012 - 06:35 .


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LOL anyone take them seriously?
Honestly its bad enough to go on a gigantic rant about how the fact that ME3 exist is ruining society as we know it.
But then you have those who don't even talk about the game and use that space as their own personal blog.
I'm going to give this game a 0 because Obama ruined the economy.

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davidshooter wrote...

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It doesn't excuse the shinanigans of giving ME3 a zero, or making ridiculously vacuous comments, but at some point you do have to stop and ask yourself - why are they doing this to me?


This is what I was thinking. GTA4, Skyrim, Red dead, and Fallout have good user scores compared to their critic score. This is clear frustration not just trolls

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I've played probably 10% of the game so far and my current rating for it is 7/10. Things like ugly textures, wallpaper skies, bad animation, sound popping out issues, etc. are ruining my experience. And I can feel for those users who are giving ME3 horrible ratings. Some are justified but others are just pure haters.

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Rorschachinstein wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

Skyrim critic 96
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It doesn't excuse the shinanigans of giving ME3 a zero, or making ridiculously vacuous comments, but at some point you do have to stop and ask yourself - why are they doing this to me?


This is what I was thinking. GTA4, Skyrim, Red dead, and Fallout have good user scores compared to their critic score. This is clear frustration not just trolls

Skyrim is fully moddable and doesn't have DLCs as far as I have seen. And it's cheaper than ME3. There are many reasons people can hate Bioware games without regard to quality. That's like saying Ferrari is crap because it's expensive. The funny thing is the only thing people have to do is wait until the game gets cheaper. But instead we get day one 'reviews' from people who supposedly finished the game before it even released.

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davidshooter wrote...

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It doesn't excuse the shinanigans of giving ME3 a zero, or making ridiculously vacuous comments, but at some point you do have to stop and ask yourself - why are they doing this to me?

Its a Bioware thing, they in all honesty have the worst, "fans" in the industry. Most are just mad that Bioware still hasn't made Baldur's Gate 3 so they hate on everything else.

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AlexXIV wrote...

Rorschachinstein wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

Skyrim critic 96
Skyrim user 84

It doesn't excuse the shinanigans of giving ME3 a zero, or making ridiculously vacuous comments, but at some point you do have to stop and ask yourself - why are they doing this to me?


This is what I was thinking. GTA4, Skyrim, Red dead, and Fallout have good user scores compared to their critic score. This is clear frustration not just trolls

Skyrim is fully moddable and doesn't have DLCs as far as I have seen. And it's cheaper than ME3. There are many reasons people can hate Bioware games without regard to quality. That's like saying Ferrari is crap because it's expensive. The funny thing is the only thing people have to do is wait until the game gets cheaper. But instead we get day one 'reviews' from people who supposedly finished the game before it even released.


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Conduit0 wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

Skyrim critic 96
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It doesn't excuse the shinanigans of giving ME3 a zero, or making ridiculously vacuous comments, but at some point you do have to stop and ask yourself - why are they doing this to me?

Its a Bioware thing, they in all honesty have the worst, "fans" in the industry. Most are just mad that Bioware still hasn't made Baldur's Gate 3 so they hate on everything else.


Bah, I would hate BW if they made BG3 now. The time span since the last title has been too long, series has lost its magic. Same with Diablo 3. I will never play it, due to there being a ****ing decade in between the last time I even cared for those games.  <_<

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The hate on the same sex relationships is just disgusting and disturbing. Seriously, who are they to decide how a person decides to play with a game? Mass Effect is about making it your experience, even if you happen to have been born gay. I am straight myself, but few things upset me more then things like homophobia.

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Conduit0 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Do people even care about the user score on Metacritic? It's useless.

Trolls care, so they can point to the low scores for validation.


You seriously, cant be serious. You just cant...
Obviously you have to take the score with a pinch of salt, but user score once thousands of reviews have been posted is a MUCH more accurate scoring system for the game. Professional reviewers simply cannot be trusted. This is a fact. I stopped looking at 'professional' reviews about 10 years ago because of consistently innaccurate reviews. Bad reviews of fantastic games, and outstanding reviews of awful games.
The masses in all their glory, with Ragers, Trolls, Fanboys and everything in between have a way of revealing the truth of things. Its mathematics, averages = truth. You just need enough data.
I personally only ever buy a game if it's user score on metacritic (with enough votes) is over 7, and I'm never upset by my purchases. ME3 is an exception because I love the franchise so much.

PS: We will see in a week or two the truth of the matter, once the user score isnt filled with ragers. Once some level headed people get on there and give some real reviews.
The most accurate metacritic (For both 'professional' false reviews and user accurate ones) is DA2.

Modifié par Axeface, 07 mars 2012 - 07:16 .


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Secondly, I do believe it's the pirate community infesting the internet. Most of these people also believe that life and everything else is for free. Thirdly, gamers from both the EU and Australia are soon up for the fight (8th mars). In the end pirate and troll's opinions doesn't count because they are not paying anyway why should they have a say.


up until now they made us believe that pirates were responsible for the decline of the game's business by copying games. now they're destroying the whole business just with bad mouthing. wow, those people have to be demigods...

me3 is just a bad and horrible polished product, face it. it even accomplished to be worse than me2. ea edmonton has fallen flat and they won't recover.

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Xarathox wrote...

Conduit0 wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

Skyrim critic 96
Skyrim user 84

It doesn't excuse the shinanigans of giving ME3 a zero, or making ridiculously vacuous comments, but at some point you do have to stop and ask yourself - why are they doing this to me?

Its a Bioware thing, they in all honesty have the worst, "fans" in the industry. Most are just mad that Bioware still hasn't made Baldur's Gate 3 so they hate on everything else.


Bah, I would hate BW if they made BG3 now. The time span since the last title has been too long, series has lost its magic. Same with Diablo 3. I will never play it, due to there being a ****ing decade in between the last time I even cared for those games.  <_<

They could do a redux. Like bringing back Baldur's Gate in a more up-to-date version. 3D and such. Even though they would probably have to make a series of 5 games or such to get all the content from the original in. I think that's also one reason for the trilogies. One game alone can never have 200+ hours gameplay (in and RPG anyway) nowadays. You'd at least have to split it into 3 games. And then you have the problem of actually getting people buy the first game (which isn't a complete game because the game is split) and the sequels (which all would be rather disappointing if played standalone for the same reason). You'd have to make 3 stand alone games with portable choices and then the trouble starts because people will call the game streamlined because every single game for itself doesn't have as much choices as other stand alone games because the choices have to carry over etc. I think some people just ask for things that they have no clue about in regards on how hard they are to actually do. And then if Bioware tries they don't appreciate the effort but rather rip it apart because it is not everything they dreamed of.

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AlexXIV wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

Conduit0 wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

Skyrim critic 96
Skyrim user 84

It doesn't excuse the shinanigans of giving ME3 a zero, or making ridiculously vacuous comments, but at some point you do have to stop and ask yourself - why are they doing this to me?

Its a Bioware thing, they in all honesty have the worst, "fans" in the industry. Most are just mad that Bioware still hasn't made Baldur's Gate 3 so they hate on everything else.


Bah, I would hate BW if they made BG3 now. The time span since the last title has been too long, series has lost its magic. Same with Diablo 3. I will never play it, due to there being a ****ing decade in between the last time I even cared for those games.  <_<

They could do a redux. Like bringing back Baldur's Gate in a more up-to-date version. 3D and such. Even though they would probably have to make a series of 5 games or such to get all the content from the original in. I think that's also one reason for the trilogies. One game alone can never have 200+ hours gameplay (in and RPG anyway) nowadays. You'd at least have to split it into 3 games. And then you have the problem of actually getting people buy the first game (which isn't a complete game because the game is split) and the sequels (which all would be rather disappointing if played standalone for the same reason). You'd have to make 3 stand alone games with portable choices and then the trouble starts because people will call the game streamlined because every single game for itself doesn't have as much choices as other stand alone games because the choices have to carry over etc. I think some people just ask for things that they have no clue about in regards on how hard they are to actually do. And then if Bioware tries they don't appreciate the effort but rather rip it apart because it is not everything they dreamed of.


Orly?

I have 220 hours racked up in Skyrim, and there's still **** to do according to my thicker than a phonebook strategy guide.

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You guys can make as many excuses as you like why they are giving low scores but the company IS doing something wrong when there is such an organized albeit unfair reaction. EA for one is generally disliked, the day one DLC's are disrespectful to the fan base, as instead of thanking them they gouge them with cut content and don't argue me on that as it is what it is.(just look to CDproject as the opposite with free dlc's).
Sure zeros are ridiculous and likely anything below 6 is silly, even considering personal tastes, the production values and game play is going to be above average due to the budget and decent writing, better fight mechanics don't hurt either.
But that's how things go when you jack around with some of your fan base. Eventually when they weed their old fan base out that will stop.

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Axeface wrote...

Conduit0 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Do people even care about the user score on Metacritic? It's useless.

Trolls care, so they can point to the low scores for validation.


You seriously, cant be serious. You just cant...
Obviously you have to take the score with a pinch of salt, but user score once thousands of reviews have been posted is a MUCH more accurate scoring system for the game. Professional reviewers simply cannot be trusted. This is a fact. I stopped looking at 'professional' reviews about 10 years ago because of consistently innaccurate reviews. Bad reviews of fantastic games, and outstanding reviews of awful games.
The masses in all their glory, with Ragers, Trolls, Fanboys and everything in between have a way of revealing the truth of things. Its mathematics, averages = truth. You just need enough data.

PS: We will see in a week or two the truth of the matter, once the user score isnt filled with ragers. Once some level headed people get on there and give some real reviews.
The most accurate metacritic (For both 'professional' false reviews and user accurate ones) is DA2.

Yes, because spamming 0's from multiple accounts is a much more reliable and objective metric. Image IPB
The internet is full of MAGIC, because only MAGIC can explain how any professional review a person disagrees with is either bought off, if its a positive review for a game you didn't like, or written by an idiot if its a bad review for a game you do like, but every review that you agree with, EVERY, SINGLE, ONE, is a shining beacon of intelligent and objective writing. MAGIC! Image IPB

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Rorschachinstein wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

Skyrim critic 96
Skyrim user 84

It doesn't excuse the shinanigans of giving ME3 a zero, or making ridiculously vacuous comments, but at some point you do have to stop and ask yourself - why are they doing this to me?


This is what I was thinking. GTA4, Skyrim, Red dead, and Fallout have good user scores compared to their critic score. This is clear frustration not just trolls

You can't be seriouse, there was several pre-planned 4chan raids because of day one dlc.

Metacritic user review will never be taken seriously, and are known as a troll haven.

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the low score is result of /v/ spamming it yesterday, about 24 hours ago the score was 1.6 with over 200 neg 'reviews'.
Now that the mob has mostly drifted away and the people who actually played the game are coming out of the wood work to give a more honest review, I'm not surprised to see the 'user score' go up. It'll probably level out at around 7.3 I'd say before too long.

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Rorschachinstein wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Rorschachinstein wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

Skyrim critic 96
Skyrim user 84

It doesn't excuse the shinanigans of giving ME3 a zero, or making ridiculously vacuous comments, but at some point you do have to stop and ask yourself - why are they doing this to me?


This is what I was thinking. GTA4, Skyrim, Red dead, and Fallout have good user scores compared to their critic score. This is clear frustration not just trolls

Skyrim is fully moddable and doesn't have DLCs as far as I have seen. And it's cheaper than ME3. There are many reasons people can hate Bioware games without regard to quality. That's like saying Ferrari is crap because it's expensive. The funny thing is the only thing people have to do is wait until the game gets cheaper. But instead we get day one 'reviews' from people who supposedly finished the game before it even released.


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LULZ


What are you trying to prove?
You keep posting a screenshopt of the metacritic page like it has merit.
Most of us have decided a long time ago not to take anything anyone who uses Metacritic seriously.
Yes its LULZ worthy that people are so pathetic that they have to tear down something they obviously haven't even touched.

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Hyperbolic whining I'm sure.

ME3 has its flaws, as all games do, but certainly not 0-worthy flaws.

IMO, a 0 would mean the game was literally not playable from a technical standpoint.

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I'm guessing it's also because Bioware got this butthurt part of their fanbase that feel "entitled" to ME3 being exactly how they envisioned it. And when it's not, rage ensues, and they must hurt the game anyway they can to make their point! A nice grown up attitude.

But that's just my opinion though, no need to spread it around... :P

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Conduit0 wrote...
Yes, because spamming 0's from multiple accounts is a much more reliable and objective metric. Image IPB
The internet is full of MAGIC, because only MAGIC can explain how any professional review a person disagrees with is either bought off, if its a positive review for a game you didn't like, or written by an idiot if its a bad review for a game you do like, but every review that you agree with, EVERY, SINGLE, ONE, is a shining beacon of intelligent and objective writing. MAGIC! Image IPB


Thats why my rule is above 7. By your reasoning a user score of 7 should be some kind of shining beacon of gaming heaven.

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

the low score is result of /v/ spamming it yesterday, about 24 hours ago the score was 1.6 with over 200 neg 'reviews'.
Now
that the mob has mostly drifted away and the people who actually played
the game are coming out of the wood work to give a more honest review,
I'm not surprised to see the 'user score' go up. It'll probably level
out at around 7.3 I'd say before too long.


See? Like I said.

Modifié par Axeface, 07 mars 2012 - 07:32 .