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[KingSarevok]

The romances are going to be an integral part of the Dragon Age experience for me, just like in BG2, KOTOR, Mass Effect and Jade Empire.

However, I heard some people saying around here that they were really trying to stay away from romancing a party member as much as possible. Why?

Is it for role-playing reasons? Is it because you find these romances too "cheesy"?

For me, I think the romances in the previous Bioware games were very un-life-like, so I can understand where you're coming from when you say "They're too cheesy for me". However, don't ask me why, but I think that's exactly one of the facts why they fascinate me so much.

In BG2 you had three interesting romances (+ a few interesting mod-romances): Jaheira was a very interesting character (and very resisting at times). Aerie was super-cute and you just HAD TO like her. And Viconia was... well, she was quite different.

The Bastila-Romance was not deep enough but still awesome and a very important part of the game for me.

The romances in Mass Effect were much too short for my tast.

And I can't really remember Jade Empire at all... Although I know there was romance SOMEWHERE in it... Right?

So, anyway, why not romance in Dragon Age? And if you say "No, I don't want to romance." then based on which experience are you trying to avoid them? Were it the KOTOR-romances which made you stay away from more in the future? Was it Mass Effect? It can't possibly be BG2 with these beautiful three characters that these virtual women are, right?

[AlkanineMS]

I don't want to catch virtual STDs.

[Haasth]

I like romance options in games. Heck, I like it in most things like shows and movies too. (Mind you I dislike solely romantic movies/shows). They add to the immersion for me, you get to know two characters better and see them differently (e.g emotionally) than normally. Same goes for games, although it is much less advanced.



I personally liked the Bastila-romance quite a lot. It offered an added conflict to the game, which you could eventually solve for the better or abruptly and cruelly cut short.



The romances in Mass Effect were indeed too short. They were rather 'meh', not much happened there and it was all a little fast.



Jade Empire... I don't think there was a romance option in there actually. At least I can't remember anything from that in terms of romance.



I am glad that Dragon Age: Origins too will have romantic options. I did not read a lot about it, beyond that I know who can be your 'significant other'.

[Herr Uhl]

Haasth wrote...
Jade Empire... I don't think there was a romance option in there actually. At least I can't remember anything from that in terms of romance. 

There were plenty of romances there.

The Bastila one I kind of stumbled into since I wanted to mess with her. Yes, being a jerk is fun in games .

[Haasth]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Haasth wrote...
Jade Empire... I don't think there was a romance option in there actually. At least I can't remember anything from that in terms of romance. 

There were plenty of romances there.

Hmm.. Well it's been a long time since I played that. Can't say I remember any of them. 

[Naelven]

Romances in video games often come off as romantic novels or soap opera emotive style. It's fake and over the top. As a married man maybe I'm a bit jaded, but I think romance plots in video games are campy at best, and totally ruin the gaming experience at worst. On top of all this, the plausibility of having a romantic relationship while also trying to save the world just doesn't fit for me.



But... As long as they don't force the romance plot down my throat I could really care less.

[Count Viceroy]

AlkanineMS wrote...

I don't want to catch virtual STDs.

Wear a virtual condom.

[casadechrisso]

Well, some like this, some like that... I'd never make a strenght-based tank character, but others love them. Same goes for romantic plots I guess. Personally, I like them a lot, although they never satisfied me. They seem to be written for teenagers, frankly, and I'm not talking about "adult content" but about the general interaction. Sure I hit the alien lass in Mass Effect, both as a male and as a female Shepard just for the kicks, and I enjoyed it even though I laughed out loud about how childish it was, even more with that Fox-"scandal" still in my mind. As I said in a different thread, the kid should ride a pony, not Shepard. I almost tried Ashley too, and tried to get my Femshep into liking that guy... sheez, I forgot all the names... well, he too was just too scary, I couldn't get my female char to love someone I, the player, hate with a passion.



As for NWN, I think I remember dating Sharwyn, and I had to replay HoTU with a male character after starting with a female elf because I just had to get Nathyrra(sp?).



NWN2: No thanks, no options. I started as a female char and made sure that stupid Paladin NEVER gets into my party unless the game forces me. And I killed Bishop with a passion. The girls weren't attractive enough to justify replaying with a male character, especially not the horrible Shandra (or whatever). Oh, if my female char could've had Sand as an option though... anyway, after NWN2 I thought I'm done with trying out those plotlines, but of course NWN2 was not a Bioware game.



Jade Empire: I never finished it nor did I get far into the game (I really should try it again). From hearsay I remember there are quite a few romance options, even gay.



Well, the romances in all those games are very cheesy, but I guess that makes them fun to play. Others look for some serious saving-the-world and their characters don't have time for this, that's cool, to each their own.

[AlkanineMS]

Count Viceroy wrote...

AlkanineMS wrote...

I don't want to catch virtual STDs.

Wear a virtual condom.

In DA-O that would involve wearing a sheeps skin, no thanks bro.

[Herr Uhl]

AlkanineMS wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

AlkanineMS wrote...

I don't want to catch virtual STDs.

Wear a virtual condom.

In DA-O that would involve wearing a sheeps skin, no thanks bro.

Skin? Surely you jest, a proper medieval condom is made by intestines.

[AlkanineMS]

In that case, I will engage in a sexual relationship. I like Intestines as food, I'm sure they go well with sex.

[MistressMagee]

I can't wait to see how Fox reacts to the gay option. I am curious to see how DO develops this particular strand of romance stereotype. So far I hear they actually stray so far from one character's given personality to fit this stereotype that it ruin the scene. Either way its a step in an interesting direction of sexual orientation choices. Can't wait to play.

[frylock23]

I generally enjoy the romances in games/books/movies; however, there usually isn't a whole lot of depth in the ones I've come across. I can supply the depth in my own mind to make it seem less ... shallow, and this goes for movies, books, and games. In the limited time you have to meet and develop the characters involved, there just isn't time in most cases to provide enough background and interaction to make the base relationship seem plausible. I supply the depth if I get the sense that the characters have been in close proximity to one another long enough, with enough affinity (or enough shared life and death situations), to have developed that deeper, more realistic bond.

[Naelven]

Herr Uhl wrote...

AlkanineMS wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

AlkanineMS wrote...

I don't want to catch virtual STDs.

Wear a virtual condom.

In DA-O that would involve wearing a sheeps skin, no thanks bro.

Skin? Surely you jest, a proper medieval condom is made by intestines.

Yes, but they still called them "sheepskins".  They actually still make them.

Modifié par Naelven, 02 novembre 2009 - 02:32 .

[SpinachEater]

Well, my wife is going to be so PO when she finds out that I am staying up till 4AM playing so I will probably have to choose between game time or luvin time. If I can get some in the game...wapow! Jokes on her.

[Herr Uhl]

Naelven wrote...

Yes, but they still called them "sheepskins".  They actually still make them.

Yes, but using actual sheep skin would chafe... a lot.

[SpinachEater]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Naelven wrote...

Yes, but they still called them "sheepskins".  They actually still make them.

Yes, but using actual sheep skin would chafe... a lot.

Yeah...wool makes me pretty itchy...

[Jacks-Up]

AlkanineMS wrote...

I don't want to catch virtual STDs.

I heard if you get virtual Hep C every character you create in DAO after that has it.  True Story.

[McAdams]

Its good, adds immersion and playability value.

[AKofC]

Baldur's Gate had a great romance setup, same with KotOR.



But in Jade Empire and Mass Effect things just felt weird and awkward, and as such I don't see myself interested in pursuing it this time around.

[KingSarevok]

Naelven wrote...

Romances in video games often come off as romantic novels or soap opera emotive style. It's fake and over the top. As a married man maybe I'm a bit jaded, but I think romance plots in video games are campy at best, and totally ruin the gaming experience at worst. On top of all this, the plausibility of having a romantic relationship while also trying to save the world just doesn't fit for me.

But... As long as they don't force the romance plot down my throat I could really care less.

Wow, isn't "saving the world and finding your loved one while you're at it" one of the main themes in nearly all Hollywood movies? Not that this has to say anything, but to me it just belongs to a great story, that a great hero falls greatly in love. Don't ask me why, it's probably something psychological, remember, all this stuff is some kind of projection.

[KingSarevok]

frylock23 wrote...

I generally enjoy the romances in games/books/movies; however, there usually isn't a whole lot of depth in the ones I've come across. I can supply the depth in my own mind to make it seem less ... shallow, and this goes for movies, books, and games. In the limited time you have to meet and develop the characters involved, there just isn't time in most cases to provide enough background and interaction to make the base relationship seem plausible. I supply the depth if I get the sense that the characters have been in close proximity to one another long enough, with enough affinity (or enough shared life and death situations), to have developed that deeper, more realistic bond.

Wow, I thought I was the only one doing that more or less actively.
(I say actively because I believe we do that on a sub-conscious level anyway)

[Varenus Luckmann]

KingSarevok wrote...

The romances are going to be an integral part of the Dragon Age experience for me, just like in BG2, KOTOR, Mass Effect and Jade Empire.

However, I heard some people saying around here that they were really trying to stay away from romancing a party member as much as possible. Why?

Is it for role-playing reasons? Is it because you find these romances too "cheesy"?

[...]

It's quite simply because there's no romance to fit elves. Or dwarves. On average, of course. The world is filled to the brim with deviants. My character isn't one of them.

[Korva]

There are several reasons:

1) I'm not much into "romances" in general. Give me strong platonic bonds any day over the kissy-kissy goo.
2) I'm a gay woman. Not many games actually offer a F/F relationship, and I'm not interested as playing my characters straight, or male.
3) Many "romances" in games feel silly, tacked-on, rushed or forced. Or all of these.
4) In order to even consider it, I have to at least be able to tolerate the NPC OOC, and she has to suit a given character of mine IC. I never make a character with the purpose of being compatible with certain NPCs, instead I choose those party members who suit my character (in a romantic or platonic way).

One of my two planned human characters may end up with Leliana, we will see. The dwarf and the elf would never bed a non-dwarf or non-elf, respectively. I just don't like cross-species relationships as a rule, it can too easily lead to "humans in funny suits" syndrome if everyone humps everyone no matter what species.

Modifié par Korva, 02 novembre 2009 - 07:22 .

[Saurel]

KingSarevok wrote...

For me, I think the romances in the previous Bioware games were very un-life-like, so I can understand where you're coming from when you say "They're too cheesy for me". However, don't ask me why, but I think that's exactly one of the facts why they fascinate me so much.

Basically this, Bio romances just tend to rub me the wrong way. Also the characters hold very little interest for me in the romance department .

Modifié par Saurel, 02 novembre 2009 - 07:25 .