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[SpiderFan1217]

The score on Meta is not going to be acurate. Too many people are hateing just for the sake of hateing.

[vivanto]

The only accurate review I can rely on nowadays is Yahtzee's.

[Yuqi]

If metacritic goes crazy after europe has had it for a week or so, then yeah, it might be deserved.

[AlexXIV]

Xarathox wrote...

Orly?

I have 220 hours racked up in Skyrim, and there's still **** to do according to my thicker than a phonebook strategy guide.

I could do the same in DA2 if I take long walks on the beach. Seriously, it is common knowledge that games designed today simply can't mount the same story content as in the old times when graphics were the least important things about a good game and voiceover was basically non-existant. However keep pretending whatever if it makes you happy.

[Rockworm503]

AlexXIV wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

Orly?

I have 220 hours racked up in Skyrim, and there's still **** to do according to my thicker than a phonebook strategy guide.

I could do the same in DA2 if I take long walks on the beach. Seriously, it is common knowledge that games designed today simply can't mount the same story content as in the old times when graphics were the least important things about a good game and voiceover was basically non-existant. However keep pretending whatever if it makes you happy.

There are not enough facepalms in the universe.....

[DJBare]

I see the children are stil bickering on metacritic,

It's a 10!
It's a 0!
It's a 10!
It's a 0!

It's pathetic.

[Xarathox]

Rockworm503 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

Orly?

I have 220 hours racked up in Skyrim, and there's still **** to do according to my thicker than a phonebook strategy guide.

I could do the same in DA2 if I take long walks on the beach. Seriously, it is common knowledge that games designed today simply can't mount the same story content as in the old times when graphics were the least important things about a good game and voiceover was basically non-existant. However keep pretending whatever if it makes you happy.

There are not enough facepalms in the universe.....

Agreed.

Skyrim is packed full of big and small quests/events/triggers/etc, that it's insane.

[Rockworm503]

Xarathox wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

Orly?

I have 220 hours racked up in Skyrim, and there's still **** to do according to my thicker than a phonebook strategy guide.

I could do the same in DA2 if I take long walks on the beach. Seriously, it is common knowledge that games designed today simply can't mount the same story content as in the old times when graphics were the least important things about a good game and voiceover was basically non-existant. However keep pretending whatever if it makes you happy.

There are not enough facepalms in the universe.....

Agreed.

Skyrim is packed full of big and small quests/events/triggers/etc, that it's insane.

Thats not even mentioning the mod community.
If you're on steam this game is heaven with the workshop <3

[Conduit0]

Axeface wrote...

Conduit0 wrote...
Yes, because spamming 0's from multiple accounts is a much more reliable and objective metric.
The internet is full of MAGIC, because only MAGIC can explain how any professional review a person disagrees with is either bought off, if its a positive review for a game you didn't like, or written by an idiot if its a bad review for a game you do like, but every review that you agree with, EVERY, SINGLE, ONE, is a shining beacon of intelligent and objective writing. MAGIC!

Thats why my rule is above 7. By your reasoning a user score of 7 should be some kind of shining beacon of gaming heaven.

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

the low score is result of /v/ spamming it yesterday, about 24 hours ago the score was 1.6 with over 200 neg 'reviews'.
Now
that the mob has mostly drifted away and the people who actually played
the game are coming out of the wood work to give a more honest review,
I'm not surprised to see the 'user score' go up. It'll probably level
out at around 7.3 I'd say before too long.

See? Like I said.

No, I'm simply pointing out the inherent idiocy in the notion that professional game reviews are bought off. It completely ignores the reality that gaming is an extremely subjective thing and one mans great game, is another mans terrible game.

[Farbautisonn]

'The first time someone calls you a horse, you punch him in the mouth"
"The second time someone calls you a horse, you call him an idiot".
"The third time someone calls you a horse... well... maybe you should start shopping for a saddle".

[AlexXIV]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

Orly?

I have 220 hours racked up in Skyrim, and there's still **** to do according to my thicker than a phonebook strategy guide.

I could do the same in DA2 if I take long walks on the beach. Seriously, it is common knowledge that games designed today simply can't mount the same story content as in the old times when graphics were the least important things about a good game and voiceover was basically non-existant. However keep pretending whatever if it makes you happy.

There are not enough facepalms in the universe.....

Agreed.

Skyrim is packed full of big and small quests/events/triggers/etc, that it's insane.

Thats not even mentioning the mod community.
If you're on steam this game is heaven with the workshop <3

Because it's an open world game. Do I have to point out the difference between narrative and open world? How long is the actual main story line? Compare it to BG2. It's really annoying how you have to spell out obvious things to you people. Can't you think for yourself for once? 220 hours is still extremely exaggerated.

[Xarathox]

AlexXIV wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

Orly?

I have 220 hours racked up in Skyrim, and there's still **** to do according to my thicker than a phonebook strategy guide.

I could do the same in DA2 if I take long walks on the beach. Seriously, it is common knowledge that games designed today simply can't mount the same story content as in the old times when graphics were the least important things about a good game and voiceover was basically non-existant. However keep pretending whatever if it makes you happy.

There are not enough facepalms in the universe.....

Agreed.

Skyrim is packed full of big and small quests/events/triggers/etc, that it's insane.

Thats not even mentioning the mod community.
If you're on steam this game is heaven with the workshop <3

Because it's an open world game. Do I have to point out the difference between narrative and open world? How long is the actual main story line? Compare it to BG2. It's really annoying how you have to spell out obvious things to you people. Can't you think for yourself for once? 220 hours is still extremely exaggerated.

I could insult you too, but I won't. I'm above such petty notions.

Also, 220 hours is what I've racked up because of the radiant quests. Because they never run out, kinda like daily quests in MMOs without the wait.

[lucidfox]

vivanto wrote...

The only accurate review I can rely on nowadays is Yahtzee's.

This. Although I'd appreciate if he toned down his faux-machismo.

[AlexXIV]

Xarathox wrote...
I could insult you too, but I won't. I'm above such petty notions.

Also, 220 hours is what I've racked up because of the radiant quests. Because they never run out, kinda like daily quests in MMOs without the wait.

You missed that boat in your post about not enough facepalms. You just get what you ask for from me, be polite and make an actual point instead of a troll comment next time and we can skip the insults.
 
Well if you think MMORPGs are the pinnacle of RPGs/video games then you have a point. I'd go with quality over quantity at any time of the day though.

Edit: Ah nevermind, the other guy was the one with the facepalms, but you agreed, so ...

Modifié par AlexXIV, 07 mars 2012 - 08:24 .

[UKillMeLongTime]

They need a life and perhaps their teeth knocked in
The games great and my guess they are mw3/cod fanboys too

[Apolloin Malhim]

It's clear that there are multiple issues at work here. I'd say that the largest impact right now has to be the organised campaigns in protest against 0-day premium DLC. That said, though, there are multiple issues that are attracting protest:

1. Implementation of Multiplayer in a place where a large portion of the fanbase feels it has no business. This has been expanded because the MP uses the much hated 'trading cards for cash' upgrade system AND has an effect on the SinglePlayer storyline.

2. There seems to be a vocal minority who despise any game with a same-sex romance option. These people are disgusting and bigotted.

3. There seems to be a slightly larger vocal minority who seem unhappy that Bioware's pushback against that vocal-minority has been to declare everything and everyone to be homosexual. I'm not homophobic, personally, but to be honest I'm starting to feel a litlte bit like the protagonist in Joe Haldeman's 'Forever War' when I'm wandering the Normandy.

4. There seem to be a reasonable sized group of customers who are unhappy with the direction of the storyline. Precise complaints vary from de-emphasising much loved characters to cameos, the precise nature of the ending or claims that the story is far more interested in being edgy or clever for its own sake than the satisfaction of its clients.

Obviously one can write off some segments of this protest as misguided or childish, but there does seem to be a legitimate under-current of dissatisfaction that should be acknowledged. Can any ending for such an undertaking possibly be good enough? That's another worthy debating point.

Modifié par Apolloin Malhim, 07 mars 2012 - 08:27 .

[AlexXIV]

Well I have to admit that even Bioware/EA is partly to blame. What people said about MP is right. If SP is lacking and there have been ressources put into MP, then it sucks for everyone who doesn't use or care about MP. MP is a new feature so it wasn't really the demand of the 'original' fanbase. Also their strategy to sell DLC (and I am especially talking about weapon and armor DLC) is really questionable. If it is optional ok, but if you preorder or buy the CE you get weapons and armor DLCs basically forced on you. That's one reason I didn't preorder and won't. I want the core base game to play first and then look at the difference with DLCs. But I will decide which DLCs I want and which I don't want. The fact that they are 'optional content' kind of goes out of the window if you get such 'package deals' only that already sell you pixel weapons for real money. It is kind of greedy business practice tbh.

I honestly don't mind to pay more because I miss out of the preorder or CE or whatever. But I won't pay for things I don't want. I really think Bioware may lose alot of money because of that, because frankly, if they don't charge extra for DLC/base game and therefore sell a couple of millions more copies they even make more money. Pretty much like Bethesda/Skyrim.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 07 mars 2012 - 08:39 .

[Xarathox]

AlexXIV wrote...

Xarathox wrote...
I could insult you too, but I won't. I'm above such petty notions.

Also, 220 hours is what I've racked up because of the radiant quests. Because they never run out, kinda like daily quests in MMOs without the wait.

You missed that boat in your post about not enough facepalms. You just get what you ask for from me, be polite and make an actual point instead of a troll comment next time and we can skip the insults.
 
Well if you think MMORPGs are the pinnacle of RPGs/video games then you have a point. I'd go with quality over quantity at any time of the day though.

I don't think MMOs are the pinnacle of gaming. Far from it, in fact, since the basic design hasn't really changed in well over a decade. But there are some things that could transfer over into single player games to continue playability. Take into account the active mod community surrounding Bethesda, their games have lived well past their shelf life.

Skyrim is that perfect blend right now. A single player game with never ending quests/events and a community that will more than likely (based on track record) continue to add new things to the game over the years.

But this is getting way off track.

[AlexXIV]

Xarathox wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Xarathox wrote...
I could insult you too, but I won't. I'm above such petty notions.

Also, 220 hours is what I've racked up because of the radiant quests. Because they never run out, kinda like daily quests in MMOs without the wait.

You missed that boat in your post about not enough facepalms. You just get what you ask for from me, be polite and make an actual point instead of a troll comment next time and we can skip the insults.
 
Well if you think MMORPGs are the pinnacle of RPGs/video games then you have a point. I'd go with quality over quantity at any time of the day though.

I don't think MMOs are the pinnacle of gaming. Far from it, in fact, since the basic design hasn't really changed in well over a decade. But there are some things that could transfer over into single player games to continue playability. Take into account the active mod community surrounding Bethesda, their games have lived well past their shelf life.

Skyrim is that perfect blend right now. A single player game with never ending quests/events and a community that will more than likely (based on track record) continue to add new things to the game over the years.

But this is getting way off track.

Well I play RPGs for the story mostly, not quests or achievements. So they couldn't motivate me to play in the long run unless they expand on the story.

[Srefanius]

I would give the game a 9/10 but I won't register just to give a score. There are some issues and bugs but who loves story driven games will also love ME3. That said most of the 0/10 people are just haters. The score will go up in the next months and if not, well I don't care and love the game either way.

Modifié par Srefanius, 07 mars 2012 - 08:43 .

[kalle90]

I find it funny zeroes get all the attention. What I see is 10, 10, 0, 0, 10, 0, 10, 0...

If we assume people giving zeroes couldn't have completed the game then how can we assume all the tens are valid? What I see is that trollhaters are fighting against ****s.

[vahnfox]

Rorschachinstein wrote...

DAII all over again

What? No. DA2 was genuinely poor in comparison to DAO. The 0/10 score, yes, that's similar, but people were furious about DA2 because it was bad.

Unless you're trying to imply ME3 is inferior to the prior two games...

[Lotion Soronarr]

Extremists suck... 0 and 10 should be non-selectable scores.

[AlexXIV]

kalle90 wrote...

I find it funny zeroes get all the attention. What I see is 10, 10, 0, 0, 10, 0, 10, 0...

If we assume people giving zeroes couldn't have completed the game then how can we assume all the tens are valid? What I see is that trollhaters are fighting against ****s.

I know it is stupid, but the trolls started it

Honestly I don't vote there and won't. Every vote gives metacritic more credit and in the end we still get a rating that is lower than it should be. The best would have been to ignore it and let all the 0's vote the game to 0.6/10 then it would be plain to see that decent people are boycotting this BS. Unless metacritic deletes all the 0's and 1's it is going to be a biased thing altogether.