I had an imported ME1/ME2 character and every paragon/renegade option was available to me throughout the game even though I was strictly paragon in my choices throughout 1/2. I was able get the Geth and Quarians to work things out and Tali lived without having to use an interrupt (paragon dialogue charm was used though).
Morality for Quarian/Geth peace
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#27
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 11:01
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Hurricanedj wrote...
This is what i want, but cant get the desired outcome. I either lose them both, or Tali stabs Legion in the back and i shoot him... HELP lol
What reputation do you have? How much?
What did you do in ME2 regarding Tali/Legion?
What did you do in ME3?
#28
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 07:14
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Tali/Legion conflict never came for me in ME2. It happened to work out to where my crew got abducted when that sequence was supposed to take place...
#29
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 07:21
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Well I managed to solve the conflict I had 4 full bars and about another third for paragon.
So I think you just need a REALLY high paragon/renegade.
So I think you just need a REALLY high paragon/renegade.
#30
Posté 08 mars 2012 - 07:23
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The crew don't get abducted until you try accessing the map. The conflict occurs automatically after the loyalty mission ends.Clippersfan wrote...
Tali/Legion conflict never came for me in ME2. It happened to work out to where my crew got abducted when that sequence was supposed to take place...
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Posté 08 mars 2012 - 07:28
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Taleroth wrote...
The crew don't get abducted until you try accessing the map. The conflict occurs automatically after the loyalty mission ends.Clippersfan wrote...
Tali/Legion conflict never came for me in ME2. It happened to work out to where my crew got abducted when that sequence was supposed to take place...
Hmm... Maybe I solved it and forgot. It's just weird I didn't get option to make peace considering I had a lot of paragon+renegade AND a full reputation bar. Not sure what happened...
#32
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 04:10
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Just so you guys know, there are TWO requirements to make peace between the Geth and Quarians.
The first, as you have obviously figured out is your reputation (paragon/renegade) bar.
The second is a tally of "Peace Points" from various Quarian/Geth missions throughout ME2+3. The situations where you receive "Peace Points" are the following:
ME2:
Legion's Loyalty Mission: Rewrite = 0 / Destroy = 2
Tali's Loyalty Mission: Exile = 0 / Innocence = 2
Legion/Tali Argument: Siding with someone = 0 / Moderating argument through reputation interrupt = 1
ME3:
Saving the Admiral = 1
Shutting down the Geth Fighters = 1
The total of points you can receive is 7. I know for a fact that peace can be achieved through a paragon interrupt with only 5 points (following a pure paragon path in ME2/3). It seems natural to assume that achieving peace through a renegade interrupt would require all 7 points. (Needs confirmation)
Notes:
Recommending peace/war in ME2 may or may not have bearing on things, but I can't say whether it matters for certain.
Legion will die regardless, either through actual death or by sacrifice.
The strength of Geth/Quarian fleets once recruited is affected by choices in ME2. Geth are stronger if the heretics are rewritten, but I believe quarians are thereby weaker. Quarians may be stronger with destroyed heretics and therefore the geth are weaker.
The first, as you have obviously figured out is your reputation (paragon/renegade) bar.
The second is a tally of "Peace Points" from various Quarian/Geth missions throughout ME2+3. The situations where you receive "Peace Points" are the following:
ME2:
Legion's Loyalty Mission: Rewrite = 0 / Destroy = 2
Tali's Loyalty Mission: Exile = 0 / Innocence = 2
Legion/Tali Argument: Siding with someone = 0 / Moderating argument through reputation interrupt = 1
ME3:
Saving the Admiral = 1
Shutting down the Geth Fighters = 1
The total of points you can receive is 7. I know for a fact that peace can be achieved through a paragon interrupt with only 5 points (following a pure paragon path in ME2/3). It seems natural to assume that achieving peace through a renegade interrupt would require all 7 points. (Needs confirmation)
Notes:
Recommending peace/war in ME2 may or may not have bearing on things, but I can't say whether it matters for certain.
Legion will die regardless, either through actual death or by sacrifice.
The strength of Geth/Quarian fleets once recruited is affected by choices in ME2. Geth are stronger if the heretics are rewritten, but I believe quarians are thereby weaker. Quarians may be stronger with destroyed heretics and therefore the geth are weaker.
Modifié par NSGM, 10 mars 2012 - 04:20 .
#33
Posté 12 mars 2012 - 12:29
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do you know how could this be done via new save editor? just need to make the shutting down the geth fighters checked or abort mission i am doing and do that mission
#34
Posté 12 mars 2012 - 05:35
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Bleh. Just played through Rannoch 3 times now (no upload, upload, no upload) and cannot make peace. I've got a full rep bar of paragon and 1.5 bars of renegade, I've got both "peace points" from ME3, and am pretty sure I picked up all 5 points from ME2.
Where is the choice made - during the post-reaper scene? Does the fact that I punched the heavy fleet admiral affect anything perhaps?
Where is the choice made - during the post-reaper scene? Does the fact that I punched the heavy fleet admiral affect anything perhaps?
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Posté 13 mars 2012 - 11:48
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Okay guys... redoing ME2 playthrough and something happened. I couldn't resolve Tali/Legion conflict with renegade or paragon despite having 4 bars of Renegade! So now what? Am I screwed from making peace in second game? I took sides with Legion.
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Posté 13 mars 2012 - 11:57
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Tali has two options to make peace with her... but they are greyed out. One Paragon option for example says "We need Legion". What kind of ridiculous renegade/paragon score do I need!?
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:02
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You need to make sure you do the two other missions on the planet before you destroy the signal. You also need to make sure you save the admiral that crash landed, you have to sacrifice his crew to save him.
#39
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 12:06
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I went to that decision with my Paragon bar almost complete... if you work on side missions between priority ones, and go and talk with as many people as possible, you should not have problems having enough reputation...
#40
Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:22
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Hexxys wrote...
justferlaughs wrote...
I'm confused. I have full paragon and the option won't appear....am I doing something wrong?
Most likely you didn't have the proper pre-requisites in your game for the options to exist. The charm/intimidate options have a very small window of opportunity to appear. You must have had Legion in ME2, done its loyalty mission, preferably destroyed the heretics (although not absolutely necessary) in ME2, solved the Tali/Legion fight using the charm/intimidate option in ME2, etc. It's a point system, and each of those actions are worth a certain number of points. There's a certain thresholde you need to cross point-wise before the options appear. There are point value lists and tutorials on what to do all over, just google "geth quarian peace" or something of the like.
Actually, I figured out what I did wrong....I forgot to do the geth fighter base mission first *facepalm*. I went back to an earlier save, did that mission, and wouldn't ya know it, that got the renegade/paragon options to show up. Thanks for the reply anyway/
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Posté 20 mars 2012 - 03:58
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There is a ME2 save maker on the internet that can crate or change ME2 save. So i think you can gain needed pre-requisites without replaying ME2.
#42
Posté 22 mars 2012 - 03:46
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Clippersfan wrote...
Tali has two options to make peace with her... but they are greyed out. One Paragon option for example says "We need Legion". What kind of ridiculous renegade/paragon score do I need!?
Are you playing paragon or renegade? Either way you need high scores in each. For Paragon, you should get the option during the argument. For renegade you need to side with Tali. Then talk to legion immediately afterwards and as you explain what you did, there will be a renegade option in the dialogue.
