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[brunomalta]

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Every time the game gave me something to do I did it. I guess you could play the game on insane and drag out the fights.

If you dont talk to anyone or even stop and listen what people are saying, I guess you dont get many side quests. Just waiting for the game to give you something to do? You are prolly one of those players who need hand holding through a game because you cannot search, explore and find out stuff for yourself?

Yeah, Insanity does make fights more lengthy and a hell more intense and challenging. But if you want to RP a real hero that is the way to do it. Pain heals, chick dig scars and glory lasts forever. There is no glory in lower difficulties! But the worst thing you can do is to rush through a wonderful game like this.

Did you even find your Shepard VI to talk to? I would bet you did not.

Mass Effect 3 - The Real Shepard HD

No i did not go and look for every single side quest. But every time if the game gave me something to do I did it. Like I said the game plays very much like a FPS and not a RPG. Every time I went to a new planet, it felt like a new FPS level and not a rpg map.

You can not explore anything the game leads you on a pre detrim path and you get waves of mobs until the time limit is reached. Just like a FPS!

Now if you want to talk about real RPG's. I put over 800hrs into Oblivion, I dont think may people can say that. 

You cannot explore? Really? I gave up....you did not played the same game as i did.

[HiddenKING]

If you approach Mass Effect as an RPG, you'll undoubtedly be dissapointed. It's never been an RPG, from the beginning it's been an Action-RPG, that doesn't fit conventional RPG mechanics. And have ever played Call of Duty? I feel a lot of detractors reference it, but I don't understand how havin improved gameplay on a third person shooter is at all relevant to a first person shooter such as Call of Duty. Givin gameplay a 7 because it feels like a FPS (which it isn't) instead of an RPG (which it isn't) is laughable. It's an Action game with an story hence the Action-RPG. And Shepard doesn't really know what's goin on So why should you as the player know?

[graciegrace]

laststarfighter wrote...

brunomalta wrote...

You lost me on ME 1 was outstanding. Let´s face it. It wasn´t. It was good but had a LOT of problems.

ME1 is the best in the series.

[Elegana]

Everything is spectacular... except the story. Paradoxes, unanswered questions, and not much ending variation.

[dw99027]

I 'finished' Skyrim in 8 hours.

Other than that, appreciate the impressions, OP. Glad to see us old timers are still kicking...

[Soulwatcher1974]

brunomalta wrote...

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Every time the game gave me something to do I did it. I guess you could play the game on insane and drag out the fights.

If you dont talk to anyone or even stop and listen what people are saying, I guess you dont get many side quests. Just waiting for the game to give you something to do? You are prolly one of those players who need hand holding through a game because you cannot search, explore and find out stuff for yourself?

Yeah, Insanity does make fights more lengthy and a hell more intense and challenging. But if you want to RP a real hero that is the way to do it. Pain heals, chick dig scars and glory lasts forever. There is no glory in lower difficulties! But the worst thing you can do is to rush through a wonderful game like this.

Did you even find your Shepard VI to talk to? I would bet you did not.

Mass Effect 3 - The Real Shepard HD

No i did not go and look for every single side quest. But every time if the game gave me something to do I did it. Like I said the game plays very much like a FPS and not a RPG. Every time I went to a new planet, it felt like a new FPS level and not a rpg map.

You can not explore anything the game leads you on a pre detrim path and you get waves of mobs until the time limit is reached. Just like a FPS!

Now if you want to talk about real RPG's. I put over 800hrs into Oblivion, I dont think may people can say that. 

You cannot explore? Really? I gave up....you did not played the same game as i did.

Did you even comprehend what I said? Sure you can pick what planet you want to go to. But after that its a set path, you ONLY can go one way. Every once and a blue moon the game tosses in a room for you to explore. But after that its a set path with waves of mobs until the time limit is reached. Just like COD!

[Domdeegrpgc]

FPS.

You keep using that term. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[Ragtag]

This review is... well...
Reviewer obviously didn't explore as a true RPG'er would and secondly, If ME3 has some of the best gfx he ever seen on PC there's either something very wrong with my rig or he played nothing else than Zelda since 1984. Sorry dude, but you should be ashamed of yourself calling you a hardcore RPG fan 

I logged 15 hours so far in the PC version and i'm probably not half way yet. You can more or less do everything you could in ME2++. Some good changes has been done imho and i'm loving the story so far. Some pretty intense, epic battles and the best is yet to come probably

Modifié par Ragtag, 07 mars 2012 - 03:19 .

[AlphaJarmel]

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

I would rate the graphics at a 10, the game has some of the best graphics that I have ever seen on PC

Lol what?

[cipher86]

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...
Over all it took me 13hrs to finish the game and I think its safe to say that Bioware are no longer the Great RPG makers they use to be. Until (if ever) they break away from EA, dont expect too much from Bioware!

Greg

No wonder you don't like it, you sped through the best part of the game - the STORY.  I loved ME1 but when I hit space through all the dialogue on follow-up playthroughs guess what?  I got bored because the game sucked.  It's like hooking yourself up to a caffeine IV and saying it has no flavor.  No **** Sherlock.

[Soulwatcher1974]

Domdeegrpgc wrote...

FPS.

You keep using that term. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Sure I do first person shoother or in the case of ME third person shooter!

[Comsky159]

The way choices carried over into the game was more than enough compensation to keep me enthralled and immersed. I was orginally worried about dialogue being trimmed down prior to playing the game but having experienced it I feel they struck a perfect balance. Ultimately this time the game went unabashed for quality over quantity and by God it worked.

[brunomalta]

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

brunomalta wrote...

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Every time the game gave me something to do I did it. I guess you could play the game on insane and drag out the fights.

If you dont talk to anyone or even stop and listen what people are saying, I guess you dont get many side quests. Just waiting for the game to give you something to do? You are prolly one of those players who need hand holding through a game because you cannot search, explore and find out stuff for yourself?

Yeah, Insanity does make fights more lengthy and a hell more intense and challenging. But if you want to RP a real hero that is the way to do it. Pain heals, chick dig scars and glory lasts forever. There is no glory in lower difficulties! But the worst thing you can do is to rush through a wonderful game like this.

Did you even find your Shepard VI to talk to? I would bet you did not.

Mass Effect 3 - The Real Shepard HD

No i did not go and look for every single side quest. But every time if the game gave me something to do I did it. Like I said the game plays very much like a FPS and not a RPG. Every time I went to a new planet, it felt like a new FPS level and not a rpg map.

You can not explore anything the game leads you on a pre detrim path and you get waves of mobs until the time limit is reached. Just like a FPS!

Now if you want to talk about real RPG's. I put over 800hrs into Oblivion, I dont think may people can say that. 

You cannot explore? Really? I gave up....you did not played the same game as i did.

Did you even comprehend what I said? Sure you can pick what planet you want to go to. But after that its a set path, you ONLY can go one way. Every once and a blue moon the game tosses in a room for you to explore. But after that its a set path with waves of mobs until the time limit is reached. Just like COD!

I did...and you yourself said that you didn´t get all the side missions, hence, you didn´t explore....you are complaying on something that you didn´t even try since you did not get all of them.

Well..i will stop here. Things are heating up a bit and i don´t think that we will agree on these things. Anyway...thanks for your impressions

Modifié par brunomalta, 07 mars 2012 - 03:18 .

[Obadiah]

Agreed with the OP. I can play ME1 over and over again, but I can't seem to finish a 2nd playthrough of ME2 where Ashley survives. ME3 (only gotten past first couple of missions), though entertaining seems like it is mostly on rails.

At this point, I'm no longer roleplaying, I just controlling some other dude sorta.

I heard one of the devs say Mass Effect was supposed ot be an RPG for the Call of Duty crowd. ME3 seems pretty much like that.

Modifié par Obadiah, 07 mars 2012 - 03:22 .

[Soulwatcher1974]

Ragtag wrote...

This review is... well...
Reviewer obviously didn't explore as a true RPG'er would and secondly, If ME3 has some of the best gfx he ever seen on PC there's either something very wrong with my rig (I7 3930K and GTX580) or he played nothing else than Zelda since 1984. Sorry dude

I logged 15 hours so far in the PC version and i'm probably not half way yet. You can more or less do everything you could in ME2++. Some good changes has been done imho and i'm loving the story so far. Some pretty intense, epic battles and the best is yet to come probably

 I have over 80 PC games, guess I havent played much. Sure if you want to go explore every single planet that has nothing to do with the main story of the game. Then I guess you could be lost in space. But as I stated every new planet is just a new FPS level, there are no RPG elements to the planets. And that makes them pointless to explore.

Modifié par Soulwatcher1974, 07 mars 2012 - 03:22 .

[ODST 3]

I guess this is the gathering place for those who can't adapt or enjoy things that are different, huh? You're only hurting yourselves by not being more open to change and insisting on classifying a game into a certain genre in which it must meet all criteria associated with that genre or be deemed a failure. I loved ME 1, 2, and 3... so who ends up better off?

[duckofyork]

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Every time the game gave me something to do I did it. I guess you could play the game on insane and drag out the fights.

This right here tells me everything I need to know about your review.  I am 13 hours in exactly, I was just bassically told strait up by Hacket that im 50% done with the priority missions and I have done 3 or 4 side quests.  My codex is bogged down in about 10 or 11 missions right now as well.  

I am not lolly gagging, I am playing on normal, I have died only once (as in the missions are not taking me an inordinate amount of time to complete).  Unless you talked to no one, and ONLY did priority missions (ie utilized a very small portion of what the game is) I call bullcrap on the "honest" part of your review.

[Pathero]

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Did you even comprehend what I said? Sure you can pick what planet you want to go to. But after that its a set path, you ONLY can go one way. Every once and a blue moon the game tosses in a room for you to explore. But after that its a set path with waves of mobs until the time limit is reached. Just like COD!

I recently played through ME2 and it struck me that this was a major issue there too, I need to buy a new copy of ME 1 to check the effect, but I'd say the combat has improved in ME3.  In ME2 It was the funnel of death.  You walked into a room and 180° from your entry point was where the enemies would funnel in.  ME3 (at least the demo) they seemed to have gotten round that by at least having them come from different directions.  I found that this at least helped to make it seem like there was a queue of bad guys waiting to get capped.

Interesting points, well put.


What kind of RPG's did you paly?  Zelda style/Final Fantasy/Pen and Paper or a mix of both?

With regards to the story and confusion was it deliberate confusion from a writing perspective or was the writing a bit loose and could have done with being for explicit?

Thanks for the review.  These are really helping people like me, unlike hte foam and spittle rage reviews that are bombing around/.

[furryrage59]

brunomalta wrote...

You lost me on ME 1 was outstanding. Let´s face it. It wasn´t. It was good but had a LOT of problems.

Me1 was a fantastic experience, maybe not to you but certainly to a great many people.

[Soulwatcher1974]

duckofyork wrote...

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Every time the game gave me something to do I did it. I guess you could play the game on insane and drag out the fights.

This right here tells me everything I need to know about your review.  I am 13 hours in exactly, I was just bassically told strait up by Hacket that im 50% done with the priority missions and I have done 3 or 4 side quests.  My codex is bogged down in about 10 or 11 missions right now as well.  

I am not lolly gagging, I am playing on normal, I have died only once (as in the missions are not taking me an inordinate amount of time to complete).  Unless you talked to no one, and ONLY did priority missions (ie utilized a very small portion of what the game is) I call bullcrap on the "honest" part of your review.

I obviously completed the main story because I beat the game. I did state that I did every single quest the game gave me. But I did not stop and talk to every single person to see if they had a quest to do. 

And you can hardly call them quests, they send you to a planet and then you shoot your way from one side of the map to the other on a pre detrime path which you can not vary from. As I stated many times in this thread they are FPS levels because there is no rpg exploration.

[jds1bio]

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

 I have over 80 PC games, guess I havent played much. Sure if you want to go explore every single planet that has nothing to do with the main story of the game. Then I guess you could be lost in space. But as I stated every new planet is just a new FPS level, there are no RPG elements to the planets. And that makes them pointless to explore.

Yeah it's wave combat, but it's not a FPS.  I see a bunch of Uncharted 2 things made it into this game.  This game does a better job of keeping you moving around than the last one.

I'm 8 1/2 hours in and my inbox is stuffed with requests and things to do, there's no way I will match your speed run prowess.  All the planets and sidequests have to do with the main story of the game, in that they promote your readiness and have callbacks to your current and prior adventures.  I doubt that qualifies as "pointless" and "lost in space", but if it does for you, then you should ask for your money back.

Modifié par jds1bio, 07 mars 2012 - 03:35 .

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

ODST 3 wrote...
I guess this is the gathering place for those who can't adapt or enjoy things that are different, huh? You're only hurting yourselves by not being more open to change and insisting on classifying a game into a certain genre in which it must meet all criteria associated with that genre or be deemed a failure. I loved ME 1, 2, and 3... so who ends up better off?

Problems with changes is not changes themselves, but taking back what you like. If many people disliked ME2, it's because things which they liked disappears, and things added were not good enough to compensate. ME3 will be the same (well worst for me, as ME2 mainly changed the gameplay, were ME3 doesn't seems to let the player choose Shepard's choices anymore).

[cljqnsnyc]

WOW!! ...and to think I was very excited about this game a month ago! I had it pre-ordered but decided to cancel after the demo...didn't like...to take a wait and see approach. Now that the game has landed, I'm reading the same sort of divisiveness seen with DA2...definitely a very bad sign!

It's true that everyone has their own opinion and no game can satisfy everyone......but this talk of autopilot dialogue, lousy endings, etc, etc, is hard to ignore. I really loved the series and to have it ruined would be a crime to me. I think I'll skip ME3 and leave my ME experience intact. A repeat of DA2 is something I will do everything to avoid. Sooo sad to have such a great series end this way. Prefer not to chance things now..after DA2 and TOR being disappointments. Hard to believe this is the state of things.

Oh well...at least I still have ES5 and the FO series. So sad!!

[Soulwatcher1974]

Pathero wrote...

Soulwatcher1974 wrote...

Did you even comprehend what I said? Sure you can pick what planet you want to go to. But after that its a set path, you ONLY can go one way. Every once and a blue moon the game tosses in a room for you to explore. But after that its a set path with waves of mobs until the time limit is reached. Just like COD!

I recently played through ME2 and it struck me that this was a major issue there too, I need to buy a new copy of ME 1 to check the effect, but I'd say the combat has improved in ME3.  In ME2 It was the funnel of death.  You walked into a room and 180° from your entry point was where the enemies would funnel in.  ME3 (at least the demo) they seemed to have gotten round that by at least having them come from different directions.  I found that this at least helped to make it seem like there was a queue of bad guys waiting to get capped.

Interesting points, well put.


What kind of RPG's did you paly?  Zelda style/Final Fantasy/Pen and Paper or a mix of both?

With regards to the story and confusion was it deliberate confusion from a writing perspective or was the writing a bit loose and could have done with being for explicit?

Thanks for the review.  These are really helping people like me, unlike hte foam and spittle rage reviews that are bombing around/.

I felt like the plot left you doing a lot of wondering, maybe they did it on pourpose. But I would have rather seen things come to gether over the course of the main story. Instead of everything coming together the last hour of the game.

[Itkovian]

In this forum, one must remember, is that when someone says that a review is "honest and fair", it usually means "I agree with this review."

Reviews are subjectives... and without actual evidence for honesty and fairness, they're subjective too.

Itkovian